Somebody in charge (even Wade) should step up and answer this: Why is RW a starter

[Eskimo]

In all serious, if you just invested $45 million in someone/something you are going to give that investment every opportunity before you pull the plug.

I have been a huge RW supporter and I am still holding out that he is going to be ok. I will admit the initial return on the investment has not been what I expected or wanted.

Regardless NFL owners don't make a habit of flushing $45 million in the toilet after not even a full season.

Only $20 million was guaranteed.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Yes, we get that you don't like Roy Williams and will make ridiculous statements in order to express your dislike.

Dear Mr. Obviously:

It's always the other guy making the ridiculous comment, right?
And never you.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

 

[gbrittain]

Only $20 million was guaranteed.

So do you honestly think that Jerry or any other owner is willing to flush $20 million after not even a full season?

 

[Eskimo]

So do you honestly think that Jerry or any other owner is willing to flush $20 million after not even a full season?

It has basically been a full season now.

What he chooses to do with his money is his business, but I do think it is in the best interests of the Dallas Cowboys to divorce themselves from Roy Williams.

 

[gbrittain]

It has basically been a full season now.

What he chooses to do with his money is his business, but I do think it is in the best interests of the Dallas Cowboys to divorce themselves from Roy Williams.

Exactly. He will be a Cowboy beyond this year.

 

[Eskimo]

Exactly. He will be a Cowboy beyond this year.

Time will tell - many thought Jerry would also refuse to release TO given how close the two of them bad become. Jerry made the decision that was in the best interest of the Cowboys and I hope he will do so again and release Roy Williams (unless Roy completely turns his life and career around - I don't think he is past the point of no return as he still has good health and youth on his side).

 

[theogt]

Time will tell - many thought Jerry would also refuse to release TO given how close the two of them bad become. Jerry made the decision that was in the best interest of the Cowboys and I hope he will do so again and release Roy Williams (unless Roy completely turns his life and career around - I don't think he is past the point of no return as he still has good health and youth on his side).

If Roy Williams were 35 years old, you'd have a great point.

But he's not. So you don't.

 

[Eskimo]

If Roy Williams were 35 years old, you'd have a great point.

But he's not. So you don't.

They were both players in decline - TO happened to begin his decline later than most due to his unusual level of dedication to training.

Roy Williams seems to have begun his at an unusually young age. I would agree that as he has suffered no major injuries, there is no physical reason that he should not be at his peak right now at age 27. Given that he put up a 1300 yard season at age 24, there was reason to believe he might be capable of becoming an elite #1 type of WR - the sort of guy who can peak at around 1500-1700 yards/season and maybe 10-12 TDs. But it didn't happen and it shows no sign of happening this year. This despite the fact he plays with a Pro Bowl QB who is re-writing all the Cowboys passing records and looks to be one of the statistically most efficient passers of the modern era.

At some point you have to stop questioning the data and just accept it for what it is. Nearly two years is plenty of time to judge a player in his mid-20s. If he hasn't turned it around by the end of the season, the chances that he is ever going to are extremely slim.

 

[theogt]

They were both players in decline - TO happened to begin his decline later than most due to his unusual level of dedication to training.

Roy Williams seems to have begun his at an unusually young age. I would agree that as he has suffered no major injuries, there is no physical reason that he should not be at his peak right now at age 27. Given that he put up a 1300 yard season at age 24, there was reason to believe he might be capable of becoming an elite #1 type of WR - the sort of guy who can peak at around 1500-1700 yards/season and maybe 10-12 TDs. But it didn't happen and it shows no sign of happening this year. This despite the fact he plays with a Pro Bowl QB who is re-writing all the Cowboys passing records and looks to be one of the statistically most efficient passers of the modern era.

At some point you have to stop questioning the data and just accept it for what it is. Nearly two years is plenty of time to judge a player in his mid-20s. If he hasn't turned it around by the end of the season, the chances that he is ever going to are extremely slim.

This is just absurd. Yes, he's some physical phenomenon that his body has begun to decline at the age of 25, when most other NFL players begin to start hitting their stride.

You have to see where it's very hard to take you seriously on this topic.

 

[JBond]

I am requesting a three day moratorium on Roy sucks threads.

Please for the love of all that is good and decent, stop the endless Roy threads.

 

[theogt]

I am requesting a three day moratorium on Roy sucks threads.

Please for the love of all that is good and decent, stop the endless Roy threads.

Let's do the time warp again!

 

[Eskimo]

I am requesting a three day moratorium on Roy sucks threads.

Please for the love of all that is good and decent, stop the endless Roy threads.

I didn't begin any of them and would be happy to shut up about the whole thing and let the season play out.

However, the moment I see the Roy defenders come out I feel the need to chirp in.

I actually went a very long time without complaining about Roy. It was that video clip after Miles exploded on the Chiefs and Roy dismissed his performance and wouldn't address the reporter's question about Miles' emergence opening things up for the rest of the team that started to get me going again.

Anyhow, I doubt either side of the debate can keep their yaps shut. It's a nice thought though.

 

[Eskimo]

This is just absurd. Yes, he's some physical phenomenon that his body has begun to decline at the age of 25, when most other NFL players begin to start hitting their stride.

You have to see where it's very hard to take you seriously on this topic.

Who said it had anything to do with physical decline. It clearly does not in Roy's case. I think he's just not willing to work hard anymore - he just wants to do enough to earn his paycheque and go home so he can count his stacks of money.

 

[theogt]

Who said it had anything to do with physical decline. It clearly does not in Roy's case. I think he's just not willing to work hard anymore - he just wants to do enough to earn his paycheque and go home so he can count his stacks of money.

What's your evidence of him not working hard?

Did he attend less work outs? Did he not work out as hard when he does show up to work out? Does he practice less? Does he not try hard in practice? Did you attend training camp to see any of this?

Of course, you don't have an answer to any of these questions because you aren't there and they're not reported on in the newsmedia. So your opinion is just nonsense based on NOTHING but the fact that you've convinced yourself he's lazy.

 

[Eskimo]

What's your evidence of him not working hard?

Did he attend less work outs? Did he not work out as hard when he does show up to work out? Does he practice less? Does he not try hard in practice? Did you attend training camp to see any of this?

Of course, you don't have an answer to any of these questions because you aren't there and they're not reported on in the newsmedia. So your opinion is just nonsense based on NOTHING but the fact that you've convinced yourself he's lazy.

No, I can tell by his play on the field. He still can't run his routes properly which is proof enough to me that he is not practicing enough or working hard enough to improve his game.

When he starts to show dedication like guys that Irvin and Rice showed, I'm sure he'll be successful. I don't think he is willing to do it though - everything came too easy in life for a guy like him.

Now that the rest of the league has caught on that he can only run 3 routes, they can really sit on them. He generates almost no separation when locked up against CBs in man coverage. The only times he ever seems to be open is when he is up against zones.

 

[theogt]

No, I can tell by his play on the field.

That is the most laughable thing I've ever heard you say.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

So I ax again this week: Why is RW still our starting receiver opposte Austin?

Is it his production? Reputation? Does jerra equate greatness with the money he paid for that player?

WHY IS RW STILL A STARTER???

 

[Doomsday101]

So I ax again this week: Why is RW still our starting receiver opposte Austin?

Is it his production? Reputation? Does jerra equate greatness with the money he paid for that player?

WHY IS RW STILL A STARTER???

Because they think if they can get him going his upside will be a big boost to this team. I make no excuses for RW lack of production but Dallas did make a big commitment to him when they signed him and they will do everything they possibly can to make this work.

 

[Arch Stanton]

Did we lose?