Star-Telegram - Surprise!! Barber gets the lower 1st rd tender

[Jordan55]

So if Barber gets traded to another team and Julius does not sign does that mean the boys will have nothing but rookies playing RB?

We sign Turner, and use the the first round pick to move up a get the back we want.

 

[masomenos]

I guess the point I'm trying to make is I'll take a 1st for Marion.

Even if it's a late 1st, like #25 from Seattle?

 

[Woods]

Even if it's a late 1st, like #25 from Seattle?

I think if it's in the 5 year $25mm range, we could match, for example.

But if it's crazy, crazy money, we'll pass.

I think this is one of those times where JJ will let the market help set the price for the player so we can set the terms for a long term contract.

 

[dmq]

Even if it's a late 1st, like #25 from Seattle?

It is more then just the pick. He is obviously looking for Starter/Pro-Bowl money. I love the guy as a player, but I just don't think he is worth it. So, give me Seattles pic.

 

[Bizwah]

I don't see why people are getting all riled up here.

We will not lose Barber.

This is a RB rich draft. Why take a player (albeit a PB player) in FA, when you can draft one?

RBs can be found in any draft in any round. JJ knows this. He knows that there's a small chance of losing Barber. If we do lose him, then we'll be armed with three picks in the first round.

This gives us time to negotiate a better deal, and saves us valuable cap space.

 

[WoodysGirl]

I think if it's in the 5 year $25mm range, we could match, for example.

But if it's crazy, crazy money, we'll pass.

I think this is one of those times where JJ will let the market help set the price for the player so we can set the terms for a long term contract.

I think they might want to offer him something in the 14-20m range.

Ask yourself this, if you're looking at Barber's work as a whole, do you give him franchise running back money? Or do you offer him solid RB money. I'd offer him solid RB money.

It's been mentioned before that this is a deep RB draft.

I don't see why people are getting all riled up here.

We will not lose Barber.

This is a RB rich draft. Why take a player (albeit a PB player) in FA, when you can draft one?

RBs can be found in any draft in any round. JJ knows this. He knows that there's a small chance of losing Barber. If we do lose him, then we'll be armed with three picks in the first round.

This gives us time to negotiate a better deal, and saves us valuable cap space.

Agreed

 

[masomenos]

I think if it's in the 5 year $25mm range, we could match, for example.

But if it's crazy, crazy money, we'll pass.

I think this is one of those times where JJ will let the market help set the price for the player so we can set the terms for a long term contract.

Economically I know that it makes sense, but the fan in me can't help but hate the idea of losing him. Three first round picks would give us a ton of flexibility and the RB class is incredibly deep this year. I just have to breathe, lol.

 

[Duane]

So a 1st and 3rd is a deal breaker on someone trying to sign Barber but a 1st isn't? I don't buy it.

 

[dmq]

We need 3 1st rounders to go after McFadden.

 

[Jaxonsdaddd]

I dont understand the position that some have taken regarding the benefit of acquiring another first round pick.

Ok, so we get another first round pick but we now have another hole that had to be filled. How is that making any progress???

 

[NinePointOh]

What everyone seems to be forgetting is that even if another team does think he's worth a first rounder and signs him to an offer sheet, we'd still have the option of matching the offer.

Whereas tendering him at the highest level might have outpriced any team that might want him, and thus prevented any offers whatsoever and forced us to pay him the largest salary (unless, of course we sign him to a long-term deal, in which case, the whole point about his tender is moot anyway), tendering him at the first round level gives us the option to potentially field some offers and ask "Is this guy, at the salary this other team has offered him, more valuable than this team's pick?"

If the answer to that question is yes, then the market has determined his value, we match the offer, and go on our merry way. If the answer is no, then apparently someone else is paying an exorbitant amount for him and/or would give us a very high draft pick straight up for him, which isn't an entirely bad situation.

Let's not forget that, as we all said when Washington traded Bailey for Portis, runningback is one of the easiest positions at which to find a starter.

 

[Goldenrichards83]

I love Barber and all but if we can get a 1st for him and sign Micheal Turner in the offseason we will be just fine. 3 #1s. We could do some damage with that.

 

[alancdc]

i agree it is an odd move but i think jj gets mb3 locked up long term and this is all a moot issue.

I agree, at least I hope. Does anyone think that his attitude is important to this team as well? What price do we put on that? Practically every time he came into the game it seemed to raise the level of play of our offense. How about him catching passes out of the backfield? Can you put a price on having a "nose" for the end zone? This guy is an every down back that has had to split time, up until now, for some reason. If we lose this guy and it is a pick below 20 we will regret this move every time we watch the guy play. The draft is a freakin' crap shoot I don't care where we pick and we know what we have already in Barber.

 

[Goldenrichards83]

I dont understand the position that some have taken regarding the benefit of acquiring another first round pick.

Ok, so we get another first round pick but we now have another hole that had to be filled. How is that making any progress???

Signing Micheal Turner would fill that hole and we have 3 1st rders.

 

[NinePointOh]

So a 1st and 3rd is a deal breaker on someone trying to sign Barber but a 1st isn't? I don't buy it.

I don't see why it's hard to fathom. Look at the runningbacks who should be available in the 1st and 2nd rounds and tell me how many you think are better than Pro Bowler Marion Barber. Okay, that's why you might consider giving up a first rounder for him.

Now look again at the runningbacks who should be available in the 1st and 2nd rounds and tell me why in the world you'd spend any more than a 1st round pick this offseason to acquire a runningback, even if he's Marion Barber. That's why you wouldn't give up a 1st and a 3rd rounder.

 

[Doomsday101]

It is almost like we are dangeling (sp?) the bait for other teams to give us the #1......wow!

Dallas would also have the right to match any offer made.

 

[joseephuss]

By offering Barber the lower tender, it gives Barber more a chance to see what his market value is at this time. The higher tender would have discouraged more teams from offering him a contract. Now with the lower value, teams that otherwise would have stayed away may negotiate with Barber. Marion can then come back to Jerry with a truer sense of his market value. This will give both sides more info to work on a long term contract. This is the main objective, so as to avoid losing Barber next year as a unrestricted free agent and get nothing in return.

I think it benefits both Barber and Dallas and is not the worst move to make. The best move would have been to go ahead and sign him to a long term contract, but of course that did not happen.

 

[iceberg]

I think they might want to offer him something in the 14-20m range.

Ask yourself this, if you're looking at Barber's work as a whole, do you give him franchise running back money? Or do you offer him solid RB money. I'd offer him solid RB money.

It's been mentioned before that this is a deep RB draft.

Agreed

i give him solid RB money for what he's done, now what we as fans HOPE he'll do as we move on.

for the WAH patrol who says this is foolish to save only $500k - in the end what difference does it make? if a team is prepared to give up a 1st rounder, giving up a 3rd also isn't that big a deal at this point either.

and again, we have the right to match. the ball is still in our court.

barber for $x amount
or 1st round pick at at given slot.

this opens up options for the team as a whole.

i don't want to lose barber, don't get me wrong. but the WAH patrol is as usual managing a business with their hearts first and the claws come out against jones.

if a team wanted barber bad enough to give up a 1st round pick and pay him what he wants, a 3rd rounder won't deter them from making the move in either event.

 

[ndanger]

They just said on the radio that they have untill 3:00 this afternoon to make a decision and that one has not been made yet on any of the free agents.

 

[DCBoysfan]

I know Jerry and co. are smart, and I'm sure they did all the research in the world. But if you a team with a lower draft number and you was looking for a running back. Why not just tender Barber instead if drafting one. He is a proven comidity (sp). I think the gambler in Jerry is taking over.