Skins ready to move on from RGIII

Bizwah

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I see a lot of talk about RGIIIs athleticism amd arm strength as a reason for wanting him, but think some people are overlooking his injury history and the impact that has had on his athleticism. RGIII has had two ACL tears a LCL tear, dislocated ankle, and several concussions. This has definitely had impact on his speed and ability cut. If you watched him play last year, you saw him getting chased down by linemen and linebackers....something that never would have happened in his rookie year. He is not very durable and is an injury waiting to happen....that is not something you want in a QB who can only perform well in a read option type offense.

I don't think anyone is wanting him as a savior.

Ask yourself this question, and answer it honestly.

"Is he bette than any QB on our roster not named Tony Romo?"

If you answered yes, then why not bring him in as a backup?

If your answer is no.....then I'm not sure what QBs you watched last night.
 

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Vaughn is not an NFL player. Weeden is really poor. Our back ups need a serious upgrade.
 

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Just saw a report saying coaches wanna move on and Snyder is the only one holding up the process.

So would you? Young backup QB who can learn from romo and garrett. Could probably get him cheap.

Or do you prefer Weeden and Vaughn?

NO.........HELL no.
 

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I don't think anyone is wanting him as a savior.

Ask yourself this question, and answer it honestly.

"Is he bette than any QB on our roster not named Tony Romo?"

If you answered yes, then why not bring him in as a backup?

If your answer is no.....then I'm not sure what QBs you watched last night.

I don't deny our backups are horrible and our season is lost if they have to play more than 2 games. But the as I posted before, if we want to trade for hom, we are on the hook for his $16mm salary next year....no backup is worth that much cap space. The other option is to pick him up if he is cut, that means he has to get by 25 other teams first on the waiver list. That's not happening. So I do not see any way we should get him.
 
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He's owed 16 million. 16 million reasons not to sign him...

This.

If we couldn't afford to spend on Murray to stay..

you do not spend like that to sit the clipboard for 2 years.

Talent-wise he could be just what we need.

But Fantasy Football this isn't.
 

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I think his career is pretty much over, in the sense of ever being a factor again. He might be a backup somewhere, but that's it. But, part of me would love to see him come to Dallas and succeed just to watch Snyder's head explode.
 

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ESPN | Sources: Commanders brass at odds over ending Robert Griffin III era


High-ranking Washington Commanders front-office officials and coaches want to part ways with quarterback Robert Griffin III, but are meeting resistance from team ownership, according to team and league sources.

The Commanders even have had trade conversations about Griffin with a handful of NFL teams, but have found no interest, and it remains unclear whether ownership would allow Washington to trade him, sources said.

It is becoming increasingly apparent that Griffin has lost his starting quarterback job, and depending on the events and conversations in the coming days, possibly his roster spot.

Outside of ownership, there has been a groundswell of support from a strong segment of football people within the organization to change quarterbacks, but there is a question about whether they have the authority to part ways with Griffin, sources said.

One of the main issues now for the Commanders and other teams is Griffin's contract, which is guaranteed for $16.1 million in 2016 for injury only.

When the Commanders announced they picked up the fifth-year option in Griffin's contract in April, many expected it to tie him to the franchise through 2016. Instead, it may have the opposite effect.

If Washington plays Griffin this season -- and the NFL still has not cleared him to return to action from a recent concussion -- and he gets injured again, the Commanders cannot cut him until he's cleared to play again.

In addition, should Griffin suffer an injury that extends into the 2016 season, his $16.1 million salary for next season is guaranteed. That could also scare off some teams interested in trading for Griffin.

Even if ownership prevails and convinces the Commanders' front office to keep Griffin, he is not expected to hold on to his starting quarterback job.

The Commanders are determined to start a different quarterback on opening day against the Miami Dolphins, and Griffin's time as the starter now appears over. The more significant question is whether his time in Washington is as well.
 

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I think his career is pretty much over, in the sense of ever being a factor again. He might be a backup somewhere, but that's it. But, part of me would love to see him come to Dallas and succeed just to watch Snyder's head explode.

