Sounds like Romo is pretty serious about trying to suit up this Sunday

JoeKing

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Not really Cowboys and Garret have said how he is able to move around will still determine what they will do. He has said Weeden is ready to go if Romo can't. They will give him every chance to get himself ready but then that is not a Cowboy thing or a Garrett thing that is pretty common around the league.

You are just repeating yourself and I'm telling you, none of that matters. If Romo gets the medical staffs blessing, there is nothing else that will stop him.
 

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You're right about guessing games. Because we don't know. All i have to go off of is what i saw just a few nights ago and the fact he has not practiced this week. I even mentioned in a different thread how noone will truly know how bad or limited Romo is until or if we see him Sunday at 100. There are probably 5-10 people in Valley Ranch who truly know what the deal is with Romo and severity of injury, pain involved and how physically limited he is. Everyone else is left to guess. If we on this board didn't guess, approximate, predict and what-have-you, 75% of the content here would not even exist.

All true but then being honest can you really make any decision without that real information? Really all I have stressed.
Way I see it, if Romo is not responding well and is showing he is limited, then if it is my call I sit him. If he is able to move well and is showing some good zip on passes and feels he can go then he plays.
 

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He was clearly hobbled and a little discombobulated when he came back in, but no--that isn't a guarantee Weeden would have driven the field.

He was definitely tender. I don't know about discombobulated. I don't recall him missing any obvious open receivers after he came back in. I remember most the blown blitz pickup by Murray backed up against the goal line that could have lost the game for us, and the drop by Witten on third down in OT that could have extended the drive. For the most part, though, those drives at the end of regulation and in OT, I don't recall seeing a lot of open receivers or remember thinking Tony was getting much time to make something happen.

Honestly, we said before the week that the Skins game had trap written on it. Sandwiched between the Giants and the Cardinals. If you think about it, both Murray and Randle had costly turnovers. Dez dropped a TD by letting an on-target ball get into his pads. Witten dropped the 3rd down conversion I mentioned above. Even Terrence had a chance to make a big play on that downfield throw into single coverage that hit him in the hands (it would have been a nice catch, but that was a makable play). Tony blew identifying a couple protections and held the ball too long, and had his usual problems with Haslett (at least he took good care with the ball). Martin gave up a sack on a fairly simple twist. On defense, maybe our two best tacklers in McClain and Church had their worst tackling days of the season. Moore was exposed downfield a couple times in coverage. I really think this was a case of the team not playing very well, and it being against a division rival. And it still went to overtime when it didn't really have to be that close.

I'm not really worried about this being a trend. And if you look at Sturm's (outstanding) breakdown of the sacks given up, it's hard to get too concerned that WAS did anything we can't adjust to. In fact, as Frederick said earlier in the week, in a backwards way, it might be a good thing that this issue was exposed early enough in the season for it to be easily corrected because it's not anything the blocking scheme can't accommodate.

All that's a long way of saying that I want Romo being the guy identifying and setting the protections, and that I think the game on Monday was more an aberration or a learning experience than it was a sign of this offense turning back into a pumpkin. I guess we'll see here in about 48 hours.
 

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He was definitely tender. I don't know about discombobulated. I don't recall him missing any obvious open receivers after he came back in. I remember most the blown blitz pickup by Murray backed up against the goal line that could have lost the game for us, and the drop by Witten on third down in OT that could have extended the drive. For the most part, though, those drives at the end of regulation and in OT, I don't recall seeing a lot of open receivers or remember thinking Tony was getting much time to make something happen.

Honestly, we said before the week that the Skins game had trap written on it. Sandwiched between the Giants and the Cardinals. If you think about it, both Murray and Randle had costly turnovers. Dez dropped a TD by letting an on-target ball get into his pads. Witten dropped the 3rd down conversion I mentioned above. Even Terrence had a chance to make a big play on that downfield throw into single coverage that hit him in the hands (it would have been a nice catch, but that was a makable play). Tony blew identifying a couple protections and held the ball too long, and had his usual problems with Haslett (at least he took good care with the ball). Martin gave up a sack on a fairly simple twist. On defense, maybe our two best tacklers in McClain and Church had their worst tackling days of the season. Moore was exposed downfield a couple times in coverage. I really think this was a case of the team not playing very well, and it being against a division rival. And it still went to overtime when it didn't really have to be that close.

