Stanback vs Ogletree for 5th Receiver Spot *Merge*

[zrinkill]

My objective argument would be that Ogletree has shown more in one training camp and two preseason games than Stanback has in four? years. I'm not sure what folks need from a guy to show that he can play and will be an asset to the team. All Ogletree has done is demonstrate an ability to run great routes and catch everything thrown at him, in practice as well as games. Can anyone point to anything that Stanback has done since he became a Cowboy that indicates he has the ability to be a wide receiver in the NFL?

I agree with this.

 

[jobberone]

Stanback has been awarded a roster spot for what? 3yrs now based on "potenial." And has failed miserably IMO to produce on that potential. Not one play to speak of... Not one KR Td with all that "speed" and athleticism...

It is time to try some new potential. Not just based on one game, but based on three years of a failed experiment.

They haven't had him around enough to evaluate well enough...at least not healthy enough. Which has been disappointing. I do agree he needs to produce. In the end my guess is his experience and potential will win out since Olgetree can go on the PS. Just a guess.

 

[ilovejerry]

In one thread, we have "Stanbach," "Steinbach," and "Staback."



It's a good thing T.J. Houshmandzadeh isn't on this team.

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: I called himstanbach hahahahahahhahaa who cares another wasted draft choice ....I this point keep Holly over him he's got the same hair

 

[ilovejerry]

"Staubach" will be cut soon........................................










































.................that's a joke son, don't ya' get it?

 

[VACowboy]

As far as "potential" goes, I can't say that I've noticed anything special about Stanback. He may be a supurb athlete with elite speed, but that's just what I've heard and read. I've never seen it on the field.

 

[Doomsday101]

I agree except I do like Stanback's potential. He may turn out to never translate that to the field or get injured and cut. But you're speaking like a trooper. The best player should get the nod. My guess is if Stanback doesn't get injured again they'll stash Olgetree on the PS pending an injury. The only way Stanback is going to push for playing time is if there is an injury or he outplays Hurd/Austin which looks unlikely.

Potential is one thing but he is getting past the point of leaning on potential or having it be a saving grace it has to come down to how are you playing now. The PS option is possible but Stanback needs to show something and he has not thus far. Again I don't have any set agenda against him I would love it if he came out and made some plays over the last 2 games but I would not hand him anything. Earn or not.

 

[TD-33]

Just wondering... *what if*
Stanback plays this week and gets time with Kitna/2nd team, has a huge game with maybe a long TD + whatever. If he had a big game would he still be considered by most too fragile to keep around?

 

[Doomsday101]

Just wondering... *what if*
Stanback plays this week and gets time with Kitna/2nd team, has a huge game with maybe a long TD + whatever. If he had a big game would he still be considered by most too fragile to keep around?

I think he has to show it in both remaining games as does Ogletree. My personal feelings is he is not fragile just a run of bad luck which can happen. I'm more concerned with him going out and making plays if he can do that in the next 2 games then maybe he earns that spot if not then Dallas needs to move on.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I hope he makes the squad. It'd be a shame to let him go.

 

[tyke1doe]

As far as "potential" goes, I can't say that I've noticed anything special about Stanback. He may be a supurb athlete with elite speed, but that's just what I've heard and read. I've never seen it on the field.

Randall Williams had great speed too. Wasn't he suppose to be a Cowboys receiver?

That's

what

I

thought.

 

[tyke1doe]

I hope he makes the squad. It'd be a shame to let him go.

Do you mean Olgetree?

If the Cowboys don't put Olgetree on the 53-man roster, he will be snatched up by another team.

Book.

It.

 

[DallasDomination]

Stanback still has life and if He performs in these comming games chances are He will make the team over tree. If he doesnt perform then I'm all for letting this guy go. I have been following him for a while now and I have always been high on his potential. But If he doesnt show it on the field, even a little then give the new guy a shot.

 

[Stash]

What drama.

I watched the game. I said I noticed his play. But they're not going to give up on Stanback nor give Olgetree a roster spot based on one game. They'll base their decisions on the body of evidence and not a snapshot. You keep thinking I'm touting one over the other despite my repeatedly stating I'm not a big fan of either.

Well your posts sure seem to indicate something different. You continually tout Stanback's physical skills while downplaying his complete lack of production, while at the same time minimizing what Ogletree has done to date.

My counter argument is the 'brittle Stanback is doomed to have another injury' and he can't translate his athleticism to the field. And I'm not anointing any UDFA after one game even if he is having a noticeable camp. Neither has done enough to be cut nor make the team. Not yet.

I disagree. Ogletree hasn't come out of nowhere and gotten lucky, he's been solid since he arrived in Dallas. Stanback has continued to produce nothing, both in the preseason and regular seasons.

It appears to me you have an axe to grind and are looking for an argument. If so then go grind it somewhere else.

Not looking for an argument, just to debate what I feel is faulty logic.

Nothing personal.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Do you mean Olgetree?

If the Cowboys don't put Olgetree on the 53-man roster, he will be snatched up by another team.

Book.

It.

Yeah stanback sucks. I was thinking the same thing about Ogletree. He was definitely a good pick up by us. No need to try to sneak him on the practice squad.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

we were fortunate to get Ogletree as a UDFA

let's not screw it up

 

[jchocolate82]

They haven't had him around enough to evaluate well enough...at least not healthy enough. Which has been disappointing. I do agree he needs to produce. In the end my guess is his experience and potential will win out since Olgetree can go on the PS. Just a guess.

Ogletree will not make it on the PS!!! He will get snatched up by some team before he hits the waivers. I was too a huge fan of Stanbacks I loved the athletic potential he possesed and salivated at the possibilities of him as a future WR for us. I'm sorry though project or not you have to show some kind of progression on the field which stanback hasnt done yet. I wish the dude well in his career but as far as in a Cowboys uniform his time is done in my opinion. I can only remember reading about Ogletree having one bad practice and that was the beginning of OTAs which is to be expected from a rookie and ever since then the kids been solid and consistent catching everything thrown his way. The dude has a lot of potential too but is further along as WR than Stanback is with his 3yrs in the league. I'm sorry but its time to churn that roster and it speaks volumes for Ogletree when multiple times from the other WRs, CBs, and our QB that his name keeps coming up in conversation. May the best man win that 5th spot but so far that best man is Ogletree.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

we were fortunate to get Ogletree as a UDFA

let's not screw it up

 

[Stash]

They haven't had him around enough to evaluate well enough...at least not healthy enough. Which has been disappointing. I do agree he needs to produce. In the end my guess is his experience and potential will win out since Olgetree can go on the PS. Just a guess.

I would disagree that Ogletree would make it to the practice squad.

So you'd be forced to make a choice, keep the project who hasn't produced for three years, or keep the undrafted rookie who has in the first few weeks.

 

[Section446]

If he does it would mean 3 of our WRs are UDFAs and another one is a 7th round pick who converted positions. Pretty amazing when you think about it.

You didn't know? Jerry Jones is incapable of evaluating talent.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I would disagree that Ogletree would make it to the practice squad.

So you'd be forced to make a choice, keep the project who hasn't produced for three years, or keep the undrafted rookie who has in the first few weeks.

I can't see 31 teams passing on Ogletree again, after hearing all the positive reports, and seeing him against Tennessee