Some strong reminders on behalf of our great forum

Jake

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It’s the off-season and the summer heat seems to make too many of our fellow Cowboy fans in this great forum post up here with a chip on the shoulder and in constant arguing and attack mode. A forum like this is built on everyone getting to post their opinions and views on all things Cowboys, but within the rules we ALL agreed to follow when we signed up here.

A few simple reminders to make this place more civil and inhabitable:
  • This Is an opinion FORUM which means a variety of opinions about the Cowboys are welcome and encouraged as long as they are within the rules we have here.
  • A difference of opinion is welcome and part of what makes this place great. A disagreement with your opinion doesn’t make someone a bad Cowboys fan. Or deserving of someone’s wrath or insults.
  • If after stating your position multiple times and someone still disagrees with you, let it go. Agree to disagree. Constantly arguing your point over and over will most likely not convince the other side.In fact it usually starts unnecessary fights. You’ve made your point. Let it go.
  • Mods are human. And they are volunteers doing the best they can to keep this place between the lines. There are thousands of posts made every day and we don’t always catch everything. Sometimes we miss things. Sometimes we have to take action because of rules violations. It’s not personal. Let’s work together.
  • If you are angry with someone here, take a break. Go to a different thread. If you feel angry enough to insult someone you need to either go to a different thread or log off for a while.
In my life experiences, I’ve never known anyone who insulted their way to either changing someone’s mind or earning themselves any more respect.
We are a week from TC and just 7 weeks from the start of the regular season. Here‘s to another exciting Cowboys season on the best fan sports forum out there. WHAT MAKES IT GREAT IS OUR RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER AS COWBOYS FANS.

LETS GO COWBOYS!
@Bobhaze I'm getting sick and tired of you being a voice of reason here.

Training camp opens next week. Let the games begin. :popcorn:
 

JoeKing

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It’s the off-season and the summer heat seems to make too many of our fellow Cowboy fans in this great forum post up here with a chip on the shoulder and in constant arguing and attack mode. A forum like this is built on everyone getting to post their opinions and views on all things Cowboys, but within the rules we ALL agreed to follow when we signed up here.

A few simple reminders to make this place more civil and inhabitable:
  • This Is an opinion FORUM which means a variety of opinions about the Cowboys are welcome and encouraged as long as they are within the rules we have here.
  • A difference of opinion is welcome and part of what makes this place great. A disagreement with your opinion doesn’t make someone a bad Cowboys fan. Or deserving of someone’s wrath or insults.
  • If after stating your position multiple times and someone still disagrees with you, let it go. Agree to disagree. Constantly arguing your point over and over will most likely not convince the other side.In fact it usually starts unnecessary fights. You’ve made your point. Let it go.
  • Mods are human. And they are volunteers doing the best they can to keep this place between the lines. There are thousands of posts made every day and we don’t always catch everything. Sometimes we miss things. Sometimes we have to take action because of rules violations. It’s not personal. Let’s work together.
  • If you are angry with someone here, take a break. Go to a different thread. If you feel angry enough to insult someone you need to either go to a different thread or log off for a while.
In my life experiences, I’ve never known anyone who insulted their way to either changing someone’s mind or earning themselves any more respect.
We are a week from TC and just 7 weeks from the start of the regular season. Here‘s to another exciting Cowboys season on the best fan sports forum out there. WHAT MAKES IT GREAT IS OUR RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER AS COWBOYS FANS.

LETS GO COWBOYS!
I appreciate your wise words. This reminder is very welcomed in my opinion. We'll debate later. :cool:
 

Diehardblues

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We appreciate these reminders . This is an awesome managed forum. And we are so pleased those as you have become volunteers to assist in meditating . We should know as refugees from a failed forum which got out of hand for much of these same causes. It’s a shame we have a few extremes that resort to such conduct on a regular basis and often spark others to respond as such.

Perhaps we can begin making examples by a permanent or long term benching for a handful of members . I’m sure this forum would continue to flourish and possibly encourage others to participate after cleansing the forum of a few bad apples.

Other social media sites ban or suspend members access to contribute like Twitter and Facebook. It’s only a handful or two of regular abusers. I think the word would get around rather quickly to shape up or ship out. Forced discipline is used in most business to further enforce company policies and standards .

I’m all for giving everyone a second chance but I’d suggest giving them a fair warning if their conduct persist to expect a long suspension initially and if it continues a ban for an extended time or longer.

No telling how many fans we have here who basically refrain from participating as a result of the conduct from a few.

That’s my 2 cents. Thanks for listening!!
 
