Spagnola: Back off taking this shot with Schotty

[tunahelper]

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/spagnola-back-off-taking-this-shot-with-schotty

FRISCO, Texas – Let's see, seems to be open season on the Cowboys. The piling on has become the newest national rage.
Whatever they do and however they do it, well, it's wrong, and well before any results are established. No factual reasons, just that's it's the Cowboys and Jerry Jones.
Latest example being the hiring of Brian Schottenheimer as the 10th head coach in the franchise's now starting 66-season history. The criticism is nearly universal. Print media. Electronic media. Radio entertainers. Social opinionators wishing they were considered media.
And the disgruntled fans.

The past continues to haunt the Cowboys, their failures since winning three Super Bowls in four years from 1992-95 but not a one since. We know the facts facing a franchise that had won five Super Bowls in the first 30-year history of the Super Bowl, though having advanced to the "ultimate game" three other times and two more to the NFL Championship in the first two years of the Super Bowl era.

Another company rag issued by spag.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I can only control how I act in my dealings with others. I also tend to expect consideration for how I treat others as a result of my actions.

I agree with the first sentence. The second has no effect on how I believe i should act. There are times I have failed in that.

Neil Peart, the drummer for Rush (RIP) once said..."If you do good you get good", and couldn't understand why that approach often failed.

Because he was wrong, that's why. You do good because you ARE good. Regardless of consequences.

 

[Bobhaze]

The only difference between a Jerry Jones speech and a Mickey Spagnola written article is Mickey does use correct grammar within the English language..

 

[Mannix]

Little shill the corporate wee man did the job he was paid for....I'm just surprised it's a few days late.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

You just did, what is your problem, stereotypes?

You are talking about supportive attitude reinforcement....since you are supportive and condescending also, ever try to use English to discuss current status of the team and not just your own self validating attitude? Try talking an actual discussion on topics of football beyond your own value to insult and directed to a discussion about actually developing football in Dallas.

That is bias and directed personally.

Understand English and know how to recognize one's own lack of ethics?

I don't see weakness in the current status of direction of the current Dallas Cowboys. It doesn't require hatred of Jerry Jones to be valid.

YOU talk football, and if English isn't your chosen language, handle it. That has not been done in what is posted by you.

All manner of misspellings and grammar errors in professional writings....from academic papers, government documents, fiction and non fiction literature...pro writers, teams of editors, new editions...

and you are looking for perfect English HERE...from people typing on a phone?

Dude...

Are you running your comments through AI/ Pulling my leg? You have to be just kidding. You can't be this...how shall I say politely in the rules?...jacked up?

I hope you don't speak this disrespectfully to your friends and family. I pray it's just an act.

You see no weakness in current status? Well...okay. Could you possibly respectfully and courteously disagree with others about it? Your fancy English does nothing to cover it up.

 

[CCBoy]

The more things change…. Spags in for another one of his devil’s advocate defenses.

Going to be a sad day in the Star when Spags is gone and no one left at DC.Com to give us the ‘let’s consider this…’ defense.

Few weeks back was watching an ESPN piece on teams hiring new coaches. They lumped all teams together for the next head coaching hires since they were all looking at the same talent but kept the Cowboys piece coaching pool separate since as they explained it, Jerry does it his way. Everyone from Coach Prime to Schottenheimer, they had interviews no one else in the league was trying.

If it was year 8 of 30 in the Jones Years I might buy it, but just more business as usual.

Jerry specifically talked about watching Schottenheimer both have “deference” to Mike McCarthy at times, and also “bite his lip” at other times when discussing game plans. If Schottenheimer’s presence was strong enough in these meetings to sell himself as a head coach without even realizing it, why was it not strong enough to make a difference on the field, where the offensive scheme persisted in the image of McCarthy’s play calling and hardly any of anything from Schottenheimer’s past in Seattle or elsewhere? If it was because a veteran head coach like McCarthy knew how to protect his own power within the team over anything else, and not allowing his coordinators to have big enough roles was a reason for parting ways after five seasons, how can the merits of a first time head coach like Schottenheimer, who will need an even stronger reliance on his support staff, be spun as a positive?

