So How Does This Help The Defense?

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Seems like the old Jerruh is back in town, and that's definitely not a good thing.
 

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Kilyin;2342134 said:
Seems like the old Jerruh is back in town, and that's definitely not a good thing.

shouldn't you be complaining about the QB issue in Minnesota.....
 

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WV Cowboy;2342109 said:
Really? That makes little sense to me.


Yeah, that was probably a little strong on my part.

But, the team is the some of the parts, and this is one of the more expensive "parts" when one considers the contract costs combine with the loss of the draft picks.

The trade may not be a complete failure if the Cowboys don't win a championship over the next 4-5 years, it probably won't be looked upon as a "good move".
 

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DaBoys4Life;2342139 said:
shouldn't you be complaining about the QB issue in Minnesota.....

Shouldn't you be at a strip club, looking for your mother?
 

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Don Corleone;2341880 said:
It does help the defense by keeping our underperforming unit off the field a bit longer while we keep drives alive. Right now, our best defense is keeping our offense on the field.

Just my 2 cents.

You make a good point. Had not thought about it that way.

Let's hope it works out that way...
 

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MichaelWinicki;2342067 said:
If this team doesn't win a Superbowl over the next 4-5 years, then I would have to consider the trade an outright failure.

but you think the #1 (mid 20s) and #3 would create BETTER CHANCES of a superbowl victory?

seriously?
 

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DaBoys4Life;2342150 said:

Seriously, do you ever add anything remotely intelligent to any thread? All you do is make idiotic comments, ask dumb questions, and follow me around calling me a Viking fan. That's called 'stalking'.
 

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Kilyin;2342156 said:
Seriously, do you ever add anything remotely intelligent to any thread? All you do is make idiotic comments, ask dumb questions, and follow me around calling me a Viking fan. That's called 'stalking'.

youre not a viking fan ?
 

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MichaelWinicki;2341846 said:
While there is no doubt in my mind that Roy Williams (the new one :)) will help this offense-- some.

I just don't think this team's problem is with the offense. This offense will score points-- even if Roy Williams was not the #2 receiver.

But until the mindset/play on this defense improves, I'm not sure if the Roy Williams trade does much more for us than allow this team to beat the cream-puff it will face in the first round of the playoffs.

When this team traded for Charles Haley and drafted Kevin Smith, after the 1991 season, I was confident that the team "found" the missing parts it needed in order to get deep into the playoffs.

I'm not sure the right "missing parts" have been found.

What say you?






And I don't even want to bring up special teams. :(

I would say you are 100% correct.

Every now and then, the offense will not score points and the defense has to be prepared to take up the slack. They simply have to elevate their play.

There have been teams like this over the years (Coryell Chargers, the Vikings in the mid-nineties, last year's Patriots) but the old addage about defense winning championships always applies in the end.
 

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MichaelWinicki;2342023 said:
Yes we did draft corners.

There are supposedly a lot of good players on this defense.

Yet, it still comes up small game after game.

Maybe the addition to the defense isn't a player.

Maybe it's something more fundamental.

Poor coaching in the secondary would be my guess. There is (has) been an embarassment of talent that still comes up short in the crunch.
 

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Alexander;2342175 said:
I would say you are 100% correct.

Every now and then, the offense will not score points and the defense has to be prepared to take up the slack. They simply have to elevate their play.

There have been teams like this over the years (Coryell Chargers, the Vikings in the mid-nineties, last year's Patriots) but the old addage about defense winning championships always applies in the end.

I think we can win like the Rams did!!!!!
 

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chinch;2342152 said:
but you think the #1 (mid 20s) and #3 would create BETTER CHANCES of a superbowl victory?

seriously?


It's not just those two draft choices.

Roy Williams will cost this team a lot of money... Money that could have gone to other players.

You can't sign/resign everyone.

And that could very well determine how successful this team becomes, if not this year, then in future years.

Hey, this trade could be icing on the cake. I hope it is.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2342174 said:
youre not a viking fan ?

:rolleyes:

We've been through this schtick before. I've already told you I'm not a Viking fan. Why would I have contributed money to this message board, and have as many posts as I do? Why would I also have a Cowboys helmet as my avatar?

Use a little common sense, if that's possible.
 

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MichaelWinicki;2342189 said:
It's not just those two draft choices.

Roy Williams will cost this team a lot of money... Money that could have gone to other players.

You can't sign/resign everyone.

And that could very well determine how successful this team becomes, if not this year, then in future years.

Hey, this trade could be icing on the cake. I hope it is.

I hear you but spending $$$ is the one of the few things jerry does right. he's not pocketing. sure he misspends at the wrong time but....

Sticky: 2008 Cap Update - $7,386,308 million under (09/05/08) *Post #185

plus TO has 2 years left, this deal is 3 years POST TO.
 

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Kilyin;2342199 said:
:rolleyes:

We've been through this schtick before. I've already told you I'm not a Viking fan. Why would I have contributed money to this message board, and have as many posts as I do? Why would I also have a Cowboys helmet as my avatar?

Use a little common sense, if that's possible.

are you sure !!!!!! ah It's my mistake then I guess.....:rolleyes:
 

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Alexander;2342175 said:
I would say you are 100% correct.

Every now and then, the offense will not score points and the defense has to be prepared to take up the slack. They simply have to elevate their play.

There have been teams like this over the years (Coryell Chargers, the Vikings in the mid-nineties, last year's Patriots) but the old addage about defense winning championships always applies in the end.

I've lost track how many times I've watched this offense over the past 2 years and have thought, "Wow, this is some offense!"

I've never had that thought a single time about this defense-- a least not in a positive light.
 

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MichaelWinicki;2341846 said:
So How Does This Help The Defense?

The more points the offense scores, the more one dimensional the opposing offense has to be.


One dimensional offenses are easier to defend.


That's how it helps the defense.
 

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MichaelWinicki;2342204 said:
I've lost track how many times I've watched this offense over the past 2 years and have thought, "Wow, this is some offense!"

I've never had that thought a single time about this defense-- a least not in a positive light.

Our defense is very suspect....adding offensive fire power should equate to more points I figure if we average 40 points a game from the time Romo come back we won't lose no matter who we go up against and we will win the super bowl with this BS defense.
 

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Rack;2342217 said:
The more points the offense scores, the more one dimensional the opposing offense has to be.


One dimensional offenses are easier to defend.


That's how it helps the defense.

true.....but will we be able to shut down the other teams WR with the pass coverage we have implored
 
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