Sports Illustrated believes we should be in panic mode at RB

[5Stars]

Collins hasn't proven anything at the pro level and considering that he is a rookie, he could have a hard time beating Leary out as a starter. Leary is no slouch. JJ Watt can confirm this. Long term, Collins may be an upgrade, but he is not at this point. How does that equal improvement on a big scale? For the coming season, it doesn't. Two years from now, it should be a different story though. Every first round rated lineman is not going to have the success that Martin had.

wth? Martin is not the first to have success as a rook. What about Tyron? What about Fredrick? What did any of those guys do at the pro level prior to becoming a Cowboy?


The logic around here simply amazes me sometimes.

 

[5Stars]

If Martin was the only rookie to have success on the OL, then that point would have more merit. He's not. Frederick and Smith both had a great deal of success as well. They also weren't in nearly the spot that Collins will be if he is starting in between Smith and Frederick.

I know you've got it into your head that rookies have some sort of bar that they can't possibly cross, but the examples disputing that point have been provided to you on multiple occasions. Enough of them are on this team that it shouldn't be too difficult to grasp.

Before I read this, I almost pointed out the same thing as you did.

 

[jnday]

wth? Martin is not the first to have success as a rook. What about Tyron? What about Fredrick? What did any of those guys do at the pro level prior to becoming a Cowboy?


The logic around here simply amazes me sometimes.

As usual, you are a day late and a dollar short . You totally missed the point. You are still trying to argue about a thread from last month.

 

[BlueStar22]

Locally, they think we should be in panic mode too. I can't wait for media, locally and nationally to be wrong about Randle. My only concern for him on the field is whether he can hold on to the ball. Can't be worse than Demarco, right?

 

[5Stars]

As usual, you are a day late and a dollar short . You totally missed the point. You are still trying to argue about a thread from last month.

What? Last month? lmao Enlighten me on which thread.

 

[gmoney112]

I don't know what it is about football in general, but most "media" and "fans" are incredibly prone to kneejerking in this sport. It's amusing.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Sports Illustrated believes we should be in panic mode at RB

There is only one issue of SI that I pay any attention to every year.

Even if one of those fine ladies said something like that I still wouldn't believe it.

 

[Bleu Star]

Locally, they think we should be in panic mode too. I can't wait for media, locally and nationally to be wrong about Randle. My only concern for him on the field is whether he can hold on to the ball. Can't be worse than Demarco, right?

I also hope that people like SI, the local media, and many other outlets out there are dead wrong. I always root for the underdog. I have done it for years. Some have panned out. Others have disintegrated in the pan. Bottom line, if we don't engineer any trades of sorts I will be right there hoping it works well.

What I don't get here is how people that aren't falling for the whole RBC thing are being addressed. It's almost like you can't possibly be a Cowboys fan if you aren't falling for every piece of ******** they're shoveling down our throats. I find that incredibly lame. Perhaps the RBC thing will work out. Perhaps Ryan Williams will magically appear no longer worried about his surgical repair and look like the second coming of My boy Tashard Choice (lol..) Perhaps McFadden will benefit from being behind this all world line and remain healthy enough to provide the balance we desperately need to continue utilizing this year. Perhaps Randle has finally began to wear his brain forward instead of lopsided. Perhaps it will all work out. That's one of the great things about hope. We all have it and it often works out.

That said, there's also reason why many entities have contingency plans. Continuing to review our options via trade to strengthen EVERY position is both prudent and essential to the future success of this franchise (especially during Tony's shrinking window).

 

[Bleu Star]

There is only one issue of SI that I pay any attention to every year.

Even if one of those fine ladies said something like that I still wouldn't believe it.

I cant find one word to dispute your post. Not one..

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

wth? Martin is not the first to have success as a rook. What about Tyron? What about Fredrick? What did any of those guys do at the pro level prior to becoming a Cowboy?


The logic around here simply amazes me sometimes.

Devil's advocate is fine except when it is perpetual and used as group think.

 

[burmafrd]

There are some things that even some of the gomers here should be able to acknowledge:

Collins will at the least give Leary a serious battle and that position is now stronger then it was.
Our young O line players should improve even more as they gain experience.

While total production at RB might drop some the odds of it being significant are not very good despite all the hand wringing- and I think the Boys are not yet done at that position.

Only idiots really expect Hardy to be gone 10 games. The NFL is just desperate to make things look good as regards that area and their reasoning of trying to claim 4 separate incidents that all happened at the same time will not hold up- if the arbiter is stupid then Doty will slap the NFL down once again.

Rolondo from all accounts loves playing here. So any worries there are frankly bogus.

Gregory is the one real question for me- has the guy figured it out yet and does he have the personal discipline to keep clean?

As regards Sean Lee I frankly have stopped counting on him no matter what.


I see no reason for the boys to slip this year- unless of course we get hit with injuries which comes to all teams at one time or another.

 

[gmoney112]

There are some things that even some of the gomers here should be able to acknowledge:

Collins will at the least give Leary a serious battle and that position is now stronger then it was.
Our young O line players should improve even more as they gain experience.

While total production at RB might drop some the odds of it being significant are not very good despite all the hand wringing- and I think the Boys are not yet done at that position.

Only idiots really expect Hardy to be gone 10 games. The NFL is just desperate to make things look good as regards that area and their reasoning of trying to claim 4 separate incidents that all happened at the same time will not hold up- if the arbiter is stupid then Doty will slap the NFL down once again.

Rolondo from all accounts loves playing here. So any worries there are frankly bogus.

Gregory is the one real question for me- has the guy figured it out yet and does he have the personal discipline to keep clean?

As regards Sean Lee I frankly have stopped counting on him no matter what.


I see no reason for the boys to slip this year- unless of course we get hit with injuries which comes to all teams at one time or another.