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...rry-stephen-jones-mike-mccarthy-matt-eberflus

X's and O's have been added through the thread. Current influences.

The problem here is objectivity, not potential. A limiting set of non-changing X's and O's and involved with a view of the past and attempting to apply them to a current analysis. Those in fact do not apply to now.

What is presented above, is biased based upon disappointment, and not just football.

The team, in fact, is not to the point to apply an updated view of current X's and O's.

The process for change has been solid to the present. What is passed as to status is instead prejudice and non-inclusive and real facts.

That is not fact but stereotype.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Learn English...ever taken a course in topical presentation...?



Schottenheimer did not get an extraordinary amount of time to discuss any scheme or philosophy changes he plans on implementing, but when he did it took no time at all to start with emphasizing the run game - surely music to the Jones’ ears after already interviewing Schottenheimer twice - as well as more play-action and the types of throws Dak Prescott thrived on much earlier in his career.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...rry-stephen-jones-mike-mccarthy-matt-eberflus




Try using some American National Language and not always an insultive word -you- whether implied or used directly. Here and now, that is insultive...shut the degrading up.

Now use ENGLISH and discuss about the added quote above.

What I responded to was obviously grammatically incorrect English that made some of it unintelligible. There are objective multiple errors in it, your irrelevant but arrogating references to “topical presentation” notwithstanding.

Emphasizing the running game is not some major process change. It is Football 101. It is also still irrelevant to the claim I countered that corporate shill Spagnola made, which you took and digressed into what has now become such blowhard nonsense that it makes me believe you either wrote it or are emotionally invested in someone involved with it.

This bores me.

 

[blueblood70]

...over the past 11 seasons, meaning 2014-24, they have posted seven winning years, three losing ones (all connected to losing their starting quarterback) and one at 8-8.

Their overall regular season record is 105-75, a .583 winning percentage that includes five NFC East titles and three seconds, and two wins short of tying the Eagles for the seventh most in the NFL during that span. Of course, the Chiefs are tops with 132, that's 20 more than the 112 of the Steelers and Packers, tied for second most. McCarthy was responsible for 43 of those Packers wins, and 49 of the Cowboys' 11-year total, Jason Garrett the other 56.

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/spagnola-back-off-taking-this-shot-with-schotty

(from the article you instead state an agenda of a personal stereotype)

 

[CCBoy]

Little shill the corporate wee man did the job he was paid for....I'm just surprised it's a few days late.

He didn't present a stupid representation and was closer to fact than a prejudiced view here. I root for the sport played by Dallas and not my own sense of rejection for sacrifice and respectful play by team.

Me, I'm a fan, not a bookie.

 

[CCBoy]

What I responded to was obviously grammatically incorrect English that made some of it unintelligible. There are objective multiple errors in it, your irrelevant but arrogating references to “topical presentation” notwithstanding.

Emphasizing the running game is not some major process change. It is Football 101. It is also still irrelevant to the claim I countered that corporate shill Spagnola made, which you took and digressed into what has now become such blowhard nonsense that it makes me believe you either wrote it or are emotionally invested in someone involved with it.

This bores me.

Stay off my posts then. No, you want your preferred mind's eye thrown up and not discussion. Here, you are a liar and English has nothing to do with normal talking.

You can't continue to lie and have metal of ethics at the same time. Understand social discussion founded by the Greek civilization of discipline of oldest organization in the Federal Government, the Army.

No, you prefer insulting to a topical discussion and then claim abstract validity. You crap my way, that will be challenged. If YOU can't handle it....shut up or own up.

 

[Runwildboys]

The more things change…. Spags in for another one of his devil’s advocate defenses.

Going to be a sad day in the Star when Spags is gone and no one left at DC.Com to give us the ‘let’s consider this…’ defense.

Few weeks back was watching an ESPN piece on teams hiring new coaches. They lumped all teams together for the next head coaching hires since they were all looking at the same talent but kept the Cowboys piece coaching pool separate since as they explained it, Jerry does it his way. Everyone from Coach Prime to Schottenheimer, they had interviews no one else in the league was trying.

