Since the number of Stupid Articles has

[silverbear]

I betcha BrainPaint would throw a vote my way on this. When I get wound up I hurt his eyes there's so much to read. He's accused me of occular assault more than once.

You're closing in on 25k posts, I haven't seen 4k yet...

And I'd still bet you that I've burned more bandwidth than you have... ROTFLMAO...

I've had to embrace thefact that on occasion my posting style is a reflection of my username.

So now we know the origin of THAT nom de plume...

 

[burmafrd]

If someone is interested - REALLY interested- its very easy to find out. Unless you are lazy and want others to do the work.

 

[WoodysGirl]

If someone is interested - REALLY interested- its very easy to find out. Unless you are lazy and want others to do the work.

You You not only come here for discussion but the latest 'Boys news as well, correct? I'm sure this is maybe one of many stops you may take to find 'Boys news. However, I'm sure this is tops on your list when searching for 'Boys news, correct? The Zone is a resource for ALL Cowboys information, as well as messageboard discussion.

There are any number of sites on the Internet a person can go to find information on any number of subjects. The good and the bad. A person can go elsewhere to find information on the Cowboys, the current, as well as the historic, but then you end up missing out on some great personal reflections of your favorite Cowboy, whoever it may be. It doesn't mean the Zone is the person's last stop for information, but it's not a bad place to start.

Just my thoughts.

 

[burmafrd]

GO right to the DC home page and start there. OR any one of a number of pro football sites. OR NFL.COM OR the HALL OF FAME. Do your basic background FIRST then go to sites like this. YOU DO NOT START here. Or you end up looking dumb or lazy.
Put it this way. You do not TALK to experts untill you have at least a base of information. Or you look stupid.

 

[WoodysGirl]

GO right to the DC home page and start there. OR any one of a number of pro football sites. OR NFL.COM OR the HALL OF FAME. Do your basic background FIRST then go to sites like this. YOU DO NOT START here. Or you end up looking dumb or lazy.
Put it this way. You do not TALK to experts untill you have at least a base of information. Or you look stupid.

I don't see why a person shouldn't...Research can start anywhere. There's nothing that says, start here for info on the Cowboys. You go to any search engine, type Dallas Cowboys, you're prolly gonna get a million hits and you're not gonna know where to start. The Zone is as good a place to start as any. That's why we have a History Zone.

There are many folks come here for info. Would you be so hard core if a person phrases their question a different way? Such as, "Hey guys do you know of a good site I can find some info on Player A?" or how about "I'm looking for info on Player B, what site do you recommend?"

The problem when being so locked into a position is that certain behavior is demonstrated over and over and nobody says a word. I don't think you realize how many times, people come here first seeking just basic information that's been posted, discussed, moved out of the main forum and archived. A person asks a question about a player, albeit one of the highest profiled Cowboys ever, and people jump all over him. I just find it hypocritical, actually. Not speaking about you directly, it's just something I've observed during my time on the Zone...

 

[iceberg]

There is no excuse for anyone with a computer and access, which clearly anyone who comes here has, NOT finding out about the Cowboys history if they are REALLY interested. I don't care about the casual fan who is lazy.

they're on the computer.
this group *IS* on the internet.

if wanna do research on a topic, going to newsgroups about that topic would seem to be a good place to start. as it sounds, you're trying to make this a private club that only people who've obtained "knowledge" may post.

i think it's safe to say most will disagree with this assesment. they can start here just as much as anywhere else. unless of course i missed a memo that says "to do research on a topic you must start here, then here, then here..."

just wild man.

 

[scottsp]

The Zone, to me, is a great place on the net to get/share info and just yap about our beloved Cowboys. Even before we moved from the other spot, it wasn't that testy, IMO. Even the so-called potbangers here are relatively tame. That's not to say you guys aren't passionate. Lord knows that's not true. Just not so confrontational. And that's ok.

Hey, I'm not a fan of fluff nor am I someone who lives by the rant. But I do prefer balance. I'm not asking anyone to remove their blue-colored glasses. Just glance over the frames once in a while.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Do your basic background FIRST then go to sites like this. YOU DO NOT START here. Or you end up looking dumb or lazy.
Put it this way. You do not TALK to experts untill you have at least a base of information. Or you look stupid.

dude, instead of lambasting people for coming on here asking important questions, you should try to help them, not make them feel bad about themselves, and besides, a few of the old heads, most noticeably cbz, said bringing up the memory of Bob Lilly is their chance to shine, and I think everyone benefits, you need to chill out man because even though you may have your history down pat, you're arguments on the present situation of the Cowboys leaves alot to be desired

 

[jackrussell]

GO right to the DC home page and start there. OR any one of a number of pro football sites. OR NFL.COM OR the HALL OF FAME. Do your basic background FIRST then go to sites like this. YOU DO NOT START here. Or you end up looking dumb or lazy.
Put it this way. You do not TALK to experts untill you have at least a base of information. Or you look stupid.

And the winner of our 'Most Self Righteous Condescending Uppity Poster' is..........

