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remember guys, we were set to draft OT/OG Daryn Colledge in the 2nd, but Green Bay beat us to the punch, probably would have drafted Marcus McNeil too if he didnt' remind the coaches of Jacob Rogers, in a bad way w/ his degenartive back and all, so BP isn't averse to drafting an Olineman pretty high, although the one position we really need a new Olineman is RG, and we'll probably fill that in FA
 

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first off I think he is still a good coach top 5. Also, there are no candidates out there who we are missing out on this year IMO. Plus he overhauled our whole roster it was crap before he got here and now we have a lot of young talent thanks to Parcells. For one more year he is the best man for the job. :star:
 

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Biggest plus to this arrangement-mentioned on this board already-would be Henning freeing up Parcells to focus on the defense this year.

I'd be fine with this coaching staff.
 

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I'll tell you what I will feel pretty confident if parcells returns only if he brings henning and al groh with him.

He hasn't won squat without his veteran coaches around him, and instead of having some jerks like chris palmer, and paul (whatever his last name is) and tod bowles, oh i cant forget about the super cocky jerk todd haley.

we can have some experienced bill guys and proven guys in this league that knows what they're doing.

bill knows that they're not some young coaches he'll run all over, and he wouldn't have to punch any of them either. lol

I also think that we could potentially have a head coaching replacement in al groh who is still pretty young and knows the 3-4 and i think as his only year as a head coach he made the playoffs and went 9-7 before going to virginia.

Just my 2 cents
 

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Hostile;1319438 said:
My disappointment would be in less than stellar results again, especially another 2-3 fade in the last 5 games of the season.

If Parcells and his crew of misfits can transform this team into a Champion I'd be ecstatic. I am disappointed in the results, not the people.

agreed hos
i was a strong BP supporter when he was hired but results over the last 4 years have changed my opinion, however

if BP really wants to coach i would be happy with him coming back if:

-he hires OC and DC from outside who are aggressive/innovative in their approach
-our team plays with intensity and consistency and "leave it on the field"
-no december meltdown
-no more "i dont know why we are not playing up to potential" PCs

i have said he should go because i just dont see this happening
 

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Woods;1319410 said:
coaches this season, Henning is our OC (or whatever title JJ/BP gives him) along with our OC's from last season, and Bowles is the DC?

Do you consider this status quo, an improvement, or disappointment?

As for me, I'd consider it status quo.
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nyc;1319447 said:
Why? What happen this year in Carolina was beyond his control. Go back before that and Carolina had a good offense without a boat load of major weapons like we have now.

As I said though, without an offensive line, you offense will be questionable at best. So, first things first. We've got to fix the line. Rivera. You're outta here!

Carolina offensive rankings by year:
2003 - 16th
2004 - 13th
2005 - 22nd
2006 - 24th

Their defense, especially Peppers & Jenkins, carried them for most of those years. I will admit that they did have a good offensive showing in the SB vs. NE.
 

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disappointed????? With Zimmer gone how can anyone other than Mrs. Zimmer be disappointed? baby steps for continuity, people.
 

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big dog cowboy;1320300 said:
Continuity? We are a .500 team the last 4 years with BP. You want more of the same? :mad:

Why yes, yes they would. Frightening, isn't it? I don't know what Bill has done to earn such blind allegiance. Millions of dollars has bought us four years of mediocrity and heartache. And they called Henson a thief?
 

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I'll still be happy when Parcells is no longer in the Cowboys organization or on their sideline...however, I won't be disappointed to see a guy honor his contract and try to finish the job that he has so far either failed at or at best, found minimum success at.

Good Luck to him and the Cowboys this season and next season should he decide to coach another year...but I'm excited by the prospects of a new coach who will take a different approach with the draft, his coaches, and the game on Sunday.
 

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big dog cowboy;1320300 said:
Continuity? We are a .500 team the last 4 years with BP. You want more of the same? :mad:

This is as tired as the "you want to go back to Campo?" line.

Yes. Everyone who wants Bill to stay wants to keep failing in December and losing in the playoffs. Because there is no CHANCE that having HIS guys on the defensive staff will have the same effect on that unit as having HIS guys on the offensive staff did last year. No, that's impossible.

So, yes - everyone who wants Bill wants more losing. I guess everyone who doesn't want Bill doesn't want any more Tony Romo's, Patrick Crayton's, Terry Glenn's, DeMarcus Ware's, or Marc Colombo's. They'd much rather have the talent-laden staff we had in here before Parcells, and go 5-11.

