Start, Bench, Cut – Aikman, Romo, Dak

[America's Cowboy]

People post stupid **** like this and then expect to be taken seriously.

Childish people post attackful rants without backing them up.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

People post stupid **** like this and then expect to be taken seriously.

No reason to call someones post "stupid". We're all Cowboy fans here let's be respectful.

 

[Captain-Crash]

Troy, Tony, and cut the glitcher, dak.

 

[DFWJC]

Nice quiet thread for Monday ...

Me:
Start - Aikman
Bench - Romo
Cut - Dak

COWBOYS!

Yeah....seems like a no-brainer to me.

But I'd probably do cut, bench, trade

 

[DFWJC]

start roger
Bench Troy
Cut the rest!!!

Roger was the man

 

[DFWJC]

Start - Romo
Bench - Aikman
Cut - Dak

I suspect Tony has 1-2 rings with Aikman's rosters, but I doubt he has all three.
I'm sure Aikman would not have a ring with Tony's teams, but who would.

I'd go with Aikman then Tony....jmo

 

[America's Cowboy]

You just provided evidence that you're wrong.
2006-2014 (2015 and 2010 are not good seasons to use as Romo was out most of both). 22 ppg average allowed.

2016-2022 (minus 2020 same reason as above): 20 ppg average allowed. The ONLY year the defense had bad numbers during Dak's tenure is the year he missed.

How is allowing 22 ppg "much better" than allowing 20 ppg?

"Very good group of Rbs" - Overrated Barber, and the likes of Julius and Felix Jones?" Murray is really the only reliable guy he had, and they didn't use him much.
"Very good OL" - in 2014 only, and a solid one in 2007.

Everything I stated was based on facts. Romo had better Defenses around him than Dak's had overall throughout their careers. 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012 were better Defenses for Romo than Dak had in 2021, 2020, 2019 and 2016. That's not including 2022 where the Cowboys Defense gave up an average of 27.5 points, still higher than most of Romo's Defenses.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/co...s Cowboys put up 27.5 points per game in 2022.

The stats are there in the statmuse link I provided.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/cowboys-defensive-rankings-by-year-2000-to-2021

So, no, the stats I provided actually support what I said: Romo had better Defenses around him than Dak has had throughout most of their careers.

As for the rushing attack surrounding both Romo and Dak during their careers, the only year (between 2004 - 2021) the Cowboys had below 1,500 rushing yards was the 2012 season. The rest of the times, Cowboys QBs have been surrounded by 1,500+ rushing attacks (which should be good enough to keep opposing Defenses honest).

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/cowboys-rushing-yards-by-year-2004-to-2021

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I suspect Tony has 1-2 rings with Aikman's rosters, but I doubt he has all three.
I'm sure Aikman would not have a ring with Tony's teams, but who would.

I'd go with Aikman then Tony....jmo

No doubt in my mind Aikman would've won a ring in 2007 with 13 Pro Bowlers. No doubt in my mind. Aikman and TO?

 

[5Stars]

Troy, Tony, and cut the glitcher, dak.

shhh, be careful talking about #4...it just turns into a civil war over
#9...#9...#9. I'm the walrus burner account...easy bro...someone is watching you.

 

[DFWJC]

No doubt in my mind Aikman would've won a ring in 2007 with 13 Pro Bowlers. No doubt in my mind. Aikman and TO?

Nah....they would not have beaten the Patriots....who they lost to by 3 TDs that year
Plus, TO was hurt in the playoffs
Everyone knows that midseason all fan voting Pro Bowl was a joke. Maybe 5 of those players deserved it.
Finally, Wade Phillips was not the coach Jimmy was, clearly
Btw, that was Romos 1st full year starting, he was a better player late in his career. Troy wasnt full Troy either in his 1st full year as a starter.

2007 was a Good team though!

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Nah....they would not have beaten the Patriots....who they lost to by 3 TDs that year
Plus, TO was hurt in the playoffs
Everyone knows that midseason all fan voting Pro Bowl was a joke. Maybe 5 of those players deserved it.
Finally, Wade Phillips was not the coach Jimmy was, clearly
Btw, that was Romos 1st full year starting, he was a better player late in his career. Troy wasnt full Troy either in his 1st full year as a starter.

2007 was a Good team though!

Naw I remember that 2007 team very well. The only guy you can say possibly got in based on reputation was Roy Williams. The rest of those guys played at a HIGH LEVEL. And I have no doubt in my mind that if Aikman was in the SB against Brady he would've went toe to toe with him. He didn't fold under pressure. He would've never lost to that Giants team in 2007 either. It was Romo's 1st full year as a starter but he was 26 by then. He had been in the league learning.

And you are right Wade wasn't the coach Jimmy was but he didn't need to be. Not in 2007.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

shhh, be careful talking about #4...it just turns into a civil war over
#9...#9...#9. I'm the walrus burner account...easy bro...someone is watching you.

