Sources: Dallas may release Owens (ESPN) *Merge*

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SultanOfSix;2577415 said:
Yes, because being sick isn't an excuse. :rolleyes:

How would you react if your boss started yelling at you if you came in late 5 minutes to work and your "excuse" was feeling sick with an upset stomach and some diarrhea?

Maybe its harder to believe the sick excuse when it's coming from someone who is regularly falling asleep in meetings. Oh yeah he's got narcolepsy, I forgot he's got an excuse for that too.

Think about that big ole meanie Jimmy Johnson telling a player where the asthma field is. How would he like to have asthma and try to play football? Not very much, I'll tell you that.
 

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I look forward to the day he's gone.

And no, I won't rue it.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2577385 said:
I can't imagine that cutting TO would be go over well with most fans.
You must be on message boards too much because in the real world EVERYONE i speak to at best tolerates TO and mostly loathes him. I've never seen anyone wearing a TO jersey around here and i see dozens and dozens each Sunday (and some weekdays).

Which makes me wonder what SHEEP would buy a TO jersey anyways given our history of great, classy players? Sad.

Even fantasy football fans hated him this year ROTF.

The NFL community - fans, players, coaches, GMs, owners - as a whole will be happy when TO is cut.

If jerry doesn't cut him he hands all leverage to Owens this season and that would be jerry's worst debacle ever.
 

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Real1st;2577404 said:
T.O. has alot of fans. For instance i am a fan of T.O. But i think the consensus feel like i do we are tired of T.O. acting like a kid when he is a man in his mid thirties. T.O. brings to much unwarranted attention. I like T.O. he is a H.O.F. players but dude i am a bigger Dallas Cowboys fan. Its time for us to part ways with the T.O.

T.O. being our locker room leader is not a good thing.
As much as I agree with all of this, I would like to point out that I'm in my mid-40s and I still behave like a child. So I take that part personally.
 

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I'm sick of hearing about it esp when there is no news. I wouldn't bet a nickle one way or the other. I'd be very surprised if they weren't discussing TO for several reasons. If they'd report it like that then I'd be more interested in what they had to say.
 

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InmanRoshi;2577425 said:
Maybe its harder to believe the sick excuse when it's coming from someone who is regularly falling asleep in meetings. Oh yeah he's got narcolepsy, I forgot he's got an excuse for that too.

Think about that big ole meanie Jimmy Johnson telling a player where the asthma field is. How would he like to have asthma and try to play football? Not very much, I'll tell you that.

You mean the same Jimmy Johnson that treated his players differently depending upon their production on the field? The one that would never cut an Aikman, but when a Curvin Richards dozed off, he'd be gone the next day?

And, who's the source that is saying he regularly falls asleep in meetings? An anonymous one?

"The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses." - Malcolm X
 

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chinch;2577434 said:
You must be on message boards too much because in the real world EVERYONE i speak to at best tolerates TO and mostly loathes him. I've never seen anyone wearing a TO jersey around here and i see dozens and dozens each Sunday (and some weekdays).
Well there no doubt about my being on message boards too much. :eek::

But no, I was talking about all the TO jerseys I see around the DFW area, especially where I usually watch games. Not to mention the fans at the stadium who chant "T.O., T.O.". No other player except maybe Romo gets that kind of individual attention.
 

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fanfromvirginia;2577441 said:
As much as I agree with all of this, I would like to point out that I'm in my mid-40s and I still behave like a child. So I take that part personally.

Good for you. I'd like to hang with you and maybe I'd be less serious. Four kids in college and no weather to ride is making me crumpy.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2577424 said:
That's interesting. Maybe I have been influenced by the TO fans here. I imagined that the more casual fan just sees the touchdowns and the big plays and doesn't even keep up with the internal workings of the team. But I'd be glad to be wrong. :)

And to Mick... If the team wins next year, nothing else will matter. I was talking about at the time the cut would be made, which would be by summer.

Understood.

But I still don't think the fallout would be as big.

In Philadelphia, Terrell Owens was the Offense and their fans wondered where the production would come from. In Dallas, we just have too many other options, even at Wide Receiver.
 

