Sports 'He ripped us a new one': Cowboys newcomers quickly taking notice of Jason Garrett's standard

[jnday]

You're right. His reputation is strong with the people inside the league. He'll get interviews. And if he gets interviews, he'll get a shot just like he would have in Baltimore before he had HC experience.

Now, he couldn't win a fan vote for a new league job if that's how these things were decided. But then, that's not how these things are decided because fan votes don't count very much.

More times than not, there are fans on this board that expresses better football judgement than the Cowboys FO. I would feel better if Risen was the GM and Alexander was the owner calling the shots. They have been proven right more times than wrong. If you doubt me, just ask Risen about his abilities.

 

[cowboyblue22]

personally I think garrett has reached his peak as a coach but until tony romo retires he will continue to be the head coach because jerry and Stephen are comfortable with him and might as well keep him because they next one they hire will just be like he is a place holder. jerry will never hire another coach that will get credit winning a championship

 

[Doomsday101]

More times than not, there are fans on this board that expresses better football judgement than the Cowboys FO. I would feel better if Risen was the GM and Alexander was the owner calling the shots. They have been proven right more times than wrong. If you doubt me, just ask Risen about his abilities.

lol

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Where have you been? and some of the fans love him.

I'm here in an episode of your Twilight Zone called..."And Some Of The Fans Love Him (Really, No Joke),."

 

[DallasEast]

It is so funny how so many people get so upset about something so inconsequential.

Truth. People are correct in criticizing Garrett for what he has or hasn't done as head coach but spontaneously *****ing after reading something any coach has done and will continue to do in practically every sport's practice session is hilarious.

 

[dfense]

Why so negative?

I don't love Garrett, but give respect where it's due.

It does get old doesn't it? Same guys, same lame remarks.

 

[Idgit]

Sure it is. You keep telling yourself that. And then remember that "fan votes don't count very much."

I will. I can't remember....were we having this discussion back before Jason's big extension? Or were you still on the 'fans' votes matter' wagon then, too?

 

[Idgit]

More times than not, there are fans on this board that expresses better football judgement than the Cowboys FO. I would feel better if Risen was the GM and Alexander was the owner calling the shots. They have been proven right more times than wrong. If you doubt me, just ask Risen about his abilities.

Oh...I have no doubt Risen would agree with you.

But then, all Risen does is rail against the long shots, complain about the stop gaps, and then disappear from the threads when he's proven wrong. You're talking about a guy who wanted to draft Chance Warmack #1 overall, remember. It's a lot easier criticizing others ex-post facto than it is making the decisions in real-time.

 

[Alexander]

The point is that the NFL did respect him, at one point in time. Since then, the facts have born themselves out and he's established himself as a .500 coach. The book is out on him and he'll never see another head coaching job outside the Jones family.

That does not mean a whole lot. If mediocre head coaches like Mike Mularkey can find employment multiple times, so will Garrett.

Never underestimate how lazy NFL teams are to stray outside the box when making choices for their head coaches.

 

[knightrider94]

Why so negative?

I don't love Garrett, but give respect where it's due.

So, what you are saying is, you want us to respek his name?

 

[Idgit]

That does not mean a whole lot. If mediocre head coaches like Mike Mularkey can find employment multiple times, so will Garrett.

Never underestimate how lazy NFL teams are to stray outside the box when making choices for their head coaches.

Yep. That's a good point, and part of what I was thinking. If you're smart, presentable, and have a pedigree, teams are pretty comfortable taking a chance on you. People marvel that Jeff Fisher keeps employed, but there's a reason for it.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Probably a lot of "gosh darns" being thrown around.

Shut yo mouth!

 

[tico]

personally I think garrett has reached his peak as a coach but until tony romo retires he will continue to be the head coach because jerry and Stephen are comfortable with him and might as well keep him because they next one they hire will just be like he is a place holder. jerry will never hire another coach that will get credit winning a championship

If only we would be lucky like the Raiders...

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I like Garrett.

But he motivates his players and he has assistant coaches who are well regarded and want to work for him.

More than that I think he continues to work at his craft and improve every year.

No he isn't a top 5 coach. Then again there are only 5 of those and they don't come available.

You gotta like a coach, who, no matter what player it is, will be described as having a "work ethic," is "intelligent" and is "passionate" about the game. Who knew we had so many players ready to work, who are intelligent and passionate?

 

[dfense]

LOL, you are actually supporting this piece of **** coach?

Name a team that would hire him above the position coach level.

Ok, The Giants if they didn't have McDoodle. The Rams, Bills, (Rex won't make it through this season.) Lions, Colts, Bucs, Chargers come to mind right away.

If the Patriots start out 0-4 is Belichek an average coach with a great QB?

 

[Stash]

I will. I can't remember....were we having this discussion back before Jason's big extension? Or were you still on the 'fans' votes matter' wagon then, too?

We likely were. And guess what? No matter what the Joneses decided to do with their money, it doesn't make it 'right'. Timing is everything, and luckily for Garrett, he had his best season in his 'contract year'. We can talk for a long time about plenty of other players and coaches the Joneses have wasted millions of dollars on. Doesn't make any of those moves 'right' either.

And I'll always be on the 'fans' votes matter' wagon. They're the ones that actually pay the bills that make everything possible.

 

[Stash]

That does not mean a whole lot. If mediocre head coaches like Mike Mularkey can find employment multiple times, so will Garrett.

Never underestimate how lazy NFL teams are to stray outside the box when making choices for their head coaches.

You bring up a great point, but there are others that only get one shot as well, we'll have to wait and see.

 

[Doomsday101]

personally I think garrett has reached his peak as a coach but until tony romo retires he will continue to be the head coach because jerry and Stephen are comfortable with him and might as well keep him because they next one they hire will just be like he is a place holder. jerry will never hire another coach that will get credit winning a championship

Those without bias will credit or criticize any HC including Garrett and Jerry has no control over that.
For me I have no issue with people being critical of Garrett it goes with the job of HC after this past season it is understandable. What I don't get are those who will only be critical yet will give others credit for success.

 

[Doomsday101]

We likely were. And guess what? No matter what the Joneses decided to do with their money, it doesn't make it 'right'. Timing is everything, and luckily for Garrett, he had his best season in his 'contract year'. We can talk for a long time about plenty of other players and coaches the Joneses have wasted millions of dollars on. Doesn't make any of those moves 'right' either.

And I'll always be on the 'fans' votes matter' wagon. They're the ones that actually pay the bills that make everything possible.

and yet fans are the most fickled, if by chance the Cowboys do win a SB do the fans then change their tune? Of course fans themselves are wrong, if fans had their ways Landry would have been ran out of Dallas early on in his career. Of course this statement is always followed up by someone claiming I am making a comparison between Landry and Jason. I'm not my point is fans where dead wrong on Landry and thankfully he had an owner and GM who stuck by him despite what fans wanted. Now you can't find anyone who would have claimed they would have fired Tom.

 

[Primetime42]

That does not mean a whole lot. If mediocre head coaches like Mike Mularkey can find employment multiple times, so will Garrett.

Never underestimate how lazy NFL teams are to stray outside the box when making choices for their head coaches.

This is a fair point as well.