Haha, yeah basically. We may lose efficiency because Murray was pretty good, but we're not going to all of a sudden start averaging 2 yards a carry unless our OL collectively fall off a cliff, literally and figuratively.

 

[Plumfool]

I also hope that people like SI, the local media, and many other outlets out there are dead wrong. I always root for the underdog. I have done it for years. Some have panned out. Others have disintegrated in the pan. Bottom line, if we don't engineer any trades of sorts I will be right there hoping it works well.

What I don't get here is how people that aren't falling for the whole RBC thing are being addressed. It's almost like you can't possibly be a Cowboys fan if you aren't falling for every piece of bull**** they're shoveling down our throats. I find that incredibly lame. Perhaps the RBC thing will work out. Perhaps Ryan Williams will magically appear no longer worried about his surgical repair and look like the second coming of My boy Tashard Choice (lol..) Perhaps McFadden will benefit from being behind this all world line and remain healthy enough to provide the balance we desperately need to continue utilizing this year. Perhaps Randle has finally began to wear his brain forward instead of lopsided. Perhaps it will all work out. That's one of the great things about hope. We all have it and it often works out.

That said, there's also reason why many entities have contingency plans. Continuing to review our options via trade to strengthen EVERY position is both prudent and essential to the future success of this franchise (especially during Tony's shrinking window).

Contingency plans are great, as long as they make sense and do not cost more than your actual plan. As long as the backs on the roster currently can keep the offense in manageable 2nd and 3rd downs And keep Romo from getting flattened then it's a win. And IMO that's what this team is trying to accomplish.

 

[5Stars]

Devil's advocate is fine except when it is perpetual and used as group think.

I have some concerns about this years team, but nothing about running back or the offensive line. My concerns revolve around the free safety and corner back. But, this nonsense about losing one player, Murrray, is going to be the downfall of the whole freaking team? Or, some nonsense about a rook that was a 1st round projected 10th player taken cannot have any success? Some around here want probowl players at every position and even that there would be some crying about something.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Here is the deal, fans/reporters are just too far away from the organization to see what the coaches and jerry see. They see Ryan Williams and Randle every day. Even last year they were hinting at Randle being the guy. as fans, especially ones that believe in the organization, we have no choice but to trust their judgement.

Jerry's judgment? Eh, not so much

The coaches judgment? Yes!

 

[Alexander]

wth? Martin is not the first to have success as a rook. What about Tyron? What about Fredrick? What did any of those guys do at the pro level prior to becoming a Cowboy?


The logic around here simply amazes me sometimes.

I am just amazed that we get a top 20 or so player for next to nothing, yet he "hasn't proven anything".

If we simply took him in the regular draft, he would already be penciled in the starting lineup ahead of Leary and hailed as a starter.

 

[TwoDeep3]

My name isn't Pauline. If you don't think Gregory, Hardy and Jones aren't upgrades to Selvie, Spencer and Moore you're hopelessly confused about the topic of football. If you don't think Scandrick is a starter on many many teams you're blind and biased. Judging by your history here and elsewhere, see I know your poor track record, I'd say all those are true.

What humors me is the contradiction in your steadfast attack on predictions that don't mesh with your own and your plain as day history of failure in that respect. And the fact that your entire argument is based in the absence of an individual who was present when you made a fool of yourself previously.

Demarco Murray's here: 5-11.

Oh Noes Demarco Murray is gone: 5-11.

Scandrick is what he is. Not greatness but steady. And of the 32 teams who have two starting corners, he would not start on more than half of those teams. Three rookies may be an upgrade, but fresh out of the box, probably not much of one. That does not preclude them being so one day. But not the first day, week, month.

I don't see anywhere that I have predicted anything other than to suggest people roll back this giddiness that the team has somehow upgraded over last year since the dynamics of the offense may vastly change without a great running attack. And while I am not a stats guy, there was a comment in a thread by one of the NFLN analysts which outlined the lack of production the people this team currently has have produced.

And then Jerry is talking about a better running game.

My opinion is Jerry is setting it up to dangle the right offer to the Vokes. Else this move to take away the focus of last years offense is a tad foolish.

Your initial post, and the follow up were meant to insult. But then your last comment wasn't exactly filled with this football wisdom you were suggesting I lack if I disagree.

But then this is the ilk of the ones who can't stand a real discussion about the team without it being filled with dreaming about titles.

But I do enjoy those hell bent on ridiculing people for their opinions, and then nnot putting their own out for public display.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Exactly...some around here must think that Murray was the whole freaking team last year! Hell, I don't remember this much vetching when the NFL's All Time Rusher went to AZ! But, Murray left, so now the Cowboys are going to be in the scrap heap of the NFL? smh Screw Murray and the eagle he rode out on!

If it wasn't broke, why fix it?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

As usual, you are a day late and a dollar short . You totally missed the point. You are still trying to argue about a thread from last month.

I don't think he did. I think you are dissembling from your original statement and trying to make it about something else.

His argument of the success of Smith and Martin absolutely applies to you poo-pooing Collins ability to contribute early.

The recent success of Smith, Martin, Fred and to a lesser extent Leary speaks directly to your comments:

Collins hasn't proven anything at the pro level and considering that he is a rookie, he could have a hard time beating Leary out as a starter.

 

[5Stars]

I am just amazed that we get a top 20 or so player for next to nothing, yet he "hasn't proven anything".

If we simply took him in the regular draft, he would already be penciled in the starting lineup ahead of Leary and hailed as a starter.

I actually think that he might win out in training camp. That dude has a BIG chip on his shoulder for what happened to him. And, this "hasn't proven anything" stuff applies to every new player entering the NFL. Some work out, some don't...but I think this big ugly is going to not only work out, but he is going to work some others out!