If it was year 8 of 30 in the Jones Years I might buy it, but just more business as usual.

Am I wrong in believing that Shotty is building his own coaching staff and assistants? That alone would be a welcome change, on the verge of a paradigm shift!

 

[Runwildboys]

I agree with the first sentence. The second has no effect on how I believe i should act. There are times I have failed in that.

Neil Peart, the drummer for Rush (RIP) once said..."If you do good you get good", and couldn't understand why that approach often failed.

Because he was wrong, that's why. You do good because you ARE good. Regardless of consequences.

I may be wrong, but I believe when bullflop said, "I also tend to expect consideration for how I treat others as a result of my actions.", he meant that if he doesn't receive equal consideration, his approach may change.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Stay off my posts then. No, you want your preferred mind's eye thrown up and not discussion. Here, you are a liar and English has nothing to do with normal talking.

You can't continue to lie and have metal of ethics at the same time. Understand social discussion founded by the Greek civilization of discipline of oldest organization in the Federal Government, the Army.

No, you prefer insulting to a topical discussion and then claim abstract validity. You crap my way, that will be challenged. If YOU can't handle it....shut up or own up.

You responded to me dumb dumb and made it personal. I responded to words in the article.

 

[CCBoy]

The only difference between a Jerry Jones speech and a Mickey Spagnola written article is Mickey does use correct grammar within the English language..

...and some of it actually is correct, smart, and of true value.

Jerry understands similarly but doesn't present his educated perspectives in an insultively intended focus with disrespect and not projected merit the reason,

He does know and uses football and learned experiences as points in team, not satisfaction, to adjust value from perspective gained.

His actions can over come prejudices in analysis.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I may be wrong, but I believe when bullflop said, "I also tend to expect consideration for how I treat others as a result of my actions.", he meant that if he doesn't receive equal consideration, his approach may change.

Yes sir...and that is where I TEND to disagree.

It's a little bit like "eye for an eye makes the whole world blind". You can't just keep escalting things...it's exactly what "they" want. Drag you down with them.

I believe ignoring the ignoble responses, persistent "consideration" regardless...is the correct tactic. Maintain ones dignity and civility rather than joining in. I believe responding in kind makes one no better.

And I already admitted failing in such things. Not proud of it!

 

[MarcusRock]

Contact for mod check the well-being of long-term posters who suddenly stop posting. The contact email could be 100% voluntary.
No.......ONLY mod would have access to emergency contact info.

Got it. That would be asking a lot of the Mods though given how many pass through here.

 

[CCBoy]

You responded to me dumb dumb and made it personal. I responded to words in the article.

You responded to words...wooo hooo. See a recruiter or get a degree or have a $100,000 income tax filing...try talking football, not attitude, guy.

Playing with words isn't reasonable discussion. Boring?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

...and some of it actually is correct, smart, and of true value.

Jerry understands similarly but doesn't present his educated perspectives in an insultively intended focus with disrespect and not projected merit the reason,

He does know and uses football and learned experiences as points in team, not satisfaction, to adjust value from perspective gained.

His actions can over come prejudices in analysis.

You did "over come" wrong.

I mean your AI processor did.

What a bunch of horsey sauce anyway.

 

[rambo2]

No other team was interested in hiring this guy as HC, why should anyone be excited about this hire?

They now have a younger coaching staff which brings energy. They plan on running the football to set up the play action pass. They cut Zeke and have a deep draft of running backs to chose from. They have picks 12 and 44 that gives them a chance at some outstanding players. They can create 100 million cap space. There is a lot to be excited about.

 

[Runwildboys]

Yes sir...and that is where I TEND to disagree.

It's a little bit like "eye for an eye makes the whole world blind". You can't just keep escalting things...it's exactly what "they" want. Drag you down with them.

I believe ignoring the ignoble responses, persistent "consideration" regardless...is the correct tactic. Maintain ones dignity and civility rather than joining in. I believe responding in kind makes one no better.

And I already admitted failing in such things. Not proud of it!

TBH, I don't recall ever seeing bullflop resort to insults or harsh words towards fellow CZers.