Skins are SB Bound... Havent u heard?

[DallasEast]

Oh, I know, and I really hope you're right. My gripe is all the chopping behind the knees that they do between the tackles. You can't hit a QB below the knees, but you can design a whole offensive system around doing it to offensive linemen.

I understand exactly where you are coming from (and you are correct) because the rule states:

Clipping: Throwing the body across the back of an opponent’s leg or hitting him from the back below the waist while moving up from behind unless the opponent is a runner or the action is in close line play. - http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/definitions

As long as the offensive linemen attempt to do so around the line of scrimmage, it's not necessarily going to be called and THAT's why Shanahan's zone blocking scheme works as well as it does between the tackles. So it is not going to get called even with the umpire taking up his position in the offensive backfield now. However, on off-tackle runs and especially run sweeps, I think you will see some of those runs being called back more often than not beginning this season.

 

[tomson75]

It's still August. This should come as no surprise to anyone.

 

[bigE79]

:damn:...rinse wash repeat ...yada yada yada...morons

 

[cobra]

Every year the idiot Commanders fans think they are going to the Super Bowl. Every year, the idiot Commanders fans acted all confused when they end being the doormats.

This year is no different. Oh, the morons who support the Commanders will tell you that it's different this year. But it's not.

Yes, McNabb is better than Campbell, but he is still the same QB who has lost to us 2 times in a row. And Andy Reid's offense >>>> Mike Shanahan's offense. So you've already seen the best you will ever seen from McNabb, and he is not enough by himself.

The bigger problem is the Commanders defense. Because Snyder spends his entire life trying to copy Jerry Jones, he wanted a 3-4 this year. Only problem: they don't have the personnel or the coach for it.

Haslett is not a 3-4 coach. Moreover, Haslett is a below average defensive coach. History shows that Haslett's teams struggle on defense.

So players who don't fit a 3-4 (except for Orakpo) are being taught how to play the 3-4 by a coach who doesn't coach it and who isn't a good defensive coach anyway. Sounds like the recipe for success, eh?

In reality, the idiot Commanders fans will scream about how they are Super Bowl bound with their 2003 roster, and yet, once teams figure out what they are doing in DC, it will be abused as always.

There's a reason why history shows that the Commanders are (at least our) doormats. They're the Commanders. They stink.

The only thing that will change that is if there is a lockout next year--that's the only chance the Commanders ever have to win anything.

 

[Joe Realist]

The Skins do not worry me (except the first game). The Eagles will be better and will challenge the Cowboys for the NFC East. The Giants will contend, yet the Boy's owe them from last year's sweep.

 

[Mansta54]

Every year the idiot Commanders fans think they are going to the Super Bowl. Every year, the idiot Commanders fans acted all confused when they end being the doormats.

This year is no different. Oh, the morons who support the Commanders will tell you that it's different this year. But it's not.

Yes, McNabb is better than Campbell, but he is still the same QB who has lost to us 2 times in a row. And Andy Reid's offense >>>> Mike Shanahan's offense. So you've already seen the best you will ever seen from McNabb, and he is not enough by himself.

The bigger problem is the Commanders defense. Because Snyder spends his entire life trying to copy Jerry Jones, he wanted a 3-4 this year. Only problem: they don't have the personnel or the coach for it.

Haslett is not a 3-4 coach. Moreover, Haslett is a below average defensive coach. History shows that Haslett's teams struggle on defense.

So players who don't fit a 3-4 (except for Orakpo) are being taught how to play the 3-4 by a coach who doesn't coach it and who isn't a good defensive coach anyway. Sounds like the recipe for success, eh?

In reality, the idiot Commanders fans will scream about how they are Super Bowl bound with their 2003 roster, and yet, once teams figure out what they are doing in DC, it will be abused as always.

There's a reason why history shows that the Commanders are (at least our) doormats. They're the Commanders. They stink.

The only thing that will change that is if there is a lockout next year--that's the only chance the Commanders ever have to win anything.

Well said and on point!!!

