Sources: Dallas Cowboys offer Barber deal for $30 million

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I would rather pay Mike Lowell from Boston Red Sox MORE money than he is worth - in return he hits well in playoffs and helps win world series and gets the MVP. In Summary = PRODUCTION (when it counts)

OVER AROD getting all that money and blowing chunks in the playoffs....

Oh by the way... I am a die hard Yankee fan.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2039223 said:
Honestly if the boys are thinking about signing him for 30 million thats a mistake. Let's look at the facts MB3 is back up RB that made the pro bowl. He isn't all pro at the RB position. He hasn't even broken 1,000 yards yet. This isn't the inflated free agency period where everyone gets paid more than their worth. If he wants more money tell him to go get it from Miami. I say we trade him and move up in the draft get DMac trade for CJ and Pacman and call it a super bowl championship.

MB3 isn't the constant factor that we need on the team out of everyone on offense he is prob the piece that doesn't fit. We are a passing offense we put up points fast. Us trying to grind it out and run the ball 30 times with him isn't going to win us anything. Him and his agent need to get thrown out of VR. Honestly him getting for 30 million would be like Patrick Crayton getting for 30 mill.

The fact that he had the nerve to ask for 40-60 mill i would end negotaitons right there

Do you realize how ridiculous you sound there? Not many backup RBs have broken the 1000 yard mark when they split carries. MB3 would've gotten 1,300-1,500 yards if given the full load last year.

This has to be one of the stupidest posts I have ever read on this board. You have no clue what you are talking about.

Man, all I can do is shake my head.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2039234 said:
good the less MB3 fan boys the more realistic the perception of the situation becomes.

Yeah. Give up draft picks and pay a rookie 30 mil guarantee. That is a more realistic? :lmao2:
 

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Barber can simply take the $$$, then if he tears up the league next year, start whinning about his pay not being enough, and that we cheated him on his contract, beg to be traded like all the receivers do. ;)
 

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ajk23az;2039245 said:
Do you realize how ridiculous you sound there? Not many backup RBs have broken the 1000 yard mark when they split carries. MB3 would've gotten 1,300-1,500 yards if given the full load last year.

This has to be one of the stupidest posts I have ever read on this board. You have no clue what you are talking about.

Man, all I can do is shake my head.

No need to personally attack anyone. Might want to re-read those rules again.
 

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Dallas;2039271 said:
No need to personally attack anyone. Might want to re-read those rules again.

I wasn't personally attacking anyone, i was attacking the post. Not the poster....

I am pretty sure I have seen a large # of people say a person has no clue what they are talking about also.
 

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ajk23az;2039245 said:
Do you realize how ridiculous you sound there? Not many backup RBs have broken the 1000 yard mark when they split carries. MB3 would've gotten 1,300-1,500 yards if given the full load last year.

This has to be one of the stupidest posts I have ever read on this board. You have no clue what you are talking about.

Man, all I can do is shake my head.

so y is a back up asking for elite starter money that has to be the dumbest thing i ever heard heard. MB3 i doubt would have rushed for 1,300-1,500 yards but i can tell you something that would have happened if his carries went up. It would have been more fumbles and a higher injury risk.

Little Jr;2039246 said:
Yeah. Give up draft picks and pay a rookie 30 mil guarantee. That is a more realistic? :lmao2:

Let's see if the rookie is DMAC who is obv more physically gifted and talented than MB3 yea. We don't have to trade in to the number 1 spot lets go around pick four or something that way the price drops a lil.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2039290 said:
so y is a back up asking for elite starter money that has to be the dumbest thing i ever heard heard. MB3 i doubt would have rushed for 1,300-1,500 yards but i can tell you something that would have happened if his carries went up. It would have been more fumbles and a higher injury risk.

He averaged 4.8 yards per carry on 12 carries a game last year. It would be really hard to maintain that average but say he averages around 4.3 and then gets 19 carries a game like Tomlinson got last year, that would equal..........1307 yards. 1,500 was probably stretching it but 1,300 was for sure a definite possibility.

MB3 has not lost a fumble in 477 carries. Thats every carry he has had in the NFL.

Usually, when a guy does get more carries, he has a bigger chance of getting injured. I might be going out on a limb there though.
 

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ajk23az;2039300 said:
He averaged 4.8 yards per carry on 12 carries a game last year. It would be really hard to maintain that average but say he averages around 4.3 and then gets 19 carries a game like Tomlinson got last year, that would equal..........1307 yards. 1,500 was probably stretching it but 1,300 was for sure a definite possibility.

MB3 has not lost a fumble in 477 carries. Thats every carry he has had in the NFL.

Usually, when a guy does get more carries, he has a bigger chance of getting injured. I might be going out on a limb there though.
that couldn't be more true especially with the way barber runs. so give him 40 mill jerry! you will be on your way to driving this team into the ground again.
 

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Rampage;2039310 said:
that couldn't be more true especially with the way barber runs. so give him 40 mill jerry! you will be on your way to driving this team into the ground again.

Earlier in this thread I did say that 40-60 million is ridiculous. I said 30 is alright.

You don't think McFadden would EVER get his chicken legs taken out from underneath him. At least Barber is more compact, and tougher btw.

Look at Reggie Bush and his injury problems he has had since Bush and McFadden are close to the same build, with DMAC a little thicker AND 2 inches taller.

EVERY RB will have more injury risk with more carries, even the all-mighty McFadden, thats the NFL.
 

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ajk23az;2039322 said:
Earlier in this thread I did say that 40-60 million is ridiculous. I said 30 is alright.

You don't think McFadden would EVER get his chicken legs taken out from underneath him. At least Barber is more compact, and tougher btw.

Look at Reggie Bush and his injury problems he has had since Bush and McFadden are close to the same build, with DMAC a little thicker AND 2 inches taller.

EVERY RB will have more injury risk with more carries, even the all-mighty McFadden, thats the NFL.
i still don't know about giving him 30 mill. yes but the difference is "the all mighty McFadden" looks to run past defenders. barber looks to run directly into defenders.
 

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Rampage;2039191 said:
i'm really at a loss for words with this. I hated the fact he signed drew to be his agent. but i don't think jerry should shell out that kind of money to a guy who runs as reckless as he does. as good as he is and as he started to look good compared to julius i thought it was a mistake to draft him.


You thought it was a mistake to draft Barber?

Or do you still think it was a mistake to draft Barber?
 

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Rampage;2039327 said:
i still don't know about giving him 30 mill. yes but the difference is "the all mighty McFadden" looks to run past defenders. barber looks to run directly into defenders.

Yes, he will run past some defenders. But once again, this is the NFL. Every position is a lot stronger, faster & smarter in the NFL than in college.

I want a RB that can run in between the tackles sometime and not bounce it outside every time, I know DMAC doesnt do it every time but he has trouble running in between the tackles.

You can't always run away from defenders. Gonna have to make contact at some point.
 

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ajk23az;2039339 said:
Yes, he will run past some defenders. But once again, this is the NFL. Every position is a lot stronger, faster & smarter in the NFL than in college.

I want a RB that can run in between the tackles sometime and not bounce it outside every time, I know DMAC doesnt do it every time but he has trouble running in between the tackles.

You can't always run away from defenders. Gonna have to make contact at some point.

The didn't stop AP from tearing up the league and Dmac is better than AP
 

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I am happy we have MBIII, but it would appear that if all things are equal, that Michael Turner is currently a better back than MBII because he appears to be more of an every down back, and more of a home run threat than MBIII.
 

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I really like the guy and think they will work it out,but man I just hate Rosenhouse being involved
 
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