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Hostile;2577775 said:
This ought to be interesting. How can you guarantee that?
I'm just thinking back to last year when TO got hurt down the stretch and then Romo started to not be as spectacular as he was for most of the season(but that could be blamed on his slumps in december, which im still not completely sold on). I do understand everyones points about how we should cut him....but even with all of that i still think the best move is to keep him. Another thing is does anyone want him to end up in the NFC this year? I know i dont. Hostile i still cant "guarntee" that Romo wants him here it was just an educated guess.
 

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Steve Dennis said that if TO were cut, Romo would be the happiest man at Valley Ranch.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2578054 said:
Steve Dennis said that if TO were cut, Romo would be the happiest man at Valley Ranch.

For those of us who aren't as informed on the Dallas media....

Is Steve Dennis a reliable person? As in....does this have legs.... or is he speculating?
 

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:laugh2:I'm done for the day, ive left my thoughts. I understand where you guys are coming from....i just lean the other way. GO COWBOYS:starspin:starspin:starspin
 

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UDcowboysfan;2578061 said:
:laugh2:I'm done for the day, ive left my thoughts. I understand where you guys are coming from....i just lean the other way. GO COWBOYS:starspin:starspin:starspin

I'm of the opinion of just make a damn decision. TO is talented. He might not be worth the trouble. None of us really know.

I just want the organization to make a decision and move forward.

We haven't won playoff games with him. Worst case scenario, we still don't win playoff games. I'm used to that. I'm not going anywhere. I'll still be a Cowboys fan.

Just make a decision...
 

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Vintage;2578060 said:
For those of us who aren't as informed on the Dallas media....

Is Steve Dennis a reliable person? As in....does this have legs.... or is he speculating?

He's the second guy at Channel 11 in Dallas (to Laufenberg), and the one always out at Valley Ranch. He also did that weekly radio show with TO. (Can't remember the name of the show right now). He's always been a TO defender until the end of this year, too, so he's not like a Galloway who has bashed him since he got here.

So yes, I think he's very reliable.

Although I will clarify that this was said more as an opinion than something that he heard from Tony.
 

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Vintage;2578069 said:
I'm of the opinion of just make a damn decision. TO is talented. He might not be worth the trouble. None of us really know.

I just want the organization to make a decision and move forward.

We haven't won playoff games with him. Worst case scenario, we still don't win playoff games. I'm used to that. I'm not going anywhere. I'll still be a Cowboys fan.

Just make a decision...

The safety valve in this TO decision if they do decide to release him, is that the guy is 35 years old. If releasing him is premature, it won't be by much. It would not haunt them for years.
 

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CoCo;2578078 said:
The safety valve in this TO decision if they do decide to release him, is that the guy is 35 years old. If releasing him is premature, it won't be by much. It would not haunt them for years.

If it happens, that's the main reason Jerry would do it. If TO was 30, there would be zero chance he'd be let go. But at 35 and past his peak, it's a much easier thing to do.
 

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UDcowboysfan;2578090 said:
I still think the dude will play till he's in his forties

Not without changing his OM he won't. Because even if he still plays at a reasonably high level, that is always evaluated against the stir he creates. There were very few suitors 3 years ago when Dallas grabbed him. His time in Dallas hasn't improved his teammate reputation, and now he's 3 years older to boot.

The clock is running out on TO. Far and away his best option is to never talk to the press again. Not just because they twist things and stir things but because he uses poor judgment in that process as well. Or find a front person more concerned about reforming the guys image (justified or not) than about how the guy has been wronged and is just sharing truth.

I think its entirely likely that TO's reputation will end his time in the league before his body does. It bears some resemblances to Barry Bonds exit - and no I am not implying at all that TO does anything illegal. Rather, Bonds had some capability to still be productive but teams didn't want the headache that comes with that be it real violations or perceived.
 

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SteveOS;2576310 said:
"I think Jerry would have to think about it, but I believe he'd let Jason leave,'' said one team source, believing Jones would prefer to be relieved of his remaining $6 million obligation to Garrett.

Is Galloway his source?

Werder just needs to stop. Its obvious that his source is not from within the organization just by this comment here. Does anyone really think that Jones cares about money over his personal relationships? Its bullcrap.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2578054 said:
Steve Dennis said that if TO were cut, Romo would be the happiest man at Valley Ranch.

If what Dennis says is true, this is a no-brainer for Jerry.

You have to support your franchise QB. There is no other smart choice.
 

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ZeroClub;2578139 said:
If what Dennis says is true, this is a no-brainer for Jerry.

You have to support your franchise QB. There is no other smart choice.
OR

You (Jerry Jones) can pay your franchise quarterback $60+ million AND expect that he will do his job as expected AND appease his star wide receiver's every whim (no matter how unnecessarily idiotic) while doing so. Just saying.
 

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ZeroClub;2578139 said:
If what Dennis says is true, this is a no-brainer for Jerry.


You have to support your franchise QB. There is no other smart choice.
Does that also hold true for Romo's, the franchise QB, clear comments regarding Garrett?
 

