*SPOILERS*The Walking Dead Season 4– First half of season

[Angus12]

It's a show that features zombies. You're going to have to expect some reaches. If you are expecting real life realism, I don't know what to say.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

It's a show that features zombies. You're going to have to expect some reaches. If you are expecting real life realism, I don't know what to say.

No... I don't expect realism. LOL!

If I did, I wouldn't be watching the show.

 

[Angus12]

No... I don't expect realism. LOL!

If I did, I wouldn't be watching the show.

Ahhh, ok. You kinda threw me off with this comment.

One of the things that does bother me as far as the realism goes is the absence of critters feeding on the bodies either as totally dead or as the walking dead. They're rotting meat. Crows and other critters should be all over them... moving or not.

 

[Rack]

I expect a certain amount of realism, within the boundaries of that "World". I mean... I expect a Dodge Charger that's mowing down zombies left and right to not "all of the sudden" get the real wheels "Stuck" on a 3 foot pile of undead.

But I don't expect everyone to go around complaining about the smell for 55 minutes of every episode (and not just the smell of death, I mean c'mon... people gotta be stinking pretty bad at this point).

 

[Denim Chicken]

The only suspect at this point for feeding the rats is that one little girl who named the walkers.
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I have a feeling about the black guy that was going on the run with Daryl. Not Tyrese, the guy that was surprised he was invited to go.

 

[the_h0wey]

I have a feeling about the black guy that was going on the run with Daryl. Not Tyrese, the guy that was surprised he was invited to go.

You cant trust him. He was a drug dealer on The Wire.

 

[CowboyGil]

The thing that got me was when Rick was 'investigating' the burning of the bodies, he found what looked like a bloody smear left by a hand on the lower part of the doorway. So one or both were possibly alive when Carol burned them? Disturbing twist.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Ahhh, ok. You kinda threw me off with this comment.

That comment was more about the topic in general... i.e. movies/shows featuring the undead in total.

The thing that got me was when Rick was 'investigating' the burning of the bodies, he found what looked like a bloody smear left by a hand on the lower part of the doorway. So one or both were possibly alive when Carol burned them? Disturbing twist.

The bloody smear was Carol's hand print.

No... I would be 99% sure they were dead when she burned them. As shown previously, she's mastered "the knife blade through the skull and into the brain" kill. I would bet that it was the exact method she used to do the deed.

And of course they bleed and she was covered in it.

 

[Rack]

Even w/o the blood, you could tell they were dead before she burned them. There was no sign of struggle. The bodies were laying flat on their backs. If I were burned alive I don't think I'd lie down (literally) and take it.

 

[Stash]

This episode was better...I think I've mentioned it before, probably even in this thread, but don't read the freaking comics lol

If you did, you knew that Tyrese was going to come back even after he went surrounded. Thats pulled directly, though in the comic it happens pretty much when they first get to the prison while they are clearing it out.

I'm really interested to see how they plan on reacting to the herd. I guess it will be the combination of that and the spreading virus that is going to be the reason they leave the prison.

But I'm still really confused about how the governor is going to be re-introduced since they had Darryl say that the trail had gone cold. They should have just killed him off and been done with it.

Anyone else getting a bit tired of using a random herd as their storyline impetus for big changes?

This would mark the third time they use a random herd to simply push the cast in a new direction and I think that trick has run its course.

I would like to see more creative thinking.

And I for one, have no interest in this sickness storyline.

 

[Phoenix]

Ah, to have Romero take a stab at an episode or two...sigh....

http://www.blastr.com/2013-10-31/romero-blasts-walking-dead-being-too-much-soap-opera

Romero blasts Walking Dead for being too much of a 'soap opera'


Here’s an excerpt from the interview:

“They asked me to do a couple of episodes of The Walking Dead but I didn’t want to be a part of it. Basically it’s just a soap opera with a zombie occasionally. I always used the zombie as a character for satire or a political criticism and I find that missing in what’s happening now.”

 

[Rack]

Anyone else getting a bit tired of using a random herd as their storyline impetus for big changes?

This would mark the third time they use a random herd to simply push the cast in a new direction and I think that trick has run its course.

I would like to see more creative thinking.

And I for one, have no interest in this sickness storyline.

