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The Jazz are missing too many easy shots. Kirilenko, the highest paid Jazz at $12 million, needs to roam the floor more and score 15-20 points per game. It is sad to see Fisher playing so badly. His child's illness may be on his mind. Okur looks scard. Hopefully, Kirilenko, Fisher, and Okur need to step up in Game 3 in order for Utah to win.
 

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I noticed this play last night and really felt it displayed San Antonio's intesity and focus in this series... so when I came across this column talking about it, I thought I'd post it.

Spurs Master The Details
Posted by Marty Burns
SportsIllustrated.com


It was a simple mistake, just a momentary brain cramp by Spurs center Francisco Elson. While defending a Jazz pick-and-roll play late in the second quarter, the 6-11 reserve failed to close out on Utah’s Mehmet Okur. Naturally, Okur nailed the three-pointer.

Spurs point guard Tony Parker looked at Elson in disbelief. The little point guard even stomped his foot. San Antonio coach Gregg Popovich immediately called timeout.

The Spurs were winning by, I think, 15 points at the time.

That otherwise insignificant play speaks volumes as to why San Antonio is up 2-0 over the Jazz and looking like a good bet to make its fourth NBA Finals appearance in nine years.

The Spurs are all business right now. They are paying attention to detail. They are not giving Utah an inch.
 

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Danny White;1507539 said:
I noticed this play last night and really felt it displayed San Antonio's intesity and focus in this series... so when I came across this column talking about it, I thought I'd post it.

I saw that play. I saw it develop and it wasn't just Parker who got upset with Elson. Several of the other players were yelling at him. Pop yelled for the timeout and walked out and met Elson at around the free throw line just yelling at him. He then slapped him on the butt. Elson was taken out of the game during the time out. It took a while for him to get back in, too.
 

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Wilbon said there were lots of empty seats on Sunday night. I think he said 1000 to 1500. Man what a letdown of a WCF.

That's something I don't understand - where are the San Antonio fans? It's not like they have another sports team.

On a side but not unrelated note, I was slowly getting over the death of the Mavs, and here we are in the WCF, and I just happen to be making a trip to San Antonio this weekend. And the thought comes to me, if Dallas hadn't choked, games one and two would have been in Dallas and they would be playing game four this weekend, which I could've gone to.

And the feelings all come back.

This is going to be a long summer.
 

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well, im personally saving my money for the finals, maybe everyone else is too. ill go to game five tho, if there is one
 

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If they were going to be playing in SA this weekend I'd probably try to see Spurs v. Jazz.
 

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Whoa, what happened in game three? I expected the Jazz to take game three if they had anything in them, but I'd like to know what people thought who actually got to watch the game.
 

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spurs were complacent....AGAIN... a lot like game 2 against the suns, they think "oh we stole one there" or "we have a two game lead, we just have to win one". i actually thought wed loose that game, but i think will pull this one out tonight and win wednesday. Duncan's foul trouble also affected us when the going got tough.

i normally dont complain about officials, but man, the two games at utah have been HORRIBLE. And i dont mean just against the spurs, they are calling really weak crap on the jazz two, overall weak officiating.

ps JAVIE SUCKS!
 

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Just when I thought it might get interesting, I'll have to turn to the East Finals.
 

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i'm going tomorrow and i am READY TO PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


the spurs have never clinched the west at home, so it could be a VERY thrilling night in san antonio!!!!!!!

:D

GSG!
 

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Pretty scathing column by a Utah sports writer:

MONSON: Whining about whistles crosses line
By Gordon Monson
Tribune Columnist
Article Last Updated: 05/30/2007 09:33:00 AM MDT

This is gonna hurt me more than it hurts you.

But the home crowd deserves chastisement for the way it acted Monday night during Game 4. And if the subsequent talk around the water cooler runs along the same whining tone, then, everybody around here needs to snap out of it.

Classless is the first word that comes to mind in describing fan behavior Monday night. It was classless and pathetic. And, man, I'm from Philly.

I don't get wrapped up in what the nation thinks about Utah, even though it's my home. In fact, I couldn't care less, but the sports-interested part of it, those watching on ESPN, got an eyeful and earful during Game 4. And it wasn't much of which to be proud.

I've gotten e-mail from around the country, and much of it has ripped Jazz fans.

It went beyond the crowd repeatedly chanting, "Refs, you suck . . . Refs, you suck," although that was childish enough. (One of my least favorite moments was when Andrei Kirilenko tipped a Spurs pass out of bounds, a play that was originally called Jazz ball, but then reversed after the officials converged to discuss it, and the crowd started in with its chant, again. It was clearly the right call.)