I'm not really worried about this being a trend. And if you look at Sturm's (outstanding) breakdown of the sacks given up, it's hard to get too concerned that WAS did anything we can't adjust to. In fact, as Frederick said earlier in the week, in a backwards way, it might be a good thing that this issue was exposed early enough in the season for it to be easily corrected because it's not anything the blocking scheme can't accommodate.

All that's a long way of saying that I want Romo being the guy identifying and setting the protections, and that I think the game on Monday was more an aberration or a learning experience than it was a sign of this offense turning back into a pumpkin. I guess we'll see here in about 48 hours.
Seriously, almost the entire offense was garbage that game. Can't really judge anything from it.
 

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I don't think it's as much love as we don't want to see Romo get hurt any further and that Weeden at 100% is probably better than Romo at 50%. He did play pretty well against Washington, too.

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I agree that, if Romo's at a heightened risk of injury by playing this week, we'll probably sit him. But I don't think he'll be at a heightened risk of injury. I think he's in a lot of pain, but that it's not related to his back and that he's going to pad up and play through it.

Not sure of your proportions, but I'd still take a significantly compromised Tony Romo over a healthy Brandon Weeden. And I especially take compromised Romo/healthy Weeden over healthy Weeden/healthy Vaughan.
 

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I would rather a 100% Weeden versus a limited Romo. Weeden could play this week and next week and Romo would get close to a month to recover when you include the bye week.
 

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I'm not in love with the Weed, but with Romo sporting a double flack jacket, doped-up on pain meds, and shying away from pressure, you have to wonder who will be more effective.

Not sure. Romo looked pretty good in the San Fran game where he was playing with a punctured lung and against the Commanders last year despite hurting his back, leading a come-from-behind victory.

He didn't look good in this one given two final drives where the pressure ate him up and the offense didn't do the things necessary to alleviate that pressure.
 

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Weeden obviously see's things on the field Romo does not. Like the witten TD, we haven't seen a play like that in a while. Sure Romo makes wayyyyyyyyy more amazing plays. It just seems weeden might see the field better/not scared to let it go.

Actually, in the preseason, Weeden didn't see the field very well at all. I was expecting that Weeden when he stepped in against the Commanders, but instead he looked like an NFL quarterback.
 

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If sore but not injured, he should try to play. Doesn't sound like playing will cause further injury but instead just a matter of discomfort. If so, need our best out there. 6-2 doesn't happen often around here. Need to find a win and then another and so on. No real reason to save him for something else down the road if there is no injury that can be worsened.
 

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not sure of your proportions, but I'd still take a significantly compromised Tony Romo over a healthy Brandon Weeden. And I especially take compromised Romo/healthy Weeden over healthy Weeden/healthy Vaughan.

I wouldn't take a significantly compromised Romo over a healthy Weeden. Romo has to use his mobility to find passing lanes (as Parcells said, when he gets in trouble, usually it's poor footwork that does him in) and he uses his feet to get outside of the pocket and do damage. Plus, the play action requires proper footwork to pull off. Just from our experience, when Romo was badly banged up (2008 in particular), it wasn't pretty. We had Brad Johnson at that time who stunk to high heaven. Weeden at least has a very good arm and can push the ball downfield and threaten with Dez and Williams and open the running game for DeMarco.

Anything less than 70% Romo and I really would prefer Weeden in there.




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Exactly we have people here sitting him based on what? Sure as hell is not real information. I don't want Romo to suffer any major injury and I'm sure if the team feels he is at a risk they will not play him. However part of playing football even in the high school level you find out early the difference between hurt and injured and how to deal with pain
Yes, it's comical that people "know" what should be done but don't even know the details of his condition. Some people here should go into business as internet Doctors.
 

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It's pretty clear that the guy is going to play.

And where's all this Weeden love coming from? He looked good in a game in the preseason, too, then came back to earth.

No love there, just don't want to lose Tony for the year and squander this season.
 
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