 

[Section446]

I don't know about Super Bowl bound, but they are certainly going to be a lot better team this year. I imagine they'll beat us at least once this season.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I have no doubt that Shanahan's OL get away with a lot of cheap shots, but the real problem is, the cutting and knee-targeting they do isn'tt illegal.

isn't it illegal if the guy is engaged high and another goes for the legs?

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I’m not that impressed with Snyder as a businessman. He’s had more failures in business than success and runs most of his businesses like he runs his football team, he keeps borrowing money for today with a promise to pay it tomorrow. Six Flags was an unmitigated failure, so was Johnny Rockets and others.

He got the Commanders ownership by leveraging himself to the tilt. The good news for him is that the Skins faithful are indeed faithful and continue to sell out FedEx, despite it being a lousy NFL stadium.

Snyder comes from ‘new money’, much like Mark Cuban. Cuban was in the computer and internet industries where the companies need to come out with ‘new products’ even if they are not exactly new (they may just tweak it a tad or give it a different name) or even better. But the perception of the buying public is that ‘new’ = good. Snyder didn’t come from the same industries as Cuban, but he’s a young NFL owner and he has the same mentality of ‘new’ = good. And each year the Commanders faithful and the Commanders fanboys in the local DC media buy into hook, line and sinker.

Zorn was woefully incompetent and couldn’t make their offense work, so they brought in Shanahan, a well known offensive minded coach. Blache has a better defensive track record than Haslett, but Haslett likes to blitz and that was the issue the fans had with Blache, but blitzing more doesn’t equate to success and if you’re not good at it, it will equate to disaster. Not to mention they are built for the 4-3, but switched over to the 3-4 anyway. Again, new = good is the perception, but hardly the reality.

And every year the Skins fans talk about how they’ll win the division and when it doesn’t happen Snyder just reverts to the ‘new = good’ campaign.







YR

 

[VACowboy]

on off-tackle runs and especially run sweeps, I think you will see some of those runs being called back more often than not beginning this season.

I sure hope so. I don't get the rationale behind exempting linemen from a rule that protects players' knees (which it effectively does). Shanahan is a scumbag in my book. What he teaches his players to do isn't illegal, but it endangers careers and he knows it. I'm SO glad he didn't end up in Dallas. The fact that he's coaching Washington makes it really easy for me to finally fully and thoroughly hate his guts.

I told a Commander loving idiot today (who's also a good friend) that everybody on Wash's schedule should put in chop blocking packages for the Skins and see how much Shanny likes seeing it inflicted on his boys.

And, sorry for the rant. It's an issue I feel strongly about and do not understand, from the NFL's perspective.

 

[Mansta54]

I don't know about Super Bowl bound, but they are certainly going to be a lot better team this year. I imagine they'll beat us at least once this season.

I have know idea why you would imagine this.. WE WILL CRUSH THEM....

 

[Mansta54]

I’m not that impressed with Snyder as a businessman. He’s had more failures in business than success and runs most of his businesses like he runs his football team, he keeps borrowing money for today with a promise to pay it tomorrow. Six Flags was an unmitigated failure, so was Johnny Rockets and others.

He got the Commanders ownership by leveraging himself to the tilt. The good news for him is that the Skins faithful are indeed faithful and continue to sell out FedEx, despite it being a lousy NFL stadium.

Snyder comes from ‘new money’, much like Mark Cuban. Cuban was in the computer and internet industries where the companies need to come out with ‘new products’ even if they are not exactly new (they may just tweak it a tad or give it a different name) or even better. But the perception of the buying public is that ‘new’ = good. Snyder didn’t come from the same industries as Cuban, but he’s a young NFL owner and he has the same mentality of ‘new’ = good. And each year the Commanders faithful and the Commanders fanboys in the local DC media buy into hook, line and sinker.

Zorn was woefully incompetent and couldn’t make their offense work, so they brought in Shanahan, a well known offensive minded coach. Blache has a better defensive track record than Haslett, but Haslett likes to blitz and that was the issue the fans had with Blache, but blitzing more doesn’t equate to success and if you’re not good at it, it will equate to disaster. Not to mention they are built for the 4-3, but switched over to the 3-4 anyway. Again, new = good is the perception, but hardly the reality.