He's made plenty of money from the Commanders and Subway.. He'll laugh all the way to the bank if he doesn't play another snap..
 

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This.

If we couldn't afford to spend on Murray to stay..

you do not spend like that to sit the clipboard for 2 years.

Talent-wise he could be just what we need.

But Fantasy Football this isn't.

Sit him for 2 years and then watch the Quincy Carter experiment Part 2. RG3 is damaged goods. I doubt he's ever going to be an effective QB again.
 

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Any thoughts on his shortcomings as a leader and or teammate ?

You're asking a lot from a guy to be THE leader when he's a rookie. And let's face it, the Skins are the epitome of a dysfunctional franchise. Tough to be a leader when you're undercut by a buffoon of an owner. Jerry may be a lot of things, but not allowing a player to lead the team isn't one of them.

My questions are:

1. Does he have the ability to play the position?

2. Will he take time on the bench with the goal of improving as a QB and to take over when the opportunity presents itself or is he going to sulk, leak information to the media, etc?

3. Can he take tough coaching?

4. Will he come at a cheap price tag?

I think he has #1. #2, #3 and #4 are question marks to me. If I were Jerry, I would want to see him convince me he can answer #2 and #3 satisfactorily. If he can, he then has to prove those things. If he's all talk and little action, then I can cut him at a small cost.

Make him jump thru hoops. If not, tell him to hit the bricks.




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I don't think anyone is wanting him as a savior.

Ask yourself this question, and answer it honestly.

"Is he bette than any QB on our roster not named Tony Romo?"

If you answered yes, then why not bring him in as a backup?

If your answer is no.....then I'm not sure what QBs you watched last night.

If your answer is yes - you haven't watched RGIII the last 3 years. Weeden is better right now.
 

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If your answer is yes - you haven't watched RGIII the last 3 years. Weeden is better right now.

If Dallas would not take Manzel last year..

they would never go after RGIII now.

I don't think Dallas wants undisciplined QBs who freelance their offenses.

Romo makes plays with his ability to buy time.

But he's not a freelancer. Early in his career..yes.

Now..no.
 

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Just saw a report saying coaches wanna move on and Snyder is the only one holding up the process.

So would you? Young backup QB who can learn from romo and garrett. Could probably get him cheap.

Or do you prefer Weeden and Vaughn?

He can learn from who? ..... Where? .....when?..........how!?!!!???


He doesn't play we'll in the sandbox. The sand is his. Only his.
 

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He is not owed 16 million. That has to be most misunderstood extension in NFL history.

Given the context of the conversation, he basically is owed $16 million. Yes, as of now it is only guaranteed for injury, and does not become fully guaranteed until the first day of the league year, but anyone that trades for him or claims him off waivers is on the hook for those same conditions.
 

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Tons of you guys in here and in all these other RG3 threads (can we get an all things RG3 merge!?) are really under estimating how useless a QB that doesn't know the playbook is. Yes physically he's better than Weeden, Vaughan or Showers, as well as the trio of QBs in Buffalo and on the Jets, but there's no way anyone who works in football on a professional level would believe RG3 can come in and contribute to a team without being comfortable with the receivers or the linemen and on top of that he would not know the playbook or likely even the offense itself, ie, where is the check down. He has two flaws that would make this stand out almost immediately, number 1, he does not thrown down field unless it's off a play action and the guy is wide open. Either he doesn't trust his accuracy or is too worried about mistakes, either way he doesn't. Number 2, when he begins scrambling, he takes his eyes off the receivers and in a new offense, he won't be able to locate them.

Had Washington made this decision in June, then a number of teams who did not get QBs in the draft would likely be interested. When he is released, a number of teams would be interested, but at this point, he would have to clear waivers for anyone to go near him, because if he's injured, you owe him 16 million and quite frankly, any team that tries him will want to lock him in for 2-3 years to actually develop him.
 

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I would not be opposed to a face to face meeting between RGIII and the Cowboys behind closed doors. The guy has all the ability and is very accurate on the long ball.
 
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