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SteveTheCowboy

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I used to be one of those posters who would just argue relentlessly even if I knew I didn't have the stronger position.
It was just pride and not wanting to concede.
And all it does is make people hate you. And as a follower of Christ, my job is not to irritate people out of pride. I also need to act like the one who I say I follow.
So, I hope I've grown to a place where even though I debate with others, I can concede and not just go on and on and on because I MUST be right.
And I've found that I get much more respect that way and debates end gracefully and respectfully.
We're all Cowboys fans - at least I think we are. And I would hope we ultimately want to win no matter who is at quarterback or coach or owner.
I was just listening to a pastor on the radio....calling us Christians out for this very thing. The condescending tone and judgement we sometimes have (that most people have of course). The "I'm right and you MUST be wrong" attitude. One of the most important things Jesus warned us against.


Most of what we talk about here are opinions...even when using (or abusing) stats. It's usually not a right or wrong thing....although sometimes they might make you go hmmm? The great majority of us are "in the middle"....not out on the wings. We should celebrate that...instead of finding the scab and picking it to a bloody mess.

In the end...grace does win. Grace and wisdom.
 

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You’re entitled to your opinion.
Star and I used to fight too. We still do sometimes, in a (mostly) fun way.

We are mature and civil enough to put it behind us...mostly. I even took that (mostly) good-natured ribbing you just replied to.

Some aren't built like that. Just one grudge after another. Keep picking the scab to bloody bits.
 

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Kindness and respect for others are fading from our society.

And it is not up to others to save them.

The creation of the internet has not improved us but allowed some of the darker sides of people to emerge. They seek their gain through the losses of others.
 

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Kindness and respect for others are fading from our society.

And it is not up to others to save them.

The creation of the internet has not improved us but allowed some of the darker sides of people to emerge. They seek their gain through the losses of others.
The practice of insulting people has become so prevalent on-line it has practically become a dark sport. A faceless Internet forum somehow allows some people to insult and demean someone they don’t know at all in a way they would never do if the encounter was “face to face”.

As good as the World Wide Web has been to speed up and widen communication, it has also enabled and encouraged a segment of society that finds “owning” someone in an argument somehow aspirational.

It’s on all of us to individually take responsibility for how we interact with people online- here in the Zone specifically.
 

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The practice of insulting people has become so prevalent on-line it has practically become a dark sport. A faceless Internet forum somehow allows some people to insult and demean someone they don’t know at all in a way they would never do if the encounter was “face to face”.

As good as the World Wide Web has been to speed up and widen communication, it has also enabled and encouraged a segment of society that finds “owning” someone in an argument somehow aspirational.

It’s on all of us to individually take responsibility for how we interact with people online- here in the Zone specifically.
youre not wrong prior to the internet these discussions were in bar rooms and elswhere face to face. Some people may act the way they do here in face to encounters but id venture to say the % is lower. And of that % they may regret it.

Mike Tyson once posted on social media, "Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it.". Now I dont think thats a high % in here but I know it happens. I can be guilty at times of letting emotions get involved but usually im laid back.

My parents were pretty big on the "Golden Rule"
 

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I was just listening to a pastor on the radio....calling us Christians out for this very thing. The condescending tone and judgement we sometimes have (that most people have of course). The "I'm right and you MUST be wrong" attitude. One of the most important things Jesus warned us against.


Most of what we talk about here are opinions...even when using (or abusing) stats. It's usually not a right or wrong thing....although sometimes they might make you go hmmm? The great majority of us are "in the middle"....not out on the wings. We should celebrate that...instead of finding the scab and picking it to a bloody mess.

In the end...grace does win. Grace and wisdom.
Amen!

When you back people in a corner and don't allow them an exit, they fight. Even when they're wrong and they know they're wrong, they'll fight you tooth and nail because they don't want you to be right, and they're not going to give you the satisfaction.

I've noticed most places I go on the Internet, when I'm in a debate or contrary discussion, if I concede (meaning if I at least acknowledge the validity of a person's position or acknowledge that I understand where they're coming from), usually, others will concede in some way. Maybe they won't agree totally with me (which rarely happens), but they'll say something like, "I understand where you're coming from, even if I still disagree with you" or "I appreciate your willingness to be civil and not spiteful in this conversation," etc.

I've found a satisfaction in trying to get contrary conversations to that point. I'm trying to ditch my pride, which has gotten me in a lot of trouble in my life. I'm starting to see the wisdom in being humble. It's a burden to be unnecessarily at odds with EVERYBODY! That's why the Good Book says "Seek peace and pursue it."

You can't be at peace when you're constantly at odds with others (I speak more about meaningless squabbles than matters of moral and personal convictions. And even then, you don't have to be obnoxious with others even if you have moral convictions.).
 
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