Well I think the point is the Zombies aren't the "Herd" but are actually the Herders. The "Living" are the ones getting herded.

 

[iceberg]

Ah, to have Romero take a stab at an episode or two...sigh....

http://www.blastr.com/2013-10-31/romero-blasts-walking-dead-being-too-much-soap-opera

Romero blasts Walking Dead for being too much of a 'soap opera'


Here’s an excerpt from the interview:

“They asked me to do a couple of episodes of The Walking Dead but I didn’t want to be a part of it. Basically it’s just a soap opera with a zombie occasionally. I always used the zombie as a character for satire or a political criticism and I find that missing in what’s happening now.”

they are 2 very different approaches and i can't blame them for not working together. romero was always after mankind being stupid and zombies being gory.

twd is about how people deal with living in that kind of world.

if twd is too much of a soap opera, romero was just too much ... stupid.

 

[Stryker44]

The thing that got me was when Rick was 'investigating' the burning of the bodies, he found what looked like a bloody smear left by a hand on the lower part of the doorway. So one or both were possibly alive when Carol burned them? Disturbing twist.

I doubt Carol would have the physical strength to drag each of them through the doorway against their will, so I think they were already dead.

Now if it was someone Tyrese's size that did the killing, I could see what you are saying.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

they are 2 very different approaches and i can't blame them for not working together. romero was always after mankind being stupid and zombies being gory.

twd is about how people deal with living in that kind of world.

if twd is too much of a soap opera, romero was just too much ... stupid.

When you're trying to fill as much air-time as what they are with a TV series, the "soap opera" aspect is going to come about. You can't simply have zombies chasing people for 60-minutes every episode. At some point deeper character development is going to come about.

In a 90 minute movie... Yeah you can get away with what George is saying.

 

[Stash]

Well I think the point is the Zombies aren't the "Herd" but are actually the Herders. The "Living" are the ones getting herded.

I see your point, as I feel the living are in fact, the walking dead the title refers to.

But the repetitive use of the herds as agents of change is just getting old with me.

Give me a different reason, or at least a better, more clarified reason for change rather than this.

It would be nice to start to see some bigger ideas come into play. They have an entire world of possibilities they can use.

 

[Stash]

they are 2 very different approaches and i can't blame them for not working together. romero was always after mankind being stupid and zombies being gory.

twd is about how people deal with living in that kind of world.

if twd is too much of a soap opera, romero was just too much ... stupid.

Romero sounds jealous of this show gaining the success and making the money that he never could.

He had a great original idea, but could never property capitalize on it.

Heck, he even managed to screw up the rights deal on the first one!

 

[Stryker44]

Romero to the Walking Dead is much like the converse of horror/suspense directors Alfred Hitchcock and John Carpenter to most modern "scary movies"

While it usually isn't true...sometimes the second version of an idea (remake) is better, as in the case of the Walking Dead.

 

[Rack]

I see your point, as I feel the living are in fact, the walking dead the title refers to.

But the repetitive use of the herds as agents of change is just getting old with me.

Give me a different reason, or at least a better, more clarified reason for change rather than this.

It would be nice to start to see some bigger ideas come into play. They have an entire world of possibilities they can use.

The really messed up part is how they haven't put in any effort at obtaining more powerful firepower. I mean... I 50CAL will end a herd of zombies in about 10 seconds. They wouldn't be that difficult to get either. THere's abandoned military vehicles all over the place. And they could probably get more powerful weapons than a 50 cal too.

Or forget weapons... what about a bulldozer? Do some fabricating and put some metal spikes on the "Shovel" end of it and BAM, you've cleared out 50+ zombies like nothing.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Romero to the Walking Dead is much like the converse of horror/suspense directors Alfred Hitchcock and John Carpenter to most modern "scary movies"

While it usually isn't true...sometimes the second version of an idea (remake) is better, as in the case of the Walking Dead.

Different.

Each is great in it's own way.

The original "Dawn" is rated 8 out of 10 on IMDb. That's pretty high praise.

And the tension in "Day" is in my opinion higher than what we've seen in any "TWD" episode.

Again, if Romero had to fill 16 hours of programming, he would need to do what they are doing in "TWD".

Actually Romero had praise for the first season of "TWD" under Darabont. And from a story aspect, I think the first season was superior to what we've seen since.