Sounds like Romo is pretty serious about trying to suit up this Sunday

[Idgit]

I would guess that it's coming from the thought of Romo injurying himself further. I don't really believe this is about Weeden. I think it's more about concerns over Romo for the rest of the season. Just a guess on my part.

That makes sense. For my part, I've decided without much evidence that he's got a bruised or lacerated kidney and that that's what this has been about. I'm assuming if he's medically cleared to play that it's because it's not something where they think he's at a heightened risk for a more serious injury. I agree that they'd be unlikely to play him with a ruptured kidney if they thought one more hit could lead to some serious time off. But if it's a bruise that just hurts like the devil, he'll be out there with a pain injection and an extra pad.

 

[CowboyStar88]

Dirty I just gave a Commanders fan a like

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

And I would agree that is why the nature of the injury is key. If this is a deep bruise then really not concern about further damage. People are making prognosis on what is wrong when they do not know, team has said it has nothing to do with the procedure he had on his back.

I don't agree with this at all. It doesn't really matter if it's a different injury or not. It also doesn't matter if it's just deep bruise or tissue. The real concern should be his ability to actually move and throw. Against Az, I believe we will see more all out blitz packages and if that is the case, there are certain routes you will have to be able to throw. If he can't do this accurately, then it makes no sense to subject him to further punishment. Some of these routes, he wasn't able to throw real well before Monday's game. I think you have to be concerned with how Romo will respond and exactly what he can do. There is no question, he will want to play but I think it's risky to subject him to hits if he is not physically able to do the things required to beat this defense. Obviously, we don't know if he can or if he can't make those throws right now but I do think it's more then just about his back or his previous injury. A deep bruise is definitely a concern if it prevents him from being able to execute the offense needed.

 

[JoeKing]

This has nothing to do with ego, This is what football players do this is what guys like Don Meredith did and many others who have played this game. This is not pee wee football or some video game. If Tony can play he will but it has nothing to do with stroking his ego.

We obviously disagree... also Romo is the toughest SOB in the league and no one has the guts to tell him "no".

 

[dfense]

It's pretty clear that the guy is going to play.

And where's all this Weeden love coming from? He looked good in a game in the preseason, too, then came back to earth.

Also, the Skins didn't come after Weeden in the game like they did Romo. On his completion to Witten, there was not a Skin within 10 yards of him.

 

[Staubacher]

And I would agree that is why the nature of the injury is key. If this is a deep bruise then really not concern about further damage. People are making prognosis on what is wrong when they do not know, team has said it has nothing to do with the procedure he had on his back.

If it's his kidney he should sit. That's not an organ you want to mess with.

 

[mldardy]

I've said this all week but I would play Romo in this game because of the importance of it and then let Weedon play against Jacksonville giving Romo 3 weeks of rest. But I guess since Romo plays this week he's probably going to want to play against Jacksonville as well and then rest for 2 weeks. I just feel like we can get by with no Romo against Jacksonville and use him in emergency only.

 

[Doomsday101]

If it's his kidney he should sit. That's not an organ you want to mess with.

again IF, I agree IF is an issue that could cause more problem then he should sit but this is why you have a medical staff at your disposal. If on the other hand it is a bruise then why would I not play my starting QB? People are coming up with their own diagnosis and have no real information to be making one.

 

[Doomsday101]

We obviously disagree... also Romo is the toughest SOB in the league and no one has the guts to tell him "no".

I don't think that is true at all. They have said the issue is only one of dealing with pain x-ray and cat scans have checked out. If Romo is limited then I don't play him if it is a bruise you don't keep a guy out over that. Fact is we don't know all facts as to what is the problem all we have been told is it is a contusion in other words a deep bruise.

 

[Sportsbabe]

Sorry, but I'd say this is not so very obvious. In fact, it's very much not the case. Brandon's still working on QB fundamentals for operating an offense under center, and Tony sees the field as well as anybody in the NFL.

If your starter can start, you start him. If he's ineffective because of the pain, you can always go to your backup later. You're not going to start Weeden and then have Tony on the bench ready to come in if he struggles, so that leaves you with Vaughan active this week. No thanks.

It's moot, anyway, because if he's medically cleared to play, you know that Tony's going to play. Personally, I love that. It's what makes him a great QB, and you have to take the good with the bad. He's not the type who's going to hurt his team if his play is compromised. He is the type who's going to go out there if he possibly can. He's a beast. And when your QB does that, it sends a message to the rest of the team how important the game is to him. Overall, that's a really good thing to have happen at some point during a season.

And I'll just say again that I'm really surprised how many people want to start Weeden over Romo--even for a week. I just don't see it.

