Sports Illustrated 2016 Redraft: Dak goes 1

[rambo2]

If we thought he was gonna be this good we would've taken him at 4.

No, they wouldn't. They would take Elliott which was the correct pick.

 

[SDCowboy]

Possibly potential since he did play well at times.

I'd go with Prescott, Elliott, Bosa as deserving the top three spots.

Is occasionally playing well, enough to get traded up for at the #2 spot? lol

I mean, I'm not saying he won't be a good QB eventually, but if this redraft is based on last season, I don't get the reasoning.

 

[rambo2]

I find it odd that almost all redrafts still have Wentz going #2 to the Eagles. I don't get how he showed nearly enough to still go second, much less for another team to still give picks to move up to get him there.

Dak wouldn't have showed anything going 1. It is hard play for bad teams. Give a good qb the best line and the best running back and it is much easier to play well.

 

[tyke1doe]

I mean, I suppose in always possible, but I can't see it, logically.

Because quarterbacks aren't judged simply by their first season. John Elway, Terry Bradshaw, Troy Aikman, Peyton Manning (do I need to go on) all looked like the incorrect overall picks in their respective drafts and based on their first year. Only Cowboys fans think Wentz's first year portends for how he'll perform the rest of his career. Most commentators and former NFL players believe he's going to be a star based on what they've seen from him, especially with his talent level and the lack of talent surrounding him.

Be that as it may, I'm not interested in arguing whether Wentz is better than Dak, whether Wentz will become a star or not.

I'm merely giving my opinion. The results are to be determined.

 

[tyke1doe]

Wow.........what is the weather like in Philly?

Sunny, with a touch of optimism.

 

[rambo2]

Qbs don't do well at the top of the draft because they are playing for bad teams.

 

[DFWJC]

I find it odd that almost all redrafts still have Wentz going #2 to the Eagles. I don't get how he showed nearly enough to still go second, much less for another team to still give picks to move up to get him there.

This assumes Philly wanted a QB.
Also, as you know, to properly evaluate a player you have to look at the team around them. They do have Dak ahead of Wentz.
But it might help to envision Dak on the Eagles and Wentz on the Cowboys just to get a basis on how each would have done in an alternate scenario.

 

[rambo2]

Because quarterbacks aren't judged simply by their first season. John Elway, Terry Bradshaw, Troy Aikman, Peyton Manning (do I need to go on) all looked like the incorrect overall picks in their respective drafts and based on their first year. Only Cowboys fans think Wentz's first year portends for how he'll perform the rest of his career. Most commentators and former NFL players believe he's going to be a star based on what they've seen from him, especially with his talent level.

Be that as it may, I'm not interested in arguing whether Wentz is better than Dak, whether Wentz will become a star or not.

I'm merely giving my opinion. The results are to be determined.

Wentz actually looks good playing for a bad team.

 

[rambo2]

This assumes Philly wanted a QB.
Also, as you know, to properly evaluate a player you have to look at the team around them. They do have Dak ahead of Wentz.
But it might help[ to envision Dak on the Eagle and Wentz on the Cowboys just to get a basis on how each would have done in an alternate scenario.

Wentz would be very good on the Cowboys.

 

[SDCowboy]

This assumes Philly wanted a QB.
Also, as you know, to properly evaluate a player you have to look at the team around them. They do have Dak ahead of Wentz.
But it might help[ to envision Dak on the Eagle and Wentz on the Cowboys just to get a basis on how each would have done in an alternate scenario.

That's a fair point, but going by last season, I wouldn't be surprised if Bosa went #2 instead, or even Zeke.

 

[DFWJC]

That's a fair point, but going by last season, I wouldn't be surprised if Bosa went #2 instead, or even Zeke.

Yep. Both were awesome.

The only reason I wouldn't argue with Wentz at #2 was because of the position he plays and their need to get a QB. It seemed the drop off was pretty steep after Dak and Wentz.
Then again, stud DE pass rushers are almost as hard to find as QBs. RBs on the other hand...not so much.

 

[SDCowboy]

Yep. Both were awesome.

The only reason I wouldn't argue with Wentz at #2 was because of the position he plays and their need to get a QB. It seemed the drop off was pretty steep after Dak and Wentz.
Then again, stud DE pass rushers are almost as hard to find as QBs. RBs on the other hand...not so much.

Fair enough. I'm not saying that I think Wentz would drop out of the first round, or even the top 10. I just don't know that he would go #2, and if he did, that another team would trade up for him. Who knows, though. That's the fun of these redrafts.

 

[JoeKing]

Hindsight is always 20/20. Cowboys had a great draft so let's continue that trend forward.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Dak wouldn't have showed anything going 1. It is hard play for bad teams. Give a good qb the best line and the best running back and it is much easier to play well.

Sanchez, Weeden, Cassel and Moore say hello.

It's a QB thing. I for the life of me can't understand why people put Dak down because of talent on the team but guys like Carr and Ryan are great despite the talent on their team

 

[Yakuza Rich]

He and Andrew luck has been given the gift of plot armor.

At least Luck has had some good seasons and saddled with a sorry team, sorry GM and a sorry owner.




YR

 

[percyhoward]

This assumes Philly wanted a QB.

Yep.

Funny how "need" even factors into re-drafts.

 

[tyke1doe]

Wentz actually looks good playing for a bad team.

He did. But many here don't want to acknowledge it. He showed signs of being a rookie. But he also showed the talent, skills, arm strength and poise that the Eagles saw when they traded up to draft him.

If the Cowboys had drafted Wentz, I dare say he would have been nearly as good as Dak. I give Dak the edge only because of his ability to scramble and he's more solid than Wentz and, IMO, can withstand brutal hits better than Wentz.

 

[gmoney112]

He did. But many here don't want to acknowledge it. He showed signs of being a rookie. But he also showed the talent, skills, arm strength and poise that the Eagles saw when they traded up to draft him.

If the Cowboys had drafted Wentz, I dare say he would have been nearly as good as Dak. I give Dak the edge only because of his ability to scramble and he's more solid than Wentz and, IMO, can withstand brutal hits better than Wentz.

If that's your honest opinion, then you didn't watch Wentz.

Dak is better in every aspect, and it's not even close. Wentz may have a bigger arm, but that's it.

 

[tyke1doe]

Sanchez, Weeden, Cassel and Moore say hello.

It's a QB thing. I for the life of me can't understand why people put Dak down because of talent on the team but guys like Carr and Ryan are great despite the talent on their team

First, who said Carr and Ryan are great?
Second, the body of work for Carr and Ryan is GREATER than Dak's body of work.

People are excited about Dak's future. I am too. But he's only been in the league one year. He has not established a track record yet.

Why are some Cowboys fans sssooo offended because people want to see him put together a string of good seasons before we anointed him? And I'm saying this as a Dak supporter who didn't want Romo to retake the starting position?

 

[tyke1doe]

If that's your honest opinion, then you didn't watch Wentz.

This is always the fall back. If one has a differing opinion, he doesn't know football or he didn't watch the game or yada, yada, yada. I guess the NFL commentators who had glowing things to say about Wentz didn't watch him either, even those assigned to broadcast his games.

Dak is better in every aspect, and it's not even close. Wentz may have a bigger arm, but that's it.

Dak also had the better team. And it's not even close.

Be that as it may, no one is putting down Dak - at least not me. That's the narrative that YOU have created to apply to people/fans who believe Wentz showed promise and will likely do better in the future.

But I'm not going to argue with you. You're entitled to your opinion as I am mine. The good thing about this debate is that the future will determine the outcome.