Nobody pays him or you any mind lol. You are the only one to even mention his most lol. Most people have both of y'all on ignore anyway lol.

 

[pitt33]

Start Aikman

Cut Romo & Prescott. They’re basically the same quarterback who both came/come up small in big moments. And Danny White was 10x better than both of them. He took his team to three straight NFC championship games.

The last two Dallas Cowboy quarterbacks haven’t sniffed one.

 

[5Stars]

Nobody pays him or you any mind lol. You are the only one to even mention his most lol. Most people have both of y'all on ignore anyway lol.

I have more burner accounts that you don't even know about...then lost all my money betting on #4.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I have more burner accounts that you don't even know about...then lost all my money betting on #4.

Very good point about your burner accounts....

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Start Aikman

Cut Romo & Prescott. They’re basically the same quarterback who both came/come up small in big moments. And Danny White was 10x better than both of them. He took his team to three straight NFC championship games.

The last two Dallas Cowboy quarterbacks haven’t sniffed one.

Its not Romo or Dak's fault they haven't "sniffed" A NFC championship game. So you guys give Aikman credit for the 3 SB's but not the Hall of Fame team he played with?

 

[DFWJC]

Naw I remember that 2007 team very well. The only guy you can say possibly got in based on reputation was Roy Williams. The rest of those guys played at a HIGH LEVEL. And I have no doubt in my mind that if Aikman was in the SB against Brady he would've went toe to toe with him. He didn't fold under pressure. He would've never lost to that Giants team in 2007 either. It was Romo's 1st full year as a starter but he was 26 by then. He had been in the league learning.

And you are right Wade wasn't the coach Jimmy was but he didn't need to be. Not in 2007.

I don't think Troy would've led that team to a Super Bowl, but we'll never know either way.
Just agree to disagree on that one.

I do know that, Troy didn't play defense and that Pats' offense was the highest-scoring of all time.
The Giants D just got red hot and their pass rush went to another level.
The Pats score 30+ on Dallas, just like they did earlier that year.

Fwiw, Tony DID throw what should've been the game-winning pass to Crayton with 17 seconds to go.
But maybe the game doesn't come down to that if Troy was QB.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I don't think Troy would've led that team to a Super Bowl, but we'll never know either way.
Just agree to disagree on that one.

I do know that, Troy didn't play defense and that Pats' offense was the highest-scoring of all time.
The Giants D just got red hot and their pass rush went to another level.
The Pats score 30+ on Dallas, just like they did earlier that year.

Fwiw, Tony DID throw what should've been the game-winning pass to Crayton with 17 seconds to go.
But maybe the game doesn't come down to that if Troy was QB.

They scored 38 points on that Giants defense just a few games prior. That Giants D was not that great against the Cowboys. I twas more about how sluggish the Cowboys looked then it was the Giants. Pats wouldn't have put 38 points on the Cowboys....paced would've slowed down tremendously not too ay they don't put points up but that Cowboys defense was pretty good.

 

[L-O-Jete]

Everything I stated was based on facts. Romo had better Defenses around him than Dak's had overall throughout their careers. 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012 were better Defenses for Romo than Dak had in 2021, 2020, 2019 and 2016. That's not including 2022 where the Cowboys Defense gave up an average of 27.5 points, still higher than most of Romo's Defenses.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/cowboys-defense-average-points-per-game#:~:text=The Dallas Cowboys put up 27.5 points per game in 2022.

The stats are there in the statmuse link I provided.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/cowboys-defensive-rankings-by-year-2000-to-2021

So, no, the stats I provided actually support what I said: Romo had better Defenses around him than Dak has had throughout most of their careers.

As for the rushing attack surrounding both Romo and Dak during their careers, the only year (between 2004 - 2021) the Cowboys had below 1,500 rushing yards was the 2012 season. The rest of the times, Cowboys QBs have been surrounded by 1,500+ rushing attacks (which should be good enough to keep opposing Defenses honest).

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/cowboys-rushing-yards-by-year-2004-to-2021

I think scoring averages have gone steadily up in the NFL, what was the NFL avg. for those years?

 

[DFWJC]

They scored 38 points on that Giants defense just a few games prior. That Giants D was not that great against the Cowboys. I twas more about how sluggish the Cowboys looked then it was the Giants. Pats wouldn't have put 38 points on the Cowboys....paced would've slowed down tremendously not too ay they don't put points up but that Cowboys defense was pretty good.

In the playoffs, Giants held the

Cowboys to 17 (ave 28.4)
Packers to 20 (ave 27.2)
Pats to 14 (ave 36.8)

They were rolling.

I do think Dallas should've beaten the Giants and just had too many screwups. I'll never think they were better than the Pats though.
I feel certain that prime 1994 Aikman or 2014 Romo would've led them to the win over NY.... especially if they sewed it up before that play with 17 seconds left (that was the same throw any version of QB would've made...perfect...but no dice)

All make-believe and speculation anyway, I guess.

Go Cowboys