The outrage at every whistle that went against the Jazz is what I'm talking about. Every whistle. Contrary to what some people think, the refs do get most calls correct, no matter what any of them see through their true-blue lenses. Nothing wrong with booing calls, but not every single one of them.

As I heard and saw the chaos and contempt in EnergySolutions Arena, I reflected back on the old Boston Garden crowds of the Larry Bird era. Those were knowledgeable fans who picked their spots to let the refs hear and know about their displeasure. But it wasn't constant. It wasn't incessant. It wasn't paranoid, booing as though somebody was out to get them.

The Jazz's home building has long stirred a reputation as a tough place to play, an intimidating setting for opposing teams, and maybe for officials, too. But the crowd loses credibility when it reacts the way it reacted Monday night. When it conjures the refs-you-suck chants - and ES Arena isn't the only place where such chants erupt - I figure that probably doesn't go a long way to favorably redirecting the manner in which a game is being called.

Neither does hurling obscenities at the refs.

Chucking debris onto the court isn't a great move, either.

One fan, seated near the floor, repeatedly flopped around in his chair like a flounder on a hot griddle. The vile words spewing from his mouth might have sheered the protective lacquer off the hardwood.

I saw the game, I know the Spurs shot 25 free throws in the fourth quarter, and the Jazz shot only two. But a lot of that had to do with the way the Spurs were aggressively attacking the Jazz defense. And the way the Jazz really were fouling the Spurs.

Some people said, "Yeah, but did you see the way Paul Millsap was mugged, or the way Manu Ginobili flopped?"

Yeah, I saw it. And I saw Deron Williams flop and I saw Tony Parker get smacked across his forearms on a shot attempt where no whistle blew. There was an assortment of missed calls - just like always, for and against each team.

Still, on the whole, the game was properly officiated. The calls reflected most of what was happening on the court. Jazz fans might hate Steve Javie, one of Monday's three officials, but he's one of the better refs in the NBA, even if he's willing to make difficult calls against the home team, and he tolerates little nonsense from coaches and players.

Bottom line: Don't blame the Jazz loss in Game 4 on the referees. Fight the inclination to automatically think your team is somehow getting hosed or ripped off. Leave the persecution complex in the minds of those who need medication.

Maybe the worst part of it was what my colleague Kurt Kragthorpe astutely pointed out in Tuesday's column: It was a shame that Jazz players left their home court Monday night, likely for the last time this season, under a shower of boos - aimed at the refs.

Among all the hate and paranoia, their crowd had forgotten them and their great run in these playoffs, focusing instead on imaginary injustice and outrage that blinded them, again, one last time.

gmonson@sltrib.com
 

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I have to say I was pretty shocked to see Utah fans do that. Just goes to show you that no one is infallible.
 

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MC KAos;1513659 said:
end of first quarter, but this game is pretty much over

4:26 left in the second quarter - SA 50, Utah 32

I would have to agree.
 

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If you've followed this Spurs team for any length of time you'd have known two facts:

Fact 1: The Spurs would stink it up in one of the two games in Utah.

Fact 2: The Spurs, when given a chance to close out at home against an inferior team, won't mess around.

Now... why I didn't take these two facts and use them to bet heavily? Well that's a mystery. :banghead:
 

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OK Spurs fans, who do you want?

A rematch with the Pistons or a chance to teach the "King" a thing or two?

Personally, I say the Cavs. I think LeBron gives the series more sex appeal (so to speak) and I think the horrible coaching of the Cavs makes it impossible that we lose this series. Although whoever we play from the East, there'll be a serious coaching mis-match.
 

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Thank goodness this awful series is over (stupid Mavs grumble grumble).

I'd like to see a different face (Cleveland) in the Finals this year. Plus, I have family from Cleveland.

Of course, I also have family from Detroit. Dad's side bleeds Ohio State, Mom's side bleeds Michigan.

And I'm a UT guy. Go figure.
 

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Danny White;1513721 said:
Although whoever we play from the East, there'll be a serious coaching mis-match.

You ain't kidding. Flip Saunders or Mike Brown? :puke:
 

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The Real Mavs Man;1513737 said:
Thank goodness this awful series is over (stupid Mavs grumble grumble).

Hey, I give you big credit... you're the one Mavs fans who's stuck around with the roundball talk even after your team was eliminated... and you didn't do it just to pile on the national media hate-fest against the Spurs.

You're a good fan, and don't get down... your team will be right in the mix of things next year.
 
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