Bear hug? Lol. The pulling Guard basically came over and patted Lawrence on the shoulder because Lawrence took himself out of the play so he barely even engaged him. The video must have missed those tidbits because it said nothing of the sort and I didn't see anything of that sort.
I’d argue the forces of our own doing is greatest obstacle or odds to overcome.
Well, we're also not talking about the totality of what was missed or called. I do think that if we looked at that, we'd see we came up on the short end of good/bad calls or no-calls, as we often do. As I've said elsewhere, there have been a few games where we won that battle and a few where we broke even, but we come up short far more often than I believe that we should. It would have been nice to see how the game would have turned out if it was evenly called.
Thank you!
I just found the link in my history. There's no "bear hug" on Lawrence at all. Like literally at all. Lawrence did all the damage to himself by getting fooled. The Guard just got in his way, did a 2-handed touch thing on him and let him go where he wanted. Berrios is on Wilson and blocks him and continues engaging Wilson as Wilson slips away catching Wilson's trailing hand but doesn't pull on it and Wilson is allowed to go where he wanted to go in changing directions. Again, consult the rule: you have to "materially restrict or alter the defender’s path or angle of pursuit." If Wilson got to go where he wanted to go and wasn't materially restricted from doing so (material meaning that some is okay) then that is not a hold.
Again, if you can't understand the fundamental difference between the unsubstantiated strident claims being made and an actual question, then I can't help you.
He hooked him, but he didn't grab him. There was no pull, so it's unlikely that it would have been called holding. Of course, it has been called before.
I think your definition of materially restrict is only yours. If a player is trying to make a play at or near the line of scrimmage, but instead has to fight through a hold and make the play several yards downfield, then he's materially restricted. You can't say it didn't alter the defender's path if he had to move back away from the hold in order to escape it and make the play. Berrios grabbed Wilson's outside shoulder on the side and restricted him where the running back ran. It should have been called a hold. I do agree that it was not called because Wilson fought through to get in on the play. That doesn't mean that without the hold he wouldn't have made the play much quicker. We can't assume that.
The thing is they can miss them just like we can in real time . And if we aren’t provided instant replays with different angles which often need to be shown in slow mo several times to be certain we’d miss many of them too.
Not what I saw. He hooked the arm around his shoulder and pushed him with the other hand.
That's where you're wrong. Wilson moved back away from a "block" to make a play, not a hold. You can't make a play while engaged and they collided before any alleged hold took place. You're saying a hold took place as he disengaged from a block and Berrios held his hand. There was literally no grabbing or even touching of Wilson's shoulder by Berrios. None. I'm watching the replay as I type this too. When Wilson saw Berrios coming, he braces for the impact and actually puts up his two fists together at his chest so Berrios can't wrap up or grab him and as he disengages to go after the runner, all that's left to wrap up on is one of Wilson's hands he used to make fists with. But Wilson is able to move to go after the runner. Again, the rule is about "the defender’s path or angle of pursuit." Neither of those was altered by Berrios' action. I can't believe I'm asking for this but if Berrios grabbed Wilson's shoulder, provide a still shot from the video. He didn't even touch Wilson's shoulder other than Wilson running into him with his.
Call me an ageist, but I'd also look at ways to bring down the average age of the refs because these dudes all look to be senior citizens.
Berrios held his inside shoulder. You can clearly see his hand wrapped around the shoulder, which stymies Wilson's ability to get to the ball carrier. You really need to look again because he was wearing a colored glove that can easily be seen. It wasn't a long hold and Wilson fought through it, but he was clearly impeded.
Again, you're not looking at the Guard's hand action. He raises that arm you speak of in a "push" fashion that you're saying somehow turned into a hook when a DL who got fooled has to loop around to the ball carrier. That IS Lawrence's fault. The OL isn't penalized for the DL's bad decision-making and thus positioning. Positioning is part of the reason the rip technique holding exception exists in the rules I gather. But to continue with this hooking theory, if the Guard successfully hooks Lawrence, how is Lawrence able to still get that hooked arm on the ball carrier and partially trip him? Not a very effective hook I'd say. That's because the before and after show it wasn't. A hook turns a defender from where he wants to go because that's the wording of the rule that overarches everything. Lawrence was wanting to, and got to the ball carrier to actually trip him up, even after being wrong-footed. So again, we go to the rules: was Lawrence "materially restricted" or had his "path or angle of pursuit" altered or did he get to where he wanted to go when changing directions, all the way to contacting the ball carrier in this case? You cannot get around that rule.
Great point. They are reviewed every week though . And most of older officials are head referee who aren’t making all the calls just announcing them.
No, I'd like the still shot. I've watched the video repeatedly, including just now. What you say is there, is not even close to being there. And Berrios was wearing an off-white glove so it contrasts to the Cowboys white uniforms so there's nothing to confuse.
