Spotrac's projected QB extensions based on calculated market value; What is Dak's?

[Chasing6]

That number for all those QBs seems a little low to me. I would have to believe that if Dak was willing to sign for $50M per the deal would already be done.

Most likely guaranteed money.

 

[acr731]

Aren't they the ones who keep running the costs for retaining such franchise QBs higher every year?

Of course they are, but they only do it for their own benefit. The more player x gets, whether he deserves it or not, the more the agent gets.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Mahomes is schedule to make $66M in 2025, $68M in 2026, $64M in 2027.

And $32m in 2028, $34m in 2028. They have plenty of wiggle room to kick that can down the road. As long as Mahomes doesn't turn into a pumpkin at 33 it's a beautiful contract for a franchise QB, a steal for the best in the league IMO.

 

[Zekeats]

How is Love less than Dak? He destroyed Dak in Daks backyard.

 

[FanofJerry]

I don't think any of those guys are worth those projected amounts.

Jordan Love might be worth it next season if he has a great 2024 season, but not after one season of starting.

I won't be surprised if we start seeing more and more teams start moving on from most quarterbacks after their rookie contracts.

Many NFL quarterbacks (all positions really) are not worth tying up that much cap space when they are an injury away from being done for the season.

At some point, when a player requires you invest more than 15% of the salary cap in them, it makes more sense to throw numbers at the position rather than gamble that 1) the player will perform as or better than expected and 2) they will avoid injuries and be able to play at their expected level all season.

As long as you dont shift blame to the players for the high prices...

This is the owners, gm's and agents fault for the QB market.

Those three individuals along with supply and demand and "we're just a QB away" is what drives the market. Not the player playing hard ball and being the "greedy" one in negotiations.

The creator likes to project evil on the non-evil person in situations. Your wording is fuzzy, but reads more toward the player being at fault

 

[America's Cowboy]

The salary cap is an agreement between the owners and the players’ union (NFLPA). It can’t exist in the United States outside of a collective bargaining agreement. The players are not going to concern themselves with the fortunes of 20 to 30 players. They’ll concentrate their efforts on the thousands of players, over the course of an agreement, that play for the minimum and whose careers last an average of fewer than three years. The players union, like all unions, have a duty to the majority of their members. They are not going to bargain separately for a select few lest they find themselves in front of a Federal Labor Board. Forget the idea of getting Dak Prescott signing for less than some NFL ownership group is willing to pay him. CeeDee isn’t going to. Micah isn’t going to. Watson didn’t. Burrow didn’t. Herbert didn’t. A.J. Brown didn’t. Do you see how it works? And the players hire agents to represent them. They pay, generally, 3% of the value of the contract to their agent. They expect their agents to live up to the agreements they sign. The NFLPA certifies agents. An agent that short sells his client will lose that certification in a heartbeat. And the CBA mandates a player using a certified agent may not directly negotiate with a team’s owner. And the owners know they may not negotiate directly with a player represented by an NFLPA certified agent. Todd France is certified by the NFLPA. He isn’t going to risk his career short selling Dak or any other client because Jerry Jones is old and/or has had too much Johnnie Walker Blue. Someday Jerry will have passed away, Dak’s career will be long over, and Todd France expects to still be representing professional athletes in contract negotiations. He isn’t going to forfeit his professionalism or fiduciary duties to put an end to the incessant whining of Cowboys fans who dream of trades for a haul of draft picks or discounts from their starting quarterback in contract negotiations. When Dak Prescott is offered a deal he wants he’ll sign it. For Dak, unlike Cowboys fans, it’s not personal. It’s not personal to Jerry Jones, either.

Ok, then don't complain while the Cowboys keep falling short of advancing past the divisional round of the playoffs. QBs keep getting filthy rich but your team sucks due to not enough good talent being affordable to keep around.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

How is Love less than Dak? He destroyed Dak in Daks backyard.

He destroyed Daks defense..

 

[Buzzbait]

For me, none of the players re worth some of the money being given in today’s NFL.
Dak is not worth 50 million. Lamb is not worth 30 million. Parsons is not worth 30 million for 2-3 plays per game.
But that’s the market. That’s part of an ever increasing salary cap. I’m a Dallas Cowboys fan, and for me, I much prefer Dak at QB for 50 million over all alternatives available until they draft a QB and give him the reins in year 1 or 2. I have zero interest in having more cap money but losing games because we have the worst QB in almost every game we play.
We have had cap space for years. We could have signed virtually anyone we wanted this year by getting those 3 deals done. The Joneses do mot believe in free agency. So I’m not worrying about the CAP.

Possibly, but for those who may not be aware, there is a minimum that must be met, teams must spend at least 89% of their cap allotment over a four-year timespan.

 

[America's Cowboy]

As long as you dont shift blame to the players for the high prices...

This is the owners, gm's and agents fault for the QB market.

Those three individuals along with supply and demand and "we're just a QB away" is what drives the market. Not the player playing hard ball and being the "greedy" one in negotiations.

The creator likes to project evil on the non-evil person in situations. Your wording is fuzzy, but reads more toward the player being at fault

True about the 3 who keep driving up QB yearly prices, but a QB could take a discount to help the team with more talent if the QB truly wanted. Nothing is stopping a QB from doing that. Difference is those QBs are definitely just as greedy.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Ok, then don't complain while the Cowboys keep falling short of advancing past the divisional round of the playoffs. QBs keep getting filthy rich but your team sucks due to not enough good talent being affordable to keep around.

