Sources: Hopkins would welcome trade to Cowboys; willing to make financial concessions

[Beast_from_East]

If they wouldn’t even give up a 3 I just can’t take them seriously….I understand jerry is in love with obj but someone needs to explain to him that the sizzle he thinks he’s getting with obj would be the exact same with Hopkins except you know he also comes with the steak.

The guy can still play. We know that. is his health a question? Yes but no more than Odell Beckham jr the difference is we know he’ll deliver on the field if he’s out there. We HOPE Odell will

Exactly............If they roll with Lamb and Gallup the gimp as the only two vet receivers on the roster, hard for me to believe they are actually trying to win.

 

[sdfidaho]

Jerry does not know how to made a trade for a wide receiver that does not require a number one draft pick.

You mean multiple #1’s

 

[Cowfan75]

Why would we trade for Hopkins when we can get a recently injured drama queen who doesn't want to play football unless it's in the playoffs?

 

[SloMo_Joe]

Jerry does not know how to made a trade for a wide receiver that does not require a number one draft pick.

Sir, please get your facts straight. We have to give away 2 1st rounders for RW type players....lmao.

 

[Reid1boys]

They wouldn’t be moving on if he didn’t have the back to back seasons he’s coming off. He hasn’t been dependable and he’s aging. They’re not winning with him. There’s two positives with OBJ over Hopkins. He won’t cost us any draft picks and he helped lead a team to a championship.

If OBL is 100% i might go that route if I could sign him to a 2-3 year Gallup type deal.... absolutely nothing past 3 years and Id want an out in that 3rd year.

Otherwise Id take Hopkins who has 2 years left and year 2 is only 14 million. If money or years is no object and just lining up and picking the player, id take hopkins. WAY less baggage and I think he is a better player

 

[Beast_from_East]

Hopkins has some red flags. Paying him 15-20 million per year isn’t ideal. We should have signed Slayton.

If we are going to pay $15-20 million per year, why did we not just keep Coop?

Nobody has been able to explain to me the logic behind trading away Coop because he makes too much money and then turning around and either trading (Dhop) or signing (OBJ) another receiver that is older, more injury prone, and makes almost the same amount of money.

Somebody please explain to me the logic behind trading away Coop for a 5th round pick and then turning right around and trading a 2nd round pick for an older receiver making the same money or signing an older and more injury prone receiver making the same amount of money.

We couldnt restructure some contracts to keep Coop, but we can restructure contracts to sign OBJ or trade a premium pick for Dhop and pay them basically what Coop was being paid. Makes absolutely no sense to run a team like this. Anybody care to explain to Beast the logic behind this, maybe I am missing something.

 

[john van brocklin]

Sir, please get your facts straight. We have to give away 2 1st rounders for RW type players....lmao.

Galloway 2 number ones
Williams 1 and 3rd
Cooper 1
There is Jerry's foray into the WR
Market.
And folks wonder why we can't get past the divisional round for 28 years.

 

[DallasEast]

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[Beast_from_East]

Absurdly Silly. Do you guys hear yourself? Bozo the Clown talk!

Here are the Cowboys full-time staff working like mad this time of year. This doesn't include everyone involved.

Evaluating Pro players for free agency:
Will McClay, VP, Player Personnel
Todd Williams, VP Football Operations
Jason McKay, Director of Football Admin and Technology
Bryan Wansley, Director of Player Development
Adam Prasifka, Director of Salary Cap / Player Contracts
Alex Loomis, Director of Pro Scouting
Rich Behm, Scouting Video Coordinator
Terry Gray, Pro Scouting Coordinator
Keith O-Quinn, Advance Scouting Coordinator
Klein Kubiak, National Scout / Special Projects
Henry Sroka, Pro Scout
Scott Sehnert, Director of Sports Performance
Jim Maurer, Head Athletic Trainer

Evaluating Pro players for draft:

Will McClay, VP, Player Personnel
Todd Williams, VP Football Operations
Mike Maples, Director of Video
Jason McKay, Director of Football Admin and Technology
Sam Crowley, Assistant Director of Video
Mitch LaPoint, Director of College Scouting
Chris Vaughn, Assistant Director of College Scouting
Chris Hall, College Scouting Coordinator
Eric Ellingsworth, Southeast Area Scout
Sam Garza, Mid-South Area Scout
Klein Kubiak, National Scout / Special Projects
Brett Maxie II, College Scout
Justin Stucky, Midwest Area Scout
Bo Taliaferro, Northeast Area Scout
Ross Wünsche, National Scout

Cowboys have invested millions of dollars on staff and technology to evaluate and collect talent. They have hard drives full of data, metrics, private investigations. You all simply have no idea.

Millions of dollars invested, state of the art technology, hard drives full of data, metrics, private investigators, rooms full of specialist doing nothing but analytics......

Wow, impressive........however.........

They stand right in front of you at the combine and say "yeah, we totally screwed up the WR position last year".

 

[kevm3]

If we are going to pay $15-20 million per year, why did we not just keep Coop?

Nobody has been able to explain to me the logic behind trading away Coop because he makes too much money and then turning around and either trading (Dhop) or signing (OBJ) another receiver that is older, more injury prone, and makes almost the same amount of money.

Somebody please explain to me the logic behind trading away Coop for a 5th round pick and then turning right around and trading a 2nd round pick for an older receiver making the same money or signing an older and more injury prone receiver making the same amount of money.

