Skip Bayless is an idiot, but...

[iceberg]

but OUR ony fault is taking what the media said last year and when TO was in SF as the truth. Which we're clearly seeing now, they're not reporting the truth. I was admittedly less informed last year and in previous years. I just joined this board a year ago. I think CZ.com has opened my eyes in the past year, and I want to help open some new members eyes right now to what the media is doing. Not that I didn't expect it, but it's not right.

but no other team or their fans care. are we "enlightened" or just more sympathetic due to our direct involvement?

 

[WV Cowboy]

This was my point in this post... http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=972508&postcount=23

I think it's not a matter of only caring when it applies to you or your team. I think it's a matter of our eyes being opened to what he may have gone through in those other places...

I'M NOT GIVING TO A PASS ON HIS PAST... but it's hard to ignore the venom the media has directed towards him in this TC. If they're doing that here, what did they do back then. but back then we only accepted it because we were less informed and biased.... like you said.

But that's what the media banks on. They know that 31 other teams and their fans are less informed because they aren't following it like we are. they don't listen to BP's pressers every day. We do, we see the lies, we call them on it. The media is at fault... i know you're not saying they are without fault...

but OUR ony fault is taking what the media said last year and when TO was in SF as the truth. Which we're clearly seeing now, they're not reporting the truth. I was admittedly less informed last year and in previous years. I just joined this board a year ago. I think CZ.com has opened my eyes in the past year, and I want to help open some new members eyes right now to what the media is doing. Not that I didn't expect it, but it's not right.

Pretty good stuff.

Good post.

 

[peplaw06]

but no other team or their fans care. are we "enlightened" or just more sympathetic due to our direct involvement?

I think it would be sympathetic if we were spinning the media's statements into falsity. There is no need for "spin" with statements like "BP has repeatedly called TO out." Show me where he did it Bayless? That's not speculation, and us calling that a lie is not sympathy. I guess it is as you say "enlightenment."

 

[BLEU3ASY]

This was my point in this post... http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=972508&postcount=23

I think it's not a matter of only caring when it applies to you or your team. I think it's a matter of our eyes being opened to what he may have gone through in those other places...

I'M NOT GIVING TO A PASS ON HIS PAST... but it's hard to ignore the venom the media has directed towards him in this TC. If they're doing that here, what did they do back then. but back then we only accepted it because we were less informed and biased.... like you said.

But that's what the media banks on. They know that 31 other teams and their fans are less informed because they aren't following it like we are. they don't listen to BP's pressers every day. We do, we see the lies, we call them on it. The media is at fault... i know you're not saying they are without fault...

but OUR ony fault is taking what the media said last year and when TO was in SF as the truth. Which we're clearly seeing now, they're not reporting the truth. I was admittedly less informed last year and in previous years. I just joined this board a year ago. I think CZ.com has opened my eyes in the past year, and I want to help open some new members eyes right now to what the media is doing. Not that I didn't expect it, but it's not right.

nice post

 

[iceberg]

I think it would be sympathetic if we were spinning the media's statements into falsity. There is no need for "spin" with statements like "BP has repeatedly called TO out." Show me where he did it Bayless? That's not speculation, and us calling that a lie is not sympathy. I guess it is as you say "enlightenment."

but we did the same thing last year as other fans are doing now - jumping on the conclusions that may or may not be true. to expect others to suddenly find religion when we didn't doesn't make sense to me.

maybe we more directly understand things now because we do see it daily, but the rest of the league won't care. if TO were on another team, 99% of us (my guess) wouldn't care.

but now it's the foul of all fouls. so it is, or is it just human nature in action?

 

[peplaw06]

but we did the same thing last year as other fans are doing now - jumping on the conclusions that may or may not be true. to expect others to suddenly find religion when we didn't doesn't make sense to me.

No one said it had to be done suddenly. But when something like this is so blatant (and lends itself to easy criticism), it will help speed the process.

maybe we more directly understand things now because we do see it daily, but the rest of the league won't care. if TO were on another team, 99% of us (my guess) wouldn't care.

You're right the rest of the league won't care that they're lying... but they care about the controversy. It's the train-wreck mentality. Casual fans want to see train wrecks. But shouldn't they also care if someone is being crucified with lies. Not to say he doesn't deserve scrutiny, but there's no reason to lie about it.

but now it's the foul of all fouls. so it is, or is it just human nature in action?

maybe it is human nature... train-wreck mentality. But it used to be human nature to be outwardly racist... witnesses to murders used to look the other way... things can change. Call me an idealist i guess.

 

[BigDFan5]

but the writers have done it in philly, sf, baltimore - and we didn't cry foul then did we? we only seem to care about even treatment when we're directly involved.

that's my "beef".

So your beef is nobody cared when a paper in a diferent town said something about a player on a different team? A rival team no less? Thats not much of a beef if you dont mind my saying so.

 

[iceberg]

So your beef is nobody cared when a paper in a diferent town said something about a player on a different team? A rival team no less? Thats not much of a beef if you dont mind my saying so.

say it, brotha! but no, it's a bit deeper than that.

 

[ringmaster]

See I hold both sides to the same standard, If TO f's up then sure get on him, but dont try and create contreversy over an injury, especially when he has done nothing to warrant it while part of the Dallas Cowboys.


Sure he has a PAST. That should have nothing to do with Dallas writers trying to sensationalize a small thing like an injury.[/quote/] You know what Big D, when it comes to the media, and some fans they don't like to be challenged.

You can present facts all day long to them only for the to keep coming with that same fabricated BS.

Everybody wants to play psychologist when it comes to T.O., how does Skippy, know that Parcells "took shots" at T.O. during his PCs, we as Cowboys fans listen to them daily and not one time did Parcells, take shots at Owens.

Chris Mortensen, on Monday was saying that JJ, and Bill was at a crossroad regarding the signing of Owens saying that Bill, saying "I told you so", about not wanting to sign Owens only for JJ, to say "I told you so" when he scores 3 tds, in a game in the reg. season now where did he get that info certainly not from Camp Cowboys.

I find this ironic because we all know the temper tantrun Moss, had on the sidelines Monday, about getting pulled out the game saying that he really wanted to play and the caoch shouldn't have pulled him if that would've been T.O., you can bet that everyone of those media clowns would be talking right now about how selfish he was.

Most of the posters are right when they say that alot of fans are misinformed when it comes to a team that they don't like because they can't keep up with all the hooplah that fans of that particular team do.

To me though T.O, is going to be T.O. and through history any flamboyant person was looked at as an outkast.

Terrell Owens, is the most disected player in the history of the NFL, and if most of us watched T.O, over the years he's very peculiar about his body and this hamstring deal was no different.

That is why I don't watch most media outlets anymore because you can't believe everything you read or hear in the papers, or the news outlets.