Some of you are forgetting how good this team is already...

[stilltheguru]

It appears we are content with options like Marc Columbo and Jacob Rogers laugh2: ) for our issues at right tackle, instead of players like Kevin Barry or Tom Ashworth. That's a pretty dangerous game to play, particularly that we will be starting a sixth round pick there again who gave up the most sacks in football.[/quote]




^^we were leading the nfc east with pettiti starting so i agree with jerry and bills decisions so far.im sure they are going to get at least 2 more o linemen before the start of the season so im not worried.

 

[Rush 2112]

Bledsoe fans too.

Carter fan club. Party of one. Your table is ready.

Next stop arena league.

 

[wileedog]

There aren't any marquee OL. And that isn't the point.

If you are going to fix a problem, you give yourselves options.

It appears we are content with options like Marc Columbo and Jacob Rogers laugh2: ) for our issues at right tackle, instead of players like Kevin Barry or Tom Ashworth. That's a pretty dangerous game to play, particularly that we will be starting a sixth round pick there again who gave up the most sacks in football.

The original point I made was that Bentley and Hutchinson were pipe dreams.

I'm not sure what Ashworth or Barry have to do with that, but by all means bring them in. I haven't seen anything that either guy has either signed or even visisted yet with anyone.

However, as long as there isn't a full court press on these guys from someone else, the more advantageous it is to wait while other teams blow their cap wads on #3 WRs.

 

[Alexander]

^^we were leading the nfc east with pettiti starting so i agree with jerry and bills decisions so far.im sure they are going to get at least 2 more o linemen before the start of the season so im not worried.

We were also devoting a fullback and tight end to chip his man a good portion of the time.

If everyone expects a miracle as far as he is concerned, fine. I just don't happen to believe in miracles. I would rather have insurance in the case of a veteran. And if he is as good as you all say he is, then obviously, he will beat out his competition. Columbo and Rogers do not cut it. We could force a high draft pick, but the idea is generally to eliminate your glaring needs BEFORE the draft so you aren't forced into a pick or position early.

 

[Alexander]

The original point I made was that Bentley and Hutchinson were pipe dreams.

I'm not sure what Ashworth or Barry have to do with that, but by all means bring them in. I haven't seen anything that either guy has either signed or even visisted yet with anyone.

However, as long as there isn't a full court press on these guys from someone else, the more advantageous it is to wait while other teams blow their cap wads on #3 WRs.

Barry is going to Detroit. Ashworth has visited the Jets, Miami and Tampa Bay already.

It could be these players want nothing to do with us. It could also mean we haven't made any overtures. We just don't appear concerned about our tackle situation at all and that is a concern.

 

[MindReader]

i can't believe someone posted that offensive lineup and labeled it good. thats sad how us as fans have come to accept mediocrity. i ask this question every year and never get a straight answer, whats the point in being a bad team with tons of cap space? i agree we shouldnt take the skins approach but come on, we need to spend some unused cap money on a young talented FA like brandon lloyd.. not 32+ year olds that only last a couple years.

 

[wileedog]

Barry is going to Detroit. Ashworth has visited the Jets, Miami and Tampa Bay already.

It could be these players want nothing to do with us. It could also mean we haven't made any overtures. We just don't appear concerned about our tackle situation at all and that is a concern.

Thanks for the correction then

 

[Taz]

Oline, TO, and a Kicker is all I am asking for FS ain;t going to kill us and health henry and newman will be good enough as CBs safeys of Rwillams and some servicable scrub would work

 

[superpunk]

Any luck on that link, Alexander?

I've been wanting to find a site like that for a while now, but haven't been able to. Any help is appreciated.

 

[Alexander]

Any luck on that link, Alexander?

I've been wanting to find a site like that for a while now, but haven't been able to. Any help is appreciated.

It is stats.com or something like that. I have seen it posted here before.

 

[iceberg]

What other guys did you want?

Because there was no way we were going to beat out Cleveland for Bentley or Minnesota for Hutch. They flat out have way more money to spend than us, and Cleveland is Bentley's home town anyway.

What other 'marquee' name OLineman did we miss out on so far?

As for the Skins, so far they have paid top dollar and a couple of draft picks for tier 2 players. If that's what you are envious of, more power to you. We are still in a position to get similar quality players if need be, and possibly cheaper, adn I guarantee you we will be enjoying draft day a heck of a lot more than anyone in DC.

"no way" we were going to beat cleveland? this for the same bentley that philly had "all locked up"?

my point is we didn't even try and the 1 player we do go after no one's heard of and his shining accomplishment is to be called a "sleeper" in a weak FA period.

as for the draft, i'll worry about that draft day. this is FA period where you're supposed to fill gaps with what you can. to see us not even address the OL in a serious manner bugs me. if you're happy with it regressing - enjoy.

 

[superpunk]

It is stats.com or something like that. I have seen it posted here before.