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khiladi;2578168 said:
Does that also hold true for Romo's, the franchise QB, clear comments regarding Garrett?
Tony Romo = young franchise quarterback

Terrell Owens = very good wide receiver nearing the end of his career

I believe that one would automatically receive more latitude than the other.
 

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khiladi;2578168 said:
Does that also hold true for Romo's, the franchise QB, clear comments regarding Garrett?

You mean the damning stuff about 'we' didn't make the right adjustments during one game?
 

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cowboyeric8;2577017 said:
Roy (replace him with who?)

Folk (he is money on his kicks, and replace him with who?)

Flozell (replace him with who?)

Ellis (replace him with who?, Spencer hasn't shown jack yet)

Hurd and Stanback (I've never seen so much worry about bottom of the depth chart recievers as I see from you guys, I don't get it. They don't play and they won't until they can prove otherwise, keep them in camp and see what happens.)

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Roy38: Watkins will be back and via the draft. He's not the only saftey out there. *IF* Roy could play up to his ability from just a couple years ago, I'd say keep him, but he just isn't the player he used to be. I wouldn't mind Oshiomogho Atogwe. In the draft, I think OU's Nic Harris or USC's Kevin Ellison could be later round picks that could be developed.

Folk: Kickers are a dime a dozen and plenty will be leaving college. I think it's a waste of a roster space to sign a guy that will *only* kickoff the ball. Not saying Folk isn't a good kicker, but Dallas can/should look for somebody that can do more than just one thing. Not trying to be a homer, but UTEP's Jose Martinez. He can put it into the endzone and he's got a strong accurate leg. Again, a guy that should be there late in the draft.

Flozell: It'd cost Dallas to replace him, but it'd be a worthwhile investment: Jordan Gross, Marvell Smith, Willie Colon to name a few. They have between 2-8 years less wear and tear on their bodies. Jason Watkins out of Florida could be a good late round pick too.

Ellis: I agree, Spencer hasn't done squat 'cept get arrested and that may (and should) get him the boot. I think Leroy Hill from Seattle (if going by FA) would be a good option. I don't think we necessarily need a big "Parcells-type" OLB. If going by the draft there's good, younger options: Clay Matthews (USC), Tyrone McKenzie (USF)...guys that can be had in the 3rd+ rounds.

Hurd/Stanback: Injuries do occur (we should know) and having quality depth is key. Stanback is a project that will never pan out and Hurd is a likable guy but just can't seem to be able to get seperation. Showing my colors, but a better option is trading for Oakland's Johnnie Lee Higgins. He's a speed guy, he's a special teams guy doing both punt/kick returns and has the solid hands to be a clutch #3 WR. Yes, I think he can push Austin/Crayton for the job. *IF* Owens is let go and Dallas goes w/ RoyE and Austin/Crayton, the depth at WR will be key. If Jerry's determined to have a project WR, then I'd draft Pat White as a WR. He should be available on the 2nd day.
 

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chinch;2577434 said:
You must be on message boards too much because in the real world EVERYONE i speak to at best tolerates TO and mostly loathes him. I've never seen anyone wearing a TO jersey around here and i see dozens and dozens each Sunday (and some weekdays).

Which makes me wonder what SHEEP would buy a TO jersey anyways given our history of great, classy players? Sad.

Even fantasy football fans hated him this year ROTF.

The NFL community - fans, players, coaches, GMs, owners - as a whole will be happy when TO is cut.

If jerry doesn't cut him he hands all leverage to Owens this season and that would be jerry's worst debacle ever.


:laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1:

This part amuses me the most; the self-righteousness of fans of a team with a history of criminal players out the wazzu.

Classy players such as Michael Irvin, Alvin Harper, Nate Newton, Erik Williams, Leon Lett, Charles Haley...and the list goes on.

And you might check the jersey sale numbers, because Owens is in the NFL's top 10. So somebody's buying them, genius.
 

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DallasEast;2578180 said:
Tony Romo = young franchise quarterback

Terrell Owens = very good wide receiver nearing the end of his career



I believe that one would automatically receive more latitude than the other.
You obviously missed the point, which is they both made damning remarks regarding Garrett... You will not find a single piece of evidence from Tony Romo that damns TO, but you will find clear words from Romo, the franchise QB of JJ, that damns Garrett... You will find countless players that are HoF, like Ray Lewis and Ed Reed, that damn Garrett... Not a single one of them have criticized TO as a problem... Brian Dawkins is another one who fully supports TO, and wished he could have played in Big D, alongside him...
 

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khiladi;2578395 said:
You obviously missed the point, which is they both made damning remarks regarding Garrett...
Nope. Got the point fully. I simply do not regard the comments made by both Owens and Romo equally as you do. One set of comments is being relayed by the established franchise quarterback, who will not leaving regardless of potential coaching changes. The other set of coments are being made by a wide receiver who may or may not play out the extension of his contract.

One could place the "damning" comments side-by-side in a graphic. I may even do that later on today. Both are not going to carry the same weight even if both comments were word-for-word duplications. The NFL doesn't work like that.
 
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