And every year the Skins fans talk about how they’ll win the division and when it doesn’t happen Snyder just reverts to the ‘new = good’ campaign.







YR

Dead on point!!! I live here in the Foreskin area and their fans always equate NEW with GOOD and it simply just isn't true..

 

[VACowboy]

isn't it illegal if the guy is engaged high and another goes for the legs?

Yes, but why make the precondition? If you dive at the backs of a guy's knees and blow them out, why does it matter whether he was already being blocked?

 

[cobra]

And every year the Skins fans talk about how they’ll win the division and when it doesn’t happen Snyder just reverts to the ‘new = good’ campaign

Snyder does fall back on that because he knows he has the stupidest fanbase who will buy up anything he serves.

But another thing Snyder does is try to copy Jerry Jones. He is obsessed with Jerry Jones. He is desperate to emulate him.

Taylor was supposed to be his Roy Williams (who at the time they drafted Taylor was a big deal with lots of press)

Zorn was supposed to be his Jason Garrett (former NFL QB turned QB coach turned OC... and at the time, Jason G was the hottest thing in coaching). (And he tried to get Rex Ryan to be his DC so he'd have his 3-4 guru like Wade three years ago.)

3rd round Cooley his 3rd round Witten.

When we went to a 2 Tight end base offense, Snyder wanted to as well.

Orakpo his Ware.

He had to get new TV screens in the stadium because of Jerry's jumbotron.

He had to get a 3-4 defense.

He wanted Shannahan because he knew Jerry liked him.

And on and on and on.

The guy is obsessed with Jones and the Cowboys. He is desperate to try to be Jerry.

 

[SkinsHokieFan]

Snyder does fall back on that because he knows he has the stupidest fanbase who will buy up anything he serves.

But another thing Snyder does is try to copy Jerry Jones. He is obsessed with Jerry Jones. He is desperate to emulate him.

Taylor was supposed to be his Roy Williams (who at the time they drafted Taylor was a big deal with lots of press)

Zorn was supposed to be his Jason Garrett (former NFL QB turned QB coach turned OC... and at the time, Jason G was the hottest thing in coaching). (And he tried to get Rex Ryan to be his DC so he'd have his 3-4 guru like Wade three years ago.)

3rd round Cooley his 3rd round Witten.

When we went to a 2 Tight end base offense, Snyder wanted to as well.

Orakpo his Ware.

He had to get new TV screens in the stadium because of Jerry's jumbotron.

He had to get a 3-4 defense.

He wanted Shannahan because he knew Jerry liked him.

And on and on and on.

The guy is obsessed with Jones and the Cowboys. He is desperate to try to be Jerry.

You know, you actually do make some good points (I'd say Gibbs-Parcells, Zorn-Garrett are the obvious) but the others, *** are you talking about?

Shanahan made the decision on the 3-4, not Snyder. Thats just stupid. Can you point to one quote/reference that Dan Snyder wanted a 3-4

Orakpo was a needed pass rusher. The 2008 pass rush was atrocious

Sean Taylor was clearly the best player to take at the 5 spot. Who should the Commanders have taken, Kellen Winslow? :laugh2:The Commanders weren't going to take Rothlisberger at the 5 spot, and Larry Fitzgerald went at the number 3 spot. Thats just an absurd notion

The base 2 TE set? Really? This is getting comical

The Commanders fanbase has been begging for new jumbotrons for 5 years. The old bright lite system was an epic fail and a relic of a stadium being built pre-HD.

Me thinks you might be a bit obsessed with Dan Snyder

Wanted Shanahan because Jerry wanted Shanahan? LOL, do you think about what you type?

Clearly, "Snyder" drafted Trent Williams because Jerry has been drafting 1st round o-line for a decade now. Snyder didn't make a big FA splash because Jerry didn't make a big FA splash. Snyder brought in an undrafted QB to be his Romo. Brandon Banks is his Miles Austin. And on and on and on.

This can get real funny.