The Cowboys don’t suck. Prescott doesn’t suck. And I don’t complain. The Cowboys are fine as is. I’m just not emotional about keeping Dak or moving on to a different quarterback.

 

[America's Cowboy]

The Cowboys don’t suck. Prescott doesn’t suck. And I don’t complain. The Cowboys are fine as is. I’m just not emotional about keeping Dak or moving on to a different quarterback.

I'm just saying, paying 3-5 players exorbitant amount of money while unable to pat more for a better playoff capable team has not work for the Cowboys to even come close to sniffing a Super Bowl for almost 30 years now.

 

[Chasing6]

And $32m in 2028, $34m in 2028. They have plenty of wiggle room to kick that can down the road. As long as Mahomes doesn't turn into a pumpkin at 33 it's a beautiful contract for a franchise QB, a steal for the best in the league IMO.

You can guarantee his agent will be asking for money at some point.

 

[Reality]

As long as you dont shift blame to the players for the high prices...

This is the owners, gm's and agents fault for the QB market.

Those three individuals along with supply and demand and "we're just a QB away" is what drives the market. Not the player playing hard ball and being the "greedy" one in negotiations.

The creator likes to project evil on the non-evil person in situations. Your wording is fuzzy, but reads more toward the player being at fault

It sounds to me like you are projecting your own biases and insecurities since my post was focused on the salary cap.

If there was no salary cap I would not care how much NFL teams pay players because NFL teams are multi-billion dollar corporations and their valuations increase every year.

There is a salary cap though and I do not think it is smart to tie up a large chunk of the salary cap on one or two players because it severely limits and impacts the team's roster while also gambling that the players will not get injured and miss games and live up to team expectations.

So far the increase in quarterback contracts has been offset by most teams devaluing the running back position and relying more on younger players than average veteran players.

That offset buffer though has been depleted for most teams who have post-rookie contract franchise quarterbacks, so something else will have to give or be de-valued soon.

 

[America's Cowboy]

It sounds to me like you are projecting your own biases and insecurities since my post was focused on the salary cap.

If there was no salary cap I would not care how much NFL teams pay players because NFL teams are multi-billion dollar corporations and their valuations increase every year.

There is a salary cap though and I do not think it is smart to tie up a large chunk of the salary cap on one or two players because it severely limits and impacts the team's roster while also gambling that the players will not get injured and miss games and live up to team expectations.

So far the increase in quarterback contracts has been offset by most teams devaluing the running back position and relying more on younger players than average veteran players.

That offset buffer though has been depleted for most teams who have post-rookie contract franchise quarterbacks, so something else will have to give or be de-valued soon.

Well said, @Reality !

 

[Buzzbait]

First of all, if you don't want a QB cap, why have a team salary cap where a QB's yearly market cost keeps increasing beyond the pace a team's salary cap space gets increased (or not) every 2 - 4 years.

Exactly! That's why I would support a cap on the maximum percentage of the team's cap for a QB or any single player.

 

[Chasing6]

I'm just saying, paying 3-5 players exorbitant amount of money while unable to pat more for a better playoff capable team has not work for the Cowboys to even come close to sniffing a Super Bowl for almost 30 years now.

You mean GM Jethro's strategy of paying a lot of money to who sell's the most jersey's is not working?

 

[RoboQB]

Ok, make the argument for each of those QBs having more upside than Dak WHILE INCLUDING their Spotrac new contract value.

Is Sportrac handling all contract negotiations now?
Maybe we should ask Kurt Warner first.

Personally, youth alone puts Love ahead of Dak.
He has a ton of upside and a cannon for an arm.
I wouldn't want to sign Tua. Too fragile.
Trevor Lawrence would be a great signing.
"Sunshine" QBing America's Team.
But Jacksonville will never let him go.

 

[Buzzbait]

Well said, @Reality !

I'll second that!
Hey if they want a free market then make it a free market by dumping the salary cap all together!
But A salary cap totally dominated by QBs is not a free market. That provides a free market for QBs only!

 

[FanofJerry]

I'll second that!
Hey if they want a free market then make it a free market by dumping the salary cap all together!
But A salary cap totally dominated by QBs is not a free market. That provides a free market for QBs only!

It's the owners that are thirsty for qb play and paying out the high cap percentages for a qb...not the player.

It's the owner afraid of letting a guy walk. Not the qbs fault he knows another team will pay him.

Stop blaming the player.

 

[FanofJerry]

It sounds to me like you are projecting your own biases and insecurities since my post was focused on the salary cap.

If there was no salary cap I would not care how much NFL teams pay players because NFL teams are multi-billion dollar corporations and their valuations increase every year.

There is a salary cap though and I do not think it is smart to tie up a large chunk of the salary cap on one or two players because it severely limits and impacts the team's roster while also gambling that the players will not get injured and miss games and live up to team expectations.

So far the increase in quarterback contracts has been offset by most teams devaluing the running back position and relying more on younger players than average veteran players.

That offset buffer though has been depleted for most teams who have post-rookie contract franchise quarterbacks, so something else will have to give or be de-valued soon.

But you would turn your back on your entire post if you were a GM that felt your team was very solid in all aspects but lacked a qb....and Brock Purdy was on the market to the highest bidder.

Don't lie about it.

The above scenario is common in the NFL as teams churn rosters year in and year out. One of the 30 teams is going to feel confident and strong about their young team and be willing to spend. And you would to in that situation.

Instead you get to sit here and lie about being a trailblazer and that you wouldn't do it.

And you're going to let Purdy walk because you want offer him more than 15% of cap? Lol...ok.