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jobberone;2577451 said:
Good for you. I'd like to hang with you and maybe I'd be less serious. Four kids in college and no weather to ride is making me crumpy.
4 kids in college would do the trick, I'd think, in terms of growing up quick.

I've got two in grade school so my time's coming...
 

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JordanTaber;2577048 said:
The source says there HASN'T been any discussion. The source said he thinks there WILL be.

Reading comprehension 101.
Doesn't change a thing though does it?

Whether they have discussed or are going to discuss it the reason is what?

Common Sense 101.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2577450 said:
Well there no doubt about my being on message boards too much. :eek::

But no, I was talking about all the TO jerseys I see around the DFW area, especially where I usually watch games. Not to mention the fans at the stadium who chant "T.O., T.O.". No other player except maybe Romo gets that kind of individual attention.
I don't doubt locally TO has fans... he's a Cowboy so that trumps everything. Mike Vick still has fans. The same guys will be #11 fans next year or any flavor of the day. Sorta like Brittney Spears fans... not long lived.

Jerry markets AMERICA'S TEAM worldwide. TO is HINDERING, NOT helping Jerry sell anything at this point.

Callit a hunch but in 10 years NO COWBOY FAN will want a TO throwback jersey, unlike many 70s players, the triplets, etc. TO's stint here is the textbook example of ... "it was worth a shot but it didn't work and the team is more important going forward".
 

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Hostile;2577471 said:
Doesn't change a thing though does it?

Whether they have discussed or are going to discuss it the reason is what?

Common Sense 101.

And some people believe that a father and son, (Jerry and Stephen), haven't "discussed" this topic either in the office or at Jerry's house since the end of one of the most disastrous seasons in Cowboy history? That's ridiculous.

They may not have started formal business discussions about each player, cap ramifications, etc., as they do each off-season, but it would be foolish to think they haven't talked as a family about the pros and cons of releasing him.
 

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I've never hated TO but he's on the way down talent wise and that makes it much harder to stomach his schtick. He still demands the ball but now the QB has to make better throws to get it to him and risk picks. It's sorta like the last year KJ was here. The coaches would tell Bledsoe to throw it to him even when he's not open because he could make a play. That was true but it still put a lot of pressure on the QB to make perfect throws. And KJ was never the pantload TO is. Better to move on one year early than one year late on an older star receiver, especially in TO's case. To me it's a no brainer, he goes.
 

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Hostile;2577471 said:
Doesn't change a thing though does it?

Whether they have discussed or are going to discuss it the reason is what?

Common Sense 101.

I think the whole point is the Title of the article has nothing to do with what was discussed in the article. The title should have been, Souce: "Cowboys may talk about releasing TO" There has not been any discussion. There MAY be a discussion. Its pure speculation on the unnamed sources part. For ESPN to come out and TO Dallas may release Owens, is pretty dishonest.
 

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SultanOfSix;2577447 said:
And, who's the source that is saying he regularly falls asleep in meetings? An anonymous one?

"As long as I don't sleep on Sunday," the Dallas Cowboys receiver said as he left the locker room at the team's practice facility. As is customary on Friday, he did not conduct interviews.

The receiver said in Friday's editions of The Dallas Morning News that he informed the Cowboys about a sleeping problem before signing with them.

"It's nothing new for me to fall asleep in a meeting," he said.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/cowboys/2006-11-03-owens-sleeping_x.htm
 

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CaptainAmerica;2577500 said:
And some people believe that a father and son, (Jerry and Stephen), haven't "discussed" this topic either in the office or at Jerry's house since the end of one of the most disastrous seasons in Cowboy history? That's ridiculous.

They may not have started formal business discussions about each player, cap ramifications, etc., as they do each off-season, but it would be foolish to think they haven't talked as a family about the pros and cons of releasing him.

This is a very good point.

I just get the sense that lines have been drawn in the sand at Valley Ranch.

I think there are camps and cliques that are extremely divided on how to go foward.

It's really a shame that there doesn't seem to be a leader at any level of the Organization to circle the wagons.
 
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