ST: Report says Tony Romo may prefer release in off-season rather than a trade

[Deep_Freeze]

Worst analogy I have ever heard in my life. I dont even understand what you are trying to say....

Tony has a lot of say. He has veto power and can make this very hard for the Cowboys if he chooses

Yeah the analogy was terrible. But I have to say, its a business, he can't make it hard.....ok well if Jerry wants to listen it will be much harder.

 

[Clove]

Yeah the analogy was terrible. But I have to say, its a business, he can't make it hard.....ok well if Jerry wants to listen it will be much harder.

What say will he have if we keep him and eat the salary?

 

[TwentyOne]

Ummm. I love Tony. I really do. But uh... he's an asset. And I'd prefer to get something back for him rather than lose him for nothing.

Unless a straight release helps give us better salary cap relief. I don't know about that part of it. If it helps in that area and it's good for both parties, then okay cool.

You will get probably the same as a comensatory pick as if you would trade him.

 

[KingintheNorth]

If true, this is an ugly side of Romo. This is basically saying the Cowboys should receive no compensation for him, even though they made him a star and a multi-millionaire.

It would be one thing if the Cowboys were trying to get huge compensation and/or would only trade him to a team of their choice.

My guess is that Jerry will let him pick his own team AND will not expect much in return, thus not creating a situation where his new team loses so much they won't be able to compete.

I have mentioned a mock trade of Romo to Denver for Bradley Roby, a 2017 4th, and a conditional 2018 pick. Denver would still be a championship caliber team with Romo, minus their 3rd CB, a 4th round pick, and a 2018 pick that depends on just how well they did. Romo is one of my favorite players but he has no business screwing over the Cowboys on his way out.

 

[RJ_MacReady]

Dead Money. We're eating dead money whether he is released or traded. What was it....like 19M?

Romo can pick whatever team he wants to play for.....from the list of teams that offer trades to Dallas. We're into him too much financially to do something stupid like that and gift a top QB to a team for free (base salary) while we eat the remainder of that guaranteed money.

"What's that? Oh..you want us to release you, Tony? That's cute. Hold that thought, the Jets are on the other line.."

 

[Deep_Freeze]

What say will he have if we keep him and eat the salary?

Nothing.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

So Romo has given up competing for the starting job next season. Sheez. Really Romo, finally you have competition at qb and you won't fight for the job.

"compete for the job"

Romo is better than Dak right now. RIGHT NOW. But can't get on the field. Just because you don't understand the economics and the reality of the situation...doesn't mean Tony doesn't.

 

[Nightman]

To my thinking, if Jerry were to allow his affection for Tony to interfere with his GM duty to get just compensation for him, it'd be a big mistake.

OTOH, if the money that could be saved by cutting him exceeds the benefits that we'd get from a trade, then cutting him would be preferable.

It doesn't...... a trade and a release are the same

 

[Nightman]

You will get probably the same as a comensatory pick as if you would trade him.

You don't get a pick if you cut someone

 

[Nightman]

What say will he have if we keep him and eat the salary?

They would simply restructure him and save 8m on the cap and still have the ability to trade him once the season starts and QBs get hurt...probably get more

 

[Thefeelofcotton]

My only concern with him wanting to be released is his salary cap hit. If they restructure his contract so that him outright getting released hits the cap less then I'm okay with it.

 

[Nightman]

First of all Jerry is never going to do that because he doesn't have too.

There's no way we are going to get a first round pick for Tony. Maybe at 33 but not at 36 going on 37. Becasue of that Romo doesn't have to worry about a team giving up a lot for him because it's just not going to happen.

Second, he doesn't have to release him in order to take care of him. Jerry is going to sit down and ask him where he'd like to go and cut a deal from there. He's never going to send him to the Browns, he wouldn't do that to him.

Keep your eye on this--

There are some rumors in western NY that the Bills are interested in Linehan and they could package Romo with him. They've got a lot of talent on that team but they've missed on two consecutive QB's. EJ Manual and Tyrod Taylor. Romo could really help them transition to the next one.

