Some random thoughts this morning

[Boyzmamacita]

I think the truly bad miss was missing out on Jim Harbaugh. Could have absolutely had him. I think he would have been perfect for Romo.





YR

Jim Harbaugh hates the Dallas Cowboys. At least he did in his playing days with the Colts. I remember him taunting Cowboys fans after Indy had beaten Dallas at Texas Stadium. He was running toward the tunnel yelling "America's Team!" and grinning from ear to ear. He also expressed his dislike of the Cowboys on one of those cable NFL shows, HBO or Showtime I forget. I wonder if he would have put all of that aside to get his first pro coaching gig or would he vow never to coach for Jerry Jones and the Cowboys.

 

[mmohican29]

Jerry wanted Payton as the head coach, but Parcells was still around. And nobody in their right mind fires Parcells for Payton at that particular time. It probably would have killed any chance that Payton would have succeeded here.

Reid is a great coach *when* he has a great defense. When his defenses are decent, he isn't very good. That's why he crapped the bed once the late Jim Johnson passed away. Now he has a *great* defense again and he's able to manage that. We don't have a great defense.




YR

Very accurate. Reid sans Jim Johnson was a disaster, and I give it about three seasons before his poor talent evaluation skills erode the talent-laden Chiefs to as mediocre a team as the Garrett Cowboys are right now, with less flair for impossible losses of course.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Jim Harbaugh hates the Dallas Cowboys. At least he did in his playing days with the Colts. I remember him taunting Cowboys fans after Indy had beaten Dallas at Texas Stadium. He was running toward the tunnel yelling "America's Team!" and grinning from ear to ear. He also expressed his dislike of the Cowboys on one of those cable NFL shows, HBO or Showtime I forget. I wonder if he would have put all of that aside to get his first pro coaching gig or would he vow never to coach for Jerry Jones and the Cowboys.

Money talks, the other stuff takes a hike.

Particularly when you are trying to break into the league.

Guys like Harbaugh loathe having to go out and recruit players and give sales pitches.

Look, we heard the same thing from Parcells.

The money was right and he took the job.




YR

 

[kramskoi]

1. Ridiculous. It was an obvious holding call. A well-coached team has to know it can't afford any sloppy mistakes in that situation. That this sort of thing frequently happens with this team tells us how poorly coached it is.
2. Ridiculous. As I heard Ditka say this morning, I can't think of any circumstance in life where it's ok to act like Bryant was. You realize, there is a medium somewhere between the passive (non?) leadership of Ware and Witten, and Dez going psycho? Ditka said neither Landry nor Halas would've tolerated that. Bryant wasn't upset as much at losing (something he should be used to) as he was being upstaged by Johnson. If Dez had the game Johnson did and we had lost in the same manner, I doubt we see any outburst. He's becoming more like TO every year.
3. Can't disagree, although, double coverage or not, Johnson was getting open for many of those throws.

Well it ain't exactly a Landry, Ditka, Halas, Knoll league anymore is it?

He's not the great offensive mastermind that people set him out to be. He relied HEAVILY on the defense in Philly. Just like he is relying HEAVILY on the defense in KC. The offense is not really moving the ball around that well. But, they are not making turnovers and letting the defense do the work. McNabb didn't turn the ball over in Philly much either. For all of his faults, being turnover prone in Philly wasn't one of them.

Once Reid had to face coaches not named Campo, Spurrier and Fassel, the NFC East was a completely different story for him. And once he lost Jim Johnson, he was a mediocre coach.

Now...some coaches can't handle having a good defense. And some coaches don't really allow for the opposite side of the ball to have carte blanche on how they do things. I have to give Reid credit for that. But as a head coach I've never been wowed by him.




YR

Reid has a propensity for abandoning the running game, ala Payton, Garrett and few other teams who have high level quarterback play. It got him into trouble many times in Philadelphia. However, they were always near the top of FootballOutsiders offensive DVOA ratings. When they were good, they were good, even though McNabb never possessed a really high completion percentage. Starting with the pickle-juice game, I hated the hell out of him. Rhodes and Kotite were much preferred.

 

[Zman5]

I think the truly bad miss was missing out on Jim Harbaugh. Could have absolutely had him. I think he would have been perfect for Romo.





YR

Jim Harbaugh hates the Dallas Cowboys. At least he did in his playing days with the Colts. I remember him taunting Cowboys fans after Indy had beaten Dallas at Texas Stadium. He was running toward the tunnel yelling "America's Team!" and grinning from ear to ear. He also expressed his dislike of the Cowboys on one of those cable NFL shows, HBO or Showtime I forget. I wonder if he would have put all of that aside to get his first pro coaching gig or would he vow never to coach for Jerry Jones and the Cowboys.

Rox Ryan's dad Buddy hated the Cowboys as much as anyone. You don't think Rob grew up hating the Cowboys? It didn't stop Rob from working for Jerry.

 

[CalCBFan]

Jerry wanted Payton as the head coach, but Parcells was still around. And nobody in their right mind fires Parcells for Payton at that particular time. It probably would have killed any chance that Payton would have succeeded here.