We couldnt restructure some contracts to keep Coop, but we can restructure contracts to sign OBJ or trade a premium pick for Dhop and pay them basically what Coop was being paid. Makes absolutely no sense to run a team like this. Anybody care to explain to Beast the logic behind this, maybe I am missing something.

Trading away Coop was a nonsensical move in the first place, especially for a 5th rounder. We'd probably be in the superbowl and in the nfc championship game at the least if we had the same team + coop

 

[Beast_from_East]

I know we haven't won more than a few wildcard games in 27 years.

These homers on here think a Wildcard win every half decade, is the sign of a good team............hard for me to take some seriously that believes that.

If last year was so great, why did the offensive coordinator get stripped of playcalling and shown the door along with most of the offensive assistants?

I guess they didnt get the memo that last year was a tremendous accomplishment...............puzzling

 

[Beast_from_East]

Trading away Coop was a nonsensical move in the first place, especially for a 5th rounder. We'd probably be in the superbowl and in the nfc championship game at the least if we had the same team + coop

Exactly my friend.

 

[T-RO]

They stand right in front of you at the combine and say "yeah, we totally screwed up the WR position last year".

Every team makes mistakes, and Jerry's age, nepotism and blind spots insures Dallas makes their share. Jerry got sideways and stupid with Cooper, no doubt.

But reality? If you or I were take our (UT/you or UCLA/me) fancy smarts and education and aim to out-think Dallas' entire team of scouts/execs and post two consecutive 12-win seasons...we would flop badly. 95% of Cowboys personnel decisions get tons of scrutiny from a group of bright people not named "Jones." According to numerous reports the Cowboys usually--usually operates by consensus.

 

[KJJ]

If OBL is 100% i might go that route if I could sign him to a 2-3 year Gallup type deal.... absolutely nothing past 3 years and Id want an out in that 3rd year.

Otherwise Id take Hopkins who has 2 years left and year 2 is only 14 million. If money or years is no object and just lining up and picking the player, id take hopkins. WAY less baggage and I think he is a better player

So you want to give up multiple draft picks for Hopkins including a premium second day pick? I would give up a third round for him and that’s it.

 

[Xavier187]

I think I would tryand dump J.Lewis on them. Atleast plus a Future 3rd that can turn into a 2nd if we make the playoffs

 

[T-RO]

These homers on here think a Wildcard win every half decade, is the sign of a good team............hard for me to take some seriously that believes that.

Was a good team. Full stop. A 12-5 team is good by definition. Great? No. Top QB or Head Coach? No. Outside of QB the roster was top four. You don't judge the 2023 players by a history that has nothing to do with them.

If last year was so great, why did the offensive coordinator get stripped of playcalling and shown the door along with most of the offensive assistants?

You got the facts a bit misplaced. Moore's play-calling was never stripped. And it was Kellen who dumped Dallas, as much as anything. He had a preferred job all lined up.

Source:
https://heavy.com/sports/dallas-cowboys/kellen-moore-mike-mccarthy-la-chargers/

 

[Mannix]

So let me get this straight…Booger and Chuckles admit that they screwed up WR this last season, but yet they are trying just as hard as they can to do it again??? Ok, got it…I thought there was something here that I was missing.

 

[MaineBoy]

If we are going to pay $15-20 million per year, why did we not just keep Coop?

Nobody has been able to explain to me the logic behind trading away Coop because he makes too much money and then turning around and either trading (Dhop) or signing (OBJ) another receiver that is older, more injury prone, and makes almost the same amount of money.

Somebody please explain to me the logic behind trading away Coop for a 5th round pick and then turning right around and trading a 2nd round pick for an older receiver making the same money or signing an older and more injury prone receiver making the same amount of money.

We couldnt restructure some contracts to keep Coop, but we can restructure contracts to sign OBJ or trade a premium pick for Dhop and pay them basically what Coop was being paid. Makes absolutely no sense to run a team like this. Anybody care to explain to Beast the logic behind this, maybe I am missing something.

I guess you missed it. Coop was not traded because of any football reason. Jerry’s motto that year was that everybody was all in for a Superbowl Run. Cooper made a personal health decision that caused him to miss games. That did not sit well with Jerry. Jerry wanted Cooper gone even if he only got a ham sandwich in return. Which he did.

 

[T-RO]

Exactly............If they roll with Lamb and Gallup the gimp as the only two vet receivers on the roster, hard for me to believe they are actually trying to win.

Current Projected WR 2023 Starters - Dallas vs. KC

Dallas
Ceedee Lamb, 1359 yards, 9 TD
Gallup, 507 yards, 2 TD
Slot: Simi Fehoko, placeholder


Chiefs
Marquez Valdes-Scantling, 687 yards, 2 TD
Kadarius Toney, 171 yards, 2 TD,
Slot: Skyy Moore, 250 yards, 0 TD

Chiefs aren't even trying to win either, I suppose, according to BFE's comment. Their second string receivers, Cornell Powell, Ihmir Smith-Marsette and Justyn Ross have a combined 15 yards in their careers.

-"Gallup the gimp"? Yeah I guess he's forever crippled after 1 ACL surgery.
- WR draft class is weak, but the one thing it has in abundance? Slot receivers. Dallas will draft one, if not two.

 

[T-RO]

Once people give way to rage...they lose all ability to think.

Be angry with the Jones family, critique them generously. They've earned (some/much) of it. But don't let your own rage carry your brain away like flotsam.

It only gives me something to giggle at.