Sports Illustrated 2016 Redraft: Dak goes 1

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Zeke is great all the way around but I still pine for Bosa. A little. They're both just so darn good you can't go wrong.
Agreed. I'm glad we have Zeke, but I don't think a team could go wrong with either.
 

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Is occasionally playing well, enough to get traded up for at the #2 spot? lol

I mean, I'm not saying he won't be a good QB eventually, but if this redraft is based on last season, I don't get the reasoning.

Not all QBs look like world-beaters as rookies, so showing potential is still enough reason to value Wentz at No. 2.

I agree that if you are only going by how they played then Wentz doesn't deserve to go No. 2 above players like Bosa and Elliott, but I don't think a redraft this early can be based just on how they played as rookies. Potential still has to be considered.

When you're doing a five-year or 10-year look back, then you get a redraft based only on performance.
 

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I sure was surprised how bosa played. He was earning his spot

I'm just glad my eyes didn't let me down. I was beginning to question my ability to judge players based on some of the negative comments about Bosa. Bosa was my top choice. I didn't really like any of the QBs in the top five. And I had no problem with drafting Elliott because I had no doubt he would play well.

Of course, I also thought Bobby Carpenter was a solid pick when we took him, so I needed to redeem myself for that one.
 

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I t looks like I may have under rated Bosa. I really thought he might be a bust waiting to happen. I still think he is an ******* based on his holdout, but based on performance alone he looks worthy of where he was taken .... so far.

Well, we all miss sometimes. When I watched him, I saw a player who had the skills to beat tackles to the inside and outside with a variety of moves, was strong against the run and was good in pursuit. I didn't really see any flaws in his game as an end.

The only thing that concerned me was the drug rumors.

I still would not have been surprised to see us take him instead of Elliott if he had been available.
 

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Dak had arguably the best rookie season ever for a QB and held off a veteran QB that was top 5 at his position as recently as 2014. The chances are slim that Wentz could have matched Dak's success if he were on Cowboys. That's just how good Dak's season was. The most likely scenario would have been Wentz being replaced by Romo after he returned from injury.

If Dak had been on Philly's roster last year, there's a good chance he would have had a better season than Wentz. Dak was used to playing with lesser talent at Mississippi State. Wentz played for a team in college that was generally more talented than its competition. So playing with less talent would likely have been easier for Dak than Wentz in year one.
Who said Wentz would match Dak?
You just wasted a lot of words preaching tothe choir.
Maybe someone who believes that will read it.......
 

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Yep, it shows you how important defense is.

And it shows the fallacy of "all in" because any game can be decided on a play or two that knocks you out.

the team came out flat and unorganized. That's 100% on the coach. That 1st half was the worst playoff game I've seen them play
 

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I can only blame the coaching staff so much.

The players have to play.

agree but when your coach is sending 13 men into the huddle, under-utilizing his RB (somebody please tell me why Dunbar is over Zeke on 3rd down), failing to test the other teams weak/injured secondary quickly and often its the coaching.
 

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Exactly. Playing for the Rams wouldn't suddenly take away Dak's accuracy, decision making, leadership or off the charts poise. Would he have been as good? It's impossible to know, but Dak's biggest strengths, IMO, largely aren't a product of those around him.
When "fans" use that excuse I just laugh at their inability to judge football players
 

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agree but when your coach is sending 13 men into the huddle, under-utilizing his RB (somebody please tell me why Dunbar is over Zeke on 3rd down), failing to test the other teams weak/injured secondary quickly and often its the coaching.

Zeke should've gotten 30+ touches, said it before the game was played.

Back to the thread, franchise QBs should always go early. For that alone, I would take Dak over Zeke. But for their positions.....Zeke is better, at least right now.
 

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agree but when your coach is sending 13 men into the huddle, under-utilizing his RB (somebody please tell me why Dunbar is over Zeke on 3rd down), failing to test the other teams weak/injured secondary quickly and often its the coaching.
Coaching I agree but not for that reason, for not having the balls and starting Romo. And letting the media annoint dak presscott from 4th round talent to supreme leader and all world talent. As If having 3 all pro lineman, NFL leading rusher, best dallas TE all time and Dez Bryant we all know what he is capable of Pfft well that worked out, 1 and done just like Tony years ago...smh
 

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agree but when your coach is sending 13 men into the huddle, under-utilizing his RB (somebody please tell me why Dunbar is over Zeke on 3rd down), failing to test the other teams weak/injured secondary quickly and often its the coaching.

Some of that has to be on the coordinators.

In addition... And I posted this... Players have to play.

In addition Garret ain't going anywhere in the immediate future.
 
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