Sports Illustrated believes we should be in panic mode at RB

[Romo2Ogletree]

I am sure at least 20 other teams would love to be in our "panic mode"

 

[Eanwen]

I like what I saw from Randle enough to believe he'll do well. The Cowboys' running game may not be as good as last year but with a more experienced Zach Martin, Collins, and hopefully an improved pass defense it may not need to be.

I will say though that I wish the Cowboys had Chris Johnson instead of McFadden but whatevs.

 

[DFWJC]

Many did. Including many of us on this very board. Then amazing happened in the form of Scott Linehan's approach and Demarco's will.

And a way better line and a marginally better defense

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

Do you have a point here? Because I don't see it.

You claim I name call. Please point it out. Your straw man arguments are petty and small. Got something of substance., like maybe showing me where what I say is wrong?

I owned what I said last year. My sig was not a lost bet. I back what I say. When I'm wrong I admit it. But I say what I think.

All I have seen from you is calling me out.

Wanna talk football, or is this sniping, and back biting all you can muster?

My name isn't Pauline. If you don't think Gregory, Hardy and Jones aren't upgrades to Selvie, Spencer and Moore you're hopelessly confused about the topic of football. If you don't think Scandrick is a starter on many many teams you're blind and biased. Judging by your history here and elsewhere, see I know your poor track record, I'd say all those are true.

What humors me is the contradiction in your steadfast attack on predictions that don't mesh with your own and your plain as day history of failure in that respect. And the fact that your entire argument is based in the absence of an individual who was present when you made a fool of yourself previously.

Demarco Murray's here: 5-11.

Oh Noes Demarco Murray is gone: 5-11.

 

[AsthmaField]

It still amazes me that people could watch the offense last year and see the holes opened up for Murray...

... and watched what Marinelli did with little talent on defense...

... and then, when Dallas improves its offensive line by a pretty big margin (Collins)...

... and then see the improvements on the defense, including a first round defensive back (Jones), much improved pass rushers (Hardy, Gregory, Lawrence for a full year), a healthy Sean Lee, and a Rolando McClain that has been in an offseason program for the first time in three years...

And still predict a slide back to 8-8.

Utterly astounding.

The weight they give Murray for last year is incredible.

 

[popp1234]

It still amazes me that people could watch the offense last year and see the holes opened up for Murray...

... and watched what Marinelli did with little talent on defense...

... and then, when Dallas improves its offensive line by a pretty big margin (Collins)...

... and then see the improvements on the defense, including a first round defensive back (Jones), much improved pass rushers (Hardy, Gregory, Lawrence for a full year), a healthy Sean Lee, and a Rolando McClain that has been in an offseason program for the first time in three years...

And still predict a slide back to 8-8.

Utterly astounding.

The weight they give Murray for last year is incredible.

Bottom line, they have to pick something to write about to get clicks and ratings. If we had kept Murray, he would have been a "huge question mark" (because of his carries the previous year) heading into this season, in the "experts' " eyes. Now people act like he is the next Emmitt Smith. Emmitt was the epitome of greatness on a consistent level, not a good back that had one great season. Furthermore, they say we disrespect Murray...well, I say they disrespect the Oline and the rest of this team. I cannot wait for the season to start.

Now, I will excuse myself from this board for a while because the number of Murray threads is getting ridiculous and do nothing but feed the haters!

 

[Manster68]

I'll bet they predicted us to go 8-8 (or worse) last year also.

Hey, last year I predicted the Cowboys at 5-11.

 

[jnday]

It still amazes me that people could watch the offense last year and see the holes opened up for Murray...

... and watched what Marinelli did with little talent on defense...

... and then, when Dallas improves its offensive line by a pretty big margin (Collins)...

... and then see the improvements on the defense, including a first round defensive back (Jones), much improved pass rushers (Hardy, Gregory, Lawrence for a full year), a healthy Sean Lee, and a Rolando McClain that has been in an offseason program for the first time in three years...

And still predict a slide back to 8-8.

Utterly astounding.

The weight they give Murray for last year is incredible.

Collins hasn't proven anything at the pro level and considering that he is a rookie, he could have a hard time beating Leary out as a starter. Leary is no slouch. JJ Watt can confirm this. Long term, Collins may be an upgrade, but he is not at this point. How does that equal improvement on a big scale? For the coming season, it doesn't. Two years from now, it should be a different story though. Every first round rated lineman is not going to have the success that Martin had.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

i still want ingram though

 

[big dog cowboy]

But dismissing the possibility this team took a serious step back and outsmarted themselves isn't out of the question.

If it's not it's damn close.

 

[Bleu Star]

It still amazes me that people could watch the offense last year and see the holes opened up for Murray...

... and watched what Marinelli did with little talent on defense...

... and then, when Dallas improves its offensive line by a pretty big margin (Collins)...

... and then see the improvements on the defense, including a first round defensive back (Jones), much improved pass rushers (Hardy, Gregory, Lawrence for a full year), a healthy Sean Lee, and a Rolando McClain that has been in an offseason program for the first time in three years...

And still predict a slide back to 8-8.

Utterly astounding.

The weight they give Murray for last year is incredible.

The lack of weight given to Murray's performance last year by many of us is equally incredible. If all it took was a stellar offensive line to move the ball on the ground the running back position would have never been created. Those that completely dismiss Demarco amaze me to no end.