 

[burmafrd]

Take a hike- like I care what you think. I was just making the point that the kid will get flamed when such a question is asked. I want to argue and talk and debate with people that are knowledgable- NOT NEWBIES. I do not have the patience to lead someone by the hand. And I will put my analysis of the Boys up against YOURS anytime anywhere.

 

[burmafrd]

If you guys are uncomfortable not being nice that is your problem. I notice you seem to be unwilling to call out those that post on this board that act a lot worse then anything I have posted. Untill you have the stones to call a spade a spade take a hike.

 

[jackrussell]

Take a hike- like I care what you think. I was just making the point that the kid will get flamed when such a question is asked. I want to argue and talk and debate with people that are knowledgable- NOT NEWBIES. I do not have the patience to lead someone by the hand. And I will put my analysis of the Boys up against YOURS anytime anywhere.

EDIT- The winner of the 'Most Self Righteous Condescending Uppity Self Proclaimed Top Knowledgable Analyst Poster' is..................

 

[lspain1]

I avoided posting in this thread because the 'tone' was a bit too negative even though I am often critical of the media articles that we see here. But I really want to summarize my views because.....well......because I do

So many media products contain a brand of knee jerk skepticism (or cynicism) that seems so popular these days. The media in general are all trying to 'create' stories if one doesn't run up and bite 'em on the posterior. They often do the 'create controversy' thing in lieu of background work and the other things that make a story (like good writing), controversial or not. Mickey Spagnola has mentioned a 'pack mentality' in the media where they all concentrate on the same thing for fear of missing something. In that career field, it seems better to write about the same 'might happen' event rather than search for something different.

The national media has little excuse because the Cowboys are such a high profile team and the local media has no excuse at all. I often hear that we 'serious fans' do not represent the public at large and the average joe is not particularly interested in details in the regular season much less the off-season (How bout them Mavericks....or Stars.......or Rangers?). The average joe knows TO is controversial and that's about it so let's just write about him or that Parcells is fighting with Jones....ad nauseum. That attitude is wrong at best and insulting at worst.

There are varying levels of fan interest in all sports but that doesn't mean you write to the lowest common denominator. You write to the the most knowledgable and let the less interested fan pick up stuff from that material as they may.

Here's a novel idea for the media. Take a whole season and do honest analysis while avoiding the 'skeptical view' except where on field performance justifies it. Now I understand the whole fourth estate thing, but it seems to me it would be refreshing to do analysis without conjecture on how soon TO will fall on his upper lip or whether Parcells and Jones are speaking to each other.

OK, I've rehashed some of my views. I feel much better now. We can return to the previously scheduled personal attacks already in progress.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I want to argue and talk and debate with people that are knowledgable- NOT NEWBIES.

well fortunately for us, you don't make the rules, so putting down guidelines on who you interact with means squat, we really don't care

I do not have the patience to lead someone by the hand.

noone is asking you to, but it would be alot better than acting like a self-righteous prick

And I will put my analysis of the Boys up against YOURS anytime anywhere.

stick to analysing Al Johnson's weight :laugh2:

 

[BigDFan5]

I'm just a Cowboy fan looking for common sense in conversations.

I don't like threads which
- bash other team's Pro Bowl players,
- bash former Cowboy players who are no longer on the Cowboys,
- hail Jerry Jones/Bill Parcells as the end all,
- never question the Organization
- give A++ ratings to our mediocre draft
- compare low round Cowboy draft picks with other teams Pro Bowlers
- endlessly complain about the Commanders

These are simply my pet peeves.

Eddie

You forgot to add anything good being said about the Cowboys

 

[BigDFan5]

I once won the most argumentative poster award on a forum

heh I nominated you over there.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

heh I nominated you over there.

I knew you probably did, but we never really got into many arguments

 

[BigDFan5]

yawn - truth to you doesn't make it truth universal. and just because we disagree doesn't make "me" the mindless one.

Our strength of schedule was ranked #32 Easiest in the league

It featured

5-11 Atlanta
4-12 Giants twice
6-10 Jets
4-12 Cardinals
5-11 Lions
7-9 Bucaneers
5-11 Commanders twice
6-10 Bills

We went 8-2 against these teams

8-8 Saints
11-5 Carolina
14-2 Patriots
12-4 Eagles twice
10-6 Dolphins

Against these teams we were 2-4

 

[BigDFan5]

I knew you probably did, but we never really got into many arguments

I dont think we argued at all, but I didnt nominate you for arguing with me lol

 

[JackMagist]

Take a hike- like I care what you think. I was just making the point that the kid will get flamed when such a question is asked. I want to argue and talk and debate with people that are knowledgable- NOT NEWBIES. I do not have the patience to lead someone by the hand. And I will put my analysis of the Boys up against YOURS anytime anywhere.

Then I suggest you just move on to the next thread and leave the Newbie's thread to those who do have the patience. Nobody forces you to read them or respond to them. Sometimes I find it fun to lead a new fan through a bit of the annals of Cowboys History and thereby relive it a bit myself.