P.S-Cooley was drafted in the 2nd, not the 3rd, one year after Witten. Witten was far from a household name going into the 2004 offseason.

 

[cobra]

Shanahan made the decision on the 3-4, not Snyder.

Hahahahahahahaahha. It's funny how stupid Commanders fans are. Its pretty funny that you actually buy that BS about Snyder turning over control.

Can you point to one quote/reference that Dan Snyder wanted a 3-4

The courtship of Rex Ryan. The drafting of Orakpo. The fact that Snyder hired Haslett with the instruction of implementing a 3-4.

Sean Taylor was clearly the best player to take at the 5 spot.

Not really a rebuttal. It's obvious to anyone with half a brain (which excludes Commanders fans) that Snyder coveted Sean Taylor precisely because his rival had Roy Williams. That doesn't mean it was a bad pick or a reach. It just that it is obvious that Snyder wanted him because of the pub that Roy got.

The base 2 TE set? Really? This is getting comical

Impressive rebuttal.

The Commanders fanbase has been begging for new jumbotrons for 5 years.

And yet, Snyder ignored them for years, presumably because Snyder was waiting to build a new stadium instead of invest more in FedEx. But once Jerry got his Jumbotron that was one the leading stories in the NFL, Snyder wouldn't wait any more...

P.S-Cooley was drafted in the 2nd, not the 3rd

Huh?

• Chris Cooley
• #47
• Tight End

• Height: 6-3
• Weight: 250
• Born: Jul 11, 1982 - Powell, WY
• College: Utah State
• Draft: 2004 - 3rd round (18th pick) by the Washington Commanders

_____________________

You can call it stupid all you want and laugh it up. It is beyond obvious to anyone other than an idiot Skins fan that Snyder is fixated on Jerry Jones and desires his stature.

Does that mean he completely copies Jerry? No. But he is certainly inclined to try to emulate Jerry on certain GM moves.

Snyder doesn't have a clue what he is doing, so all he knows what to do is copy others.

Jerry is his idol. Jerry has three rings and 3 Lombardis; Jerry is richer; Jerry is more well respected in the league; Jerry has more power with the NFL; Jerry owns Snyder's rival.

Then again, Commanders fans are the same morons who think they are going to win the Super Bowl every year, so "perception of the obvious" is clearly something they cannot grasp.

 

[cobra]

Here's a real quick test to prove the lack of intelligence and rationality of a Skins fan with one word:

True or false: Compared to the Commanders, the Cowboys are the superior franchise by common measures of success.

If the Commanders fans cannot answer correctly that demonstrably proveable proposition, then you can know they are an idiot.

Can SkinHokiesFan answer it correctly?

 

[Califan007]

If you can't win in the playoffs might as well win in the offseason & preseason.

No comment lol

 

[Mansta54]

_____________________

You can call it stupid all you want and laugh it up. It is beyond obvious to anyone other than an idiot Skins fan that Snyder is fixated on Jerry Jones and desires his stature.

Does that mean he completely copies Jerry? No. But he is certainly inclined to try to emulate Jerry on certain GM moves.

Snyder doesn't have a clue what he is doing, so all he knows what to do is copy others.

Jerry is his idol. Jerry has three rings and 3 Lombardis; Jerry is richer; Jerry is more well respected in the league; Jerry has more power with the NFL; Jerry owns Snyder's rival.

Then again, Commanders fans are the same morons who think they are going to win the Super Bowl every year, so "perception of the obvious" is clearly something they cannot grasp.

Absolutely luv the words that are in bold print. Music to my ears...

 

[Califan007]

Here's a real quick test to prove the lack of intelligence and rationality of a Skins fan with one word:

True or false: Compared to the Commanders, the Cowboys are the superior franchise by common measures of success.

If the Commanders fans cannot answer correctly that demonstrably proveable proposition, then you can know they are an idiot.

Can SkinHokiesFan answer it correctly?

In terms of league championships? False.

In terms of league championship appearances? False.

In terms of head-to-head records? True.

In terms of head-to-head records in the playoffs? False.

In terms of division titles? True.