If you can find it, or remember what context or thread it was mentioned in, so it can be searched, I'd appreciate it. I'd like to (a) check that Petitti did indeed lead the league in sacks given up by tackles, can't just take that on face value (b) see how many Tucker gave up, and compare the "per-game" ratio (c) Check on Kosier, as well.

edit; BTW, stats.com is a Fantasy football stat site - nothing about Oline on there.

 

[iceberg]

We just don't appear concerned about our tackle situation at all and that is a concern.

exactly. i hate the +1 stuff, but this is my point. we don't seem to be bothered by the incredible lack of a line last year (or is the line really ok and drew just makes it look bad?) or the coaches don't and yes, it bugs me when it's pretty much a given the game is "won or lost in the trenches".

so far our trench has back a center no one wants, a "sleeper" and is on the verge of our cornerstone larry allen going bye bye. if this doesn't bug you then i'm not sure what will.

yes, it's a long FA period and yes, other moves could be made. they have to be. but don't tell me we'll fix it in the draft as since parcells has been here we've not gotten jack shyte for our OL in the draft. how will he suddenly know how to pick the OL?

 

[wileedog]

"no way" we were going to beat cleveland? this for the same bentley that philly had "all locked up"?

Would you rather that was us who got the rug pulled out from under us?

Bentley said early in the process he wanted to go home to Cleveland. Cleveland stepped up and gave him the bucks. We would have had to beat that offer substantially. And even if we did Cleveland had room to match it again.

Sorry, that wasn't going to happen.

my point is we didn't even try and the 1 player we do go after no one's heard of and his shining accomplishment is to be called a "sleeper" in a weak FA period.

You really have no idea what we have tried or haven't tried.

as for the draft, i'll worry about that draft day. this is FA period where you're supposed to fill gaps with what you can. to see us not even address the OL in a serious manner bugs me. if you're happy with it regressing - enjoy.

Never said I was happy with the current state, and I hope they bring in Neal and Ashworth, among others.

But its Day 3.

 

[superpunk]

exactly. i hate the +1 stuff, but this is my point. we don't seem to be bothered by the incredible lack of a line last year (or is the line really ok and drew just makes it look bad?) or the coaches don't and yes, it bugs me when it's pretty much a given the game is "won or lost in the trenches".

so far our trench has back a center no one wants, a "sleeper" and is on the verge of our cornerstone larry allen going bye bye. if this doesn't bug you then i'm not sure what will.

yes, it's a long FA period and yes, other moves could be made. they have to be. but don't tell me we'll fix it in the draft as since parcells has been here we've not gotten jack shyte for our OL in the draft. how will he suddenly know how to pick the OL?

I don't condone the complacency, but if I may, present possible reasons for it? There is really only one, and that is the fact that this very same Oline, when healthy last year, protected Bledsoe well enough to be the NFC's top rated passer. It was also good enough, along with our stellar defensive play, to get us to 7-3, before all hell broke loose.

You mentioned to me earlier, you put stock in the continuity aspect as well. So, if they were that good when healthy last year, isn't it concievable that after a year of working together and an entire healthy offseason they could get significantly better? A yes or no answer would be appreciated - you either believe that can happen, or you don't.

If you answer yes, then I have to ask, "Why throw big dollars at a big name free agent?" Wouldn't the team be better served by stockpiling depth along the OL, while keeping the starting lineup in tact?

 

[kingwhicker]

It's a 9-7 team that just lost a key player (Glover). They picked up a young guard that I had never heard of. I don't know, but I don't think it's a very good team but I think it can get better through a good draft and the improvement of the young players- free agency is fool's gold, so I'm not worried about not signing other people's garbage.

 

[CowboyMark]

Look at our probable starters for next year(This is assuming that we sign Ayodele):

QB: Bledsoe
RB: Jones
TE: Witten
WR: Glenn
WR: Crayton
WR: Keyshawn
OT: Adams
OG: Allen
C: Johnson/Gurode
OG: Kosier
OT: Draft pick/ Pettiti

DE: Ellis/Canty
NT: Ferguson
DE: Spears
OLB: Ayodele
MLB: James
MLB: Burnett
OLB: Ware
CB: Newman
CB: Henry
SS: Williams
FS: Will likely sign someone or draft FS

Now, that is a pretty good team without any other additions. Assuming we will draft a starter at FS, LB, or OL, it will only get better. Lighten up, people.

If we were any good the boys would of won 12 games instead of 9 and won the super bowl. Seriously though, yes the boys are good but not great, yet. We still have holes to fill and until they are filled the boys will not contend for the division much less the super bowl.

 

[dfense]

Is the absence of Rivera on purpose?

 

[stilltheguru]

lol at people saying this is not a very good team.WOW

if healthy we wouldve made the playoffs last year.WERE ONLY GOING TO GET BETTER FOR CRYIN OUT LOUD.wth is with some of u?

 

[Alexander]

There is really only one, and that is the fact that this very same Oline, when healthy last year, protected Bledsoe well enough to be the NFC's top rated passer.

And is that the norm or the exception?

I don't understand that it can be assumed he just duplicates his first half performance simply because we are getting the left tackle back.