I'm not surprised at all. I've been here long enough to see the Zone all over the place. I'm just disappointed that we think Tony would jeapordize this team's potential to do something great this year by playing when he's not capable of being productive and leading this team to victory.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Against a zero coverage scheme, the routes that are most effective are the inside release slants, the deep go routes, any throws to the backs and the inside seam route. All of these are very good routes for Weeden. They are easy to identify and he has the kind of arm to get the ball there with enough velocity to beat the coverage. He just has to be accurate and he has to be able to identify the advantage.

Tony is probably smarter, more athletic, more elusive, much more experienced and normally more accurate but what Weeden has over Tony is arm. In those types of routes, arm strength is very effective if you can be accurate. I would also guess, like many others, that the game plan for Weeden would not be as open to change as it would be with Tony. I'm sure Weeden can audible but I would guess that there would be more control of that and that he would not be as likely to do so. This lends itself to a more run oriented offensive game plan, if our coaches have a lick of sense. That was probably the most frustrating thing about the Washington game. The Skins are not very good against the run. We will not have that luxury with Az, they are very good against the run. Will be interesting to see if we stick to our strength in this game.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Also, the Skins didn't come after Weeden in the game like they did Romo. On his completion to Witten, there was not a Skin within 10 yards of him.

Agree. It seemed pretty obvious that they were playing to stop the run and short patterns as soon as Weeden went in.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I'm not surprised at all. I've been here long enough to see the Zone all over the place. I'm just disappointed that we think Tony would jeapordize this team's potential to do something great this year by playing when he's not capable of being productive and leading this team to victory.

I don't know that I would chacterize it that way. Any player worth their salt is going to want to play, injured or no. I would not have a player who didn't want to play, regardless. I don't fault Tony for this, I would fault him if he didn't want to play, but that doesn't mean that he should. It means that he's a gamer and that's not a bad thing.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Agree. It seemed pretty obvious that they were playing to stop the run and short patterns as soon as Weeden went in.

It will be more difficult for Weeden against Az. This defense is much better then Washington's and Az will prepare for both Weeden and Romo. In the Washington game, that defense probably was not familiar with the capabilities of Weeden and as such, had no real intel on what he could and could not do. Az will understand his strengths and limitations. They will know that he can zip the ball on the inside release to beat the coverage and they will know that he does have the arm strength to complete the Go routes past 40 yards etc.

 

[JoeKing]

I don't think that is true at all. They have said the issue is only one of dealing with pain x-ray and cat scans have checked out. If Romo is limited then I don't play him if it is a bruise you don't keep a guy out over that. Fact is we don't know all facts as to what is the problem all we have been told is it is a contusion in other words a deep bruise.

I told you we obviously disagree. With medical clearance, Romo will play no matter what... to hell with if that is good or bad for the team.

 

[links18]

I really think people are making a mistake thinking Haslett was not going to blitz the daylights out of Weeden on that goal line series, too. Or that Weeden was going to somehow be better at handling those protection breakdowns than Tony was.

Sunday was not one of Tony's better games. It was pretty much one of his stinkers. But all QBs have those a time or two each season. That's not how you decide who to play. You decide who to play based off of who's the better QB overall. If the clearly better player is hurt, then you have to factor in how much his game might be compromised, but I didn't think Tony's issues on Monday were mostly physical, anyway. He looked like he just wasn't reading the blitzes very well that night. 99 nights out of 100, that's not going to be the case.

He was clearly hobbled and a little discombobulated when he came back in, but no--that isn't a guarantee Weeden would have driven the field.

 

[JohnsKey19]

I'm sure it's inspiring to other players to see what the top paid guy is willing to go through to play; however, it feels like they're really pushing Romo's limits at this point. It might be better to just start Weeden for this game.

I think Romo himself is pushing it. That's been his MO. He's proven throughout his career to play through pain and conditions some players would not. I believe the team officials, medical staff and others need to step in and deactivate him. I'm sure Romo can play and be effective to some extent but sometimes it's wise to give an injury or bruised body part more time to heal up for future games.

 

[Doomsday101]

I told you we obviously disagree. With medical clearance, Romo will play no matter what... to hell with if that is good or bad for the team.

How is that to hell with the team? lol because your starting QB checked out and outside of some pain is able to play? You act as if this is a major injury and right now there is nothing to back that up.

 

[JohnsKey19]

I thought that was his spin move.

Notice how Merriweather Monday night sat on that spin move Monday night. That showed good coaching and a player who paid attention in practice.

 

[mahoneybill]

I'm sure it's inspiring to other players to see what the top paid guy is willing to go through to play; however, it feels like they're really pushing Romo's limits at this point. It might be better to just start Weeden for this game.

Start weeds . Have tony ready if he healthy enough as the backup. Decide in game if he's acty needed. Some will disagree but to me that's. Viable alternative