Our RBC concept has the "potential" to net a solid option at RB but it also had the potential to fall flat on its face. We need a real proven option in here and I hope one of those big 3 is in our sights.

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

Collins hasn't proven anything at the pro level and considering that he is a rookie, he could have a hard time beating Leary out as a starter. Leary is no slouch. JJ Watt can confirm this. Long term, Collins may be an upgrade, but he is not at this point. How does that equal improvement on a big scale? For the coming season, it doesn't. Two years from now, it should be a different story though. Every first round rated lineman is not going to have the success that Martin had.

If Martin was the only rookie to have success on the OL, then that point would have more merit. He's not. Frederick and Smith both had a great deal of success as well. They also weren't in nearly the spot that Collins will be if he is starting in between Smith and Frederick.

I know you've got it into your head that rookies have some sort of bar that they can't possibly cross, but the examples disputing that point have been provided to you on multiple occasions. Enough of them are on this team that it shouldn't be too difficult to grasp.

 

[BAT]

Bottom line, they have to pick something to write about to get clicks and ratings. If we had kept Murray, he would have been a "huge question mark" (because of his carries the previous year) heading into this season, in the "experts' " eyes. Now people act like he is the next Emmitt Smith. Emmitt was the epitome of greatness on a consistent level, not a good back that had one great season. Furthermore, they say we disrespect Murray...well, I say they disrespect the Oline and the rest of this team. I cannot wait for the season to start.

Now, I will excuse myself from this board for a while because the number of Murray threads is getting ridiculous and do nothing but feed the haters!

You have to understand that Emmitt was not the epitome of greatness either when he was up for a new contract. He had been in the league a whopping 3 years and coming off a SB win that was credited primarily to Aikman and the defense.

 

[jnday]

If Martin was the only rookie to have success on the OL, then that point would have more merit. He's not. Frederick and Smith both had a great deal of success as well. They also weren't in nearly the spot that Collins will be if he is starting in between Smith and Frederick.

I know you've got it into your head that rookies have some sort of bar that they can't possibly cross, but the examples disputing that point have been provided to you on multiple occasions. Enough of them are on this team that it shouldn't be too difficult to grasp.

Can you name the scrubs that Smith and Frederick replaced? Leary is no scrub. He is a solid starting OG. Big difference. Collins will have his rookie struggles just like Smith and Frederick.

 

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[evarc]

Many did. Including many of us on this very board. Then amazing happened in the form of Scott Linehan's approach and Demarco's will.

no our oline happened bud... not murray... our oline...

 

[Blackspider214]

Murray was a third round selection


last time I checked we have a first round choice, 4th overall in in the draft in mcFadden, a second round selection in Williams and a fifth round selection in Randle, I think we'll be just fine..

yeah It was such a tremendous loss when Dallas lost Hambrick, Julius Jones and Marion Barber..

What does draft position have to do with anything? McFadden was drafted in 2008 or around there. Hardly relevant now.

And Brady was a 6th and Romo undrafted. Compare that to others who have went 1st round. It's meaningless.

 

[BAT]

Bottom line, they have to pick something to write about to get clicks and ratings. If we had kept Murray, he would have been a "huge question mark" (because of his carries the previous year) heading into this season, in the "experts' " eyes. Now people act like he is the next Emmitt Smith. Emmitt was the epitome of greatness on a consistent level, not a good back that had one great season. Furthermore, they say we disrespect Murray...well, I say they disrespect the Oline and the rest of this team. I cannot wait for the season to start.

Now, I will excuse myself from this board for a while because the number of Murray threads is getting ridiculous and do nothing but feed the haters!

And FYI, don't consider myself a hater at all.

 

[5Stars]

My name isn't Pauline. If you don't think Gregory, Hardy and Jones aren't upgrades to Selvie, Spencer and Moore you're hopelessly confused about the topic of football. If you don't think Scandrick is a starter on many many teams you're blind and biased. Judging by your history here and elsewhere, see I know your poor track record, I'd say all those are true.

What humors me is the contradiction in your steadfast attack on predictions that don't mesh with your own and your plain as day history of failure in that respect. And the fact that your entire argument is based in the absence of an individual who was present when you made a fool of yourself previously.

Demarco Murray's here: 5-11.

Oh Noes Demarco Murray is gone: 5-11.

lol BAM! That was good, bro...

 

[5Stars]

It still amazes me that people could watch the offense last year and see the holes opened up for Murray...

... and watched what Marinelli did with little talent on defense...

... and then, when Dallas improves its offensive line by a pretty big margin (Collins)...

... and then see the improvements on the defense, including a first round defensive back (Jones), much improved pass rushers (Hardy, Gregory, Lawrence for a full year), a healthy Sean Lee, and a Rolando McClain that has been in an offseason program for the first time in three years...

And still predict a slide back to 8-8.

Utterly astounding.

The weight they give Murray for last year is incredible.

Exactly...some around here must think that Murray was the whole freaking team last year! Hell, I don't remember this much vetching when the NFL's All Time Rusher went to AZ! But, Murray left, so now the Cowboys are going to be in the scrap heap of the NFL? smh Screw Murray and the eagle he rode out on!