Starting QBs = First Round picks

They are simply too valuable and too scarce.....especially ProBowlers that are making 14m in non guaranteed money

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

"compete for the job"

Romo is better than Dak right now. RIGHT NOW. But can't get on the field. Just because you don't understand the economics and the reality of the situation...doesn't mean Tony doesn't.

Live in your 'so' called reality. I'm fine in mine.

 

[RJ_MacReady]

Starting QBs = First Round picks

They are simply too valuable and too scarce.....especially ProBowlers that are making 14m in non guaranteed money

BINGO! The team that trades for Romo will only have to pay 14M in 2017. I don't remember 2018, but wasn't it like 15 or 16M base salary? Either way, the next team is getting a complete steal if he stays healthy. That's why there will be teams lining up for a chance at a cheap 2-yr rental of a pro-bowl caliber QB. And that's why draft capitol will be put in play.

 

[Nightman]

BINGO! The team that trades for Romo will only have to pay 14M in 2017. I don't remember 2018, but wasn't it like 15 or 16M base salary? Either way, the next team is getting a complete steal if he stays healthy. That's why there will be teams lining up for a chance at a cheap 2-yr rental of a pro-bowl caliber QB. And that's why draft capitol will be put in play.

They would have Romo for 3 years at 54m but none if it is guaranteed...they could easily guarantee around 14m and get the average down for 2018-19........something like 3/42m with 14m initially guaranteed, another 10m guaranteed next March

 

[RJ_MacReady]

^^^ Even better point. I was thinking his contract was up in 2018.

 

[SDCowboy]

If true, this is an ugly side of Romo. This is basically saying the Cowboys should receive no compensation for him, even though they made him a star and a multi-millionaire.

It would be one thing if the Cowboys were trying to get huge compensation and/or would only trade him to a team of their choice.

My guess is that Jerry will let him pick his own team AND will not expect much in return, thus not creating a situation where his new team loses so much they won't be able to compete.

I have mentioned a mock trade of Romo to Denver for Bradley Roby, a 2017 4th, and a conditional 2018 pick. Denver would still be a championship caliber team with Romo, minus their 3rd CB, a 4th round pick, and a 2018 pick that depends on just how well they did. Romo is one of my favorite players but he has no business screwing over the Cowboys on his way out.

I don't think it would be ugly at all. If we're moving on (which hopefully the team will), why would he not want to be released?

 

[Bluefin]

My only concern with him wanting to be released is his salary cap hit. If they restructure his contract so that him outright getting released hits the cap less then I'm okay with it.

If Tony Romo is removed from the roster next year, be it by trade or release, the remaining cap hit for signing bonus money in future seasons would be the same.

$19.6M.

Restructuring can lower a player's base salary and that year's cap number, but doing so will increase future cap numbers by assigning more bonus money proration to those seasons (signing bonuses are paid up front but count in equal portions against the cap for up to 5 years).

Romo could agree to taking a pay cut next year with the chance to make back the money through various incentives, but the signing bonus money already attached to seasons 2017-19 can't be changed.

One way or another, that money will get charged against the salary cap.

Releasing/trading Romo next year will actually net $4.635M after a minimum salary player replaces the QB in the top 51.

Romo's future cap numbers, $25.2M in 2018 and $23.7M in 2018, would be wiped from the ledger.

It would represent $54M in cash savings, money that was to be paid to Romo in base salaries, and $52.56M in net salary cap savings after accounting for a contract taking his spot.

 

[Nightman]

I don't think it would be ugly at all. If we're moving on (which hopefully the team will), why would he not want to be released?

If Romo really loves this team then he takes a paycut down to 5m and stays as the back-up for 2 years

If his ego needs to be fed and he needs to start somewhere else and against us then treat him like a commodity and get value for him

He can't love this team and want to go somewhere else to beat us

 

[black label]

This is beyond stupid.