See how great that works both ways? :rolleyes:
 

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mickgreen58;1319460 said:
At this point, I think the NFC Teams would have to completely fall apart, have a ton of injuries, experience one of the worst down seasons in NFC history (which it has in the last 5-6 years) and the Cowboys not have a lot of injuries for us to really make a run at the Championship.

Oh wait, that happened already...nevermind.

- Mike G.

:bow: Brilliant.
 

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big dog cowboy;1320300 said:
Continuity? We are a .500 team the last 4 years with BP. You want more of the same? :mad:

Yeah continuity. We have a bunch of 1st and 2nd year starters on defense, and they clearly lost their composure down the stretch. I want to give some of these 3rd year guys like Spears and Canty and Burnett the best chance to break out, as well as see the 2nd year guys like Hatcher and Carpenter and Watkins with a full season and offseason under their belt. Staying in the same system maximizes that potential.

I think we tend to forget just how young this defense is.

If it fails again next year throw it out, but maybe the thing this team really lacks is just experience.
 

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Idgit;1320198 said:
Biggest plus to this arrangement-mentioned on this board already-would be Henning freeing up Parcells to focus on the defense this year.

I'd be fine with this coaching staff.

Be careful what you wish for.

Besides, one of the articles poster here a couple of weeks after our season was over said Parcells took over the Defensive duties, not sure how accurate that was.

- Mike G.
 

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I won't be dissapointed at all if BP stays, but I will be dissapointed if Bowles or Pasq becomes our DC.

The blame that BP is now receiving for the collapse at the end of the year is a bit funny if you ask me, because if he did start to take over it was because Zimmer admittedly did not know what to do.

To say that him being more imfluential on the defense is scary really is just not fair based on the scenario of taking over a demoralized D unit.

But carry on!
 

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aikemirv;1321039 said:
I won't be dissapointed at all if BP stays, but I will be dissapointed if Bowles or Pasq becomes our DC.

The blame that BP is now receiving for the collapse at the end of the year is a bit funny if you ask me, because if he did start to take over it was because Zimmer admittedly did not know what to do.

To say that him being more imfluential on the defense is scary really is just not fair based on the scenario of taking over a demoralized D unit.

But carry on!

After his departure, Zimmer also said he would have like to have had more DBs on the field in certain situations and when asked why that wasn't the case, his response was that he couldn't answer. I don't know whose fault it was that our D stunk. I think it was a combo of things...Purcells, Zimmer, Ellis gone and the players (e.g., Bradie "Mr Roboto" James, Roy "I can't cover a fire hydrant" Williams).

At the end of the day, Purcells is responsible for the product. If Zimmer is failing, it's his job to step in and exert his influence/expertise, if he wasn't already. He is the Head Coach, the buck stops with him.
 

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Skin;1321042 said:
After his departure, Zimmer also said he would have like to have had more DBs on the field in certain situations and when asked why that wasn't the case, his response was that he couldn't answer. I don't know whose fault it was that our D stunk. I think it was a combo of things...Purcells, Zimmer, Ellis gone and the players (e.g., Bradie "Mr Roboto" James, Roy "I can't cover a fire hydrant" Williams).

At the end of the day, Purcells is responsible for the product, if Zimmer is failing, it's his job to step in and exert his influence/expertise, if he wasn't already. He is the Head Coach, the buck stops with him.

I am not absolving BP of any blame, but I am not putting it all on him either.

I blame BP for going to the 3-4 and keeping Zimmer. That was a bad move. It will be another bad move IMO to put Bowles in there.

Don't get me wrong, I want a new 3-4 DC, but I am not going to blame BP for everything. I blame the players more than the coaches I guess is my main point.
 

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aikemirv;1321048 said:
I am not absolving BP of any blame, but I am not putting it all on him either.

I blame BP for going to the 3-4 and keeping Zimmer. That was a bad move. It will be another bad move IMO to put Bowles in there.

Don't get me wrong, I want a new 3-4 DC, but I am not going to blame BP for everything. I blame the players more than the coaches I guess is my main point.

Understood and I respect your point of view.

My opinion is that players can and will make mistakes. If players continue to make mistakes, it's a reflection on the coaching and organization (See the Oakland Raiders) because either the coach isn't getting through to those players, he's not putting them in a system and position to succeed or he has the wrong players. In Bill's case, save TO, I think he's pretty much picked all of the players, so if they continue to make mistakes and fail, I see it as a reflection on him.
 

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Skin;1321058 said:
In Bill's case, save TO, I think he's pretty much picked all of the players, so if they continue to make mistakes and fail, I see it as a reflection on him.

I'd agree with that. But I'd like to give all of these kids with 1 or 2 years experience in the NFL another year before I declare Bill unable to coach them or call them uncoachable.
 
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