Reid is a great coach *when* he has a great defense. When his defenses are decent, he isn't very good. That's why he crapped the bed once the late Jim Johnson passed away. Now he has a *great* defense again and he's able to manage that. We don't have a great defense.




YR

I like Andy Reid a lot, but you make a very good point, Yakuza...

 

[starfrombirth]

I think the truly bad miss was missing out on Jim Harbaugh. Could have absolutely had him. I think he would have been perfect for Romo.





YR

You know, I'm starting to come around to this kind of thinking. I like JG, I really do but I think it might be in a GM role more than coach. I like the personality of the lockeroom and the RKG mentality. I think he had done a good job of assembling talent. But they way we play down to our competition and not put people away when we have a chance, the inability to scheme/dictate our offense, the constant backfiring of offensive playcalling to cost us games. Once is a coincidence, twice is a trend, more than that is a failure or something like that. JG's gameday management isn't workinng. How he has built the team.. I'm ok with but not on gameday.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

You know, I'm starting to come around to this kind of thinking. I like JG, I really do but I think it might be in a GM role more than coach. I like the personality of the lockeroom and the RKG mentality. I think he had done a good job of assembling talent. But they way we play down to our competition and not put people away when we have a chance, the inability to scheme/dictate our offense, the constant backfiring of offensive playcalling to cost us games. Once is a coincidence, twice is a trend, more than that is a failure or something like that. JG's gameday management isn't workinng. How he has built the team.. I'm ok with but not on gameday.

I wouldn't hate Garrett as a GM because I think he understands what to look for in a *coach* and how an organization should be ran.

I really don't believe these coaches or even these scouts have this magical 'eye for talent.' I think it's about the Head Coach's ability to develop talent.

If you have ever been privy to scouts' draft boards after the draft is over, you start to see that almost the entire league has very similar grades on each player. You're not going to see 1 team with a player graded as a 6th rounder and another team grading him as a 2nd rounder. You might get 3-5 instances of that in an entire draft (and I may be overstating it).

So the talent is graded the same, but some teams just happen to get better talent.

Why?

Because their coaching staff is better at developing that talent.

For Garrett's faults, he does a good job of developing talent.





YR

 

[CATCH17]

I wouldn't hate Garrett as a GM because I think he understands what to look for in a *coach* and how an organization should be ran.

I really don't believe these coaches or even these scouts have this magical 'eye for talent.' I think it's about the Head Coach's ability to develop talent.

If you have ever been privy to scouts' draft boards after the draft is over, you start to see that almost the entire league has very similar grades on each player. You're not going to see 1 team with a player graded as a 6th rounder and another team grading him as a 2nd rounder. You might get 3-5 instances of that in an entire draft (and I may be overstating it).

So the talent is graded the same, but some teams just happen to get better talent.

Why?

Because their coaching staff is better at developing that talent.

For Garrett's faults, he does a good job of developing talent.





YR

The way Garrett coaches though it will be hard to be any better than 10-6 regardless of how good the roster is.

We should probably be 11-5 this year but his style of coaching will keep us closer to 8-8 or 9-7.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

The way Garrett coaches though it will be hard to be any better than 10-6 regardless of how good the roster is.

We should probably be 11-5 this year but his style of coaching will keep us closer to 8-8 or 9-7.

I agree with part of that.

Although we have been snake bitten by injuries.

4 D-Linemen down for the year. Now Waters out for the season.

Just amazing.





YR

 

[Chocolate Lab]

You know, I'm starting to come around to this kind of thinking. I like JG, I really do but I think it might be in a GM role more than coach.

I understand Stockholm Syndrome, but you know, nowhere is it mandated that he must stay around in some capacity.

 

[starfrombirth]

I understand Stockholm Syndrome, but you know, nowhere is it mandated that he must stay around in some capacity.

Jason is Jerry's illegitimate love child and as long as some positive's continue (and they have) then Jerry will give him every chance. We have had some historically bad moments on this team recently but to be fair they have been on an injury riddled defense. Have you ever seen a defense get hit with injuries like we have for 2 years in a row? It's a built in excuse for Jason. The problem is that everyone has nothing but respect for how hard our dline is playinng in spite of the injuries. Also Jerry, I don't believe, is asking the same things we, as fans, ask: How come Dez can't get designed routes to get open. Remember early in the game how we mostly had CJ covered? Remember how Detroit adjusted? Jerry won't ask, "How come we can't do that for Dez?". If he did, I think Jason would have some 'splainin to do lucy!"

 

[SultanOfSix]

I agree with part of that.

Although we have been snake bitten by injuries.

4 D-Linemen down for the year. Now Waters out for the season.

Just amazing.

YR

Sometimes injuries are just luck.

Other times there is probably a strong correlation, if not causation, due to the way you play, e.g. if your team is scoring when it needs to and the defense is staying off the field by stopping the opposition, there is less chance for injury. So if you're good, you're also less injury prone. Such seemed to be the nature of the Cowboys during the run of the '90s.