State Of The Dallas Cowboys: The Head Coach

[CCBoy]

That should have read Hatcher.

 

[Zman5]

So no Smith, Dez, Fred, Martin, Scandrick, Lee, Murray and maybe Carter??

Dez, Scandrick and Lee were drafted when Wade was the HC.

 

[jobberone]

Dez, Scandrick and Lee were drafted when Wade was the HC.

Scandrick played a normal amt of snaps in 2010. Lee only had 169 snaps and Dez about 1/2 the nl amt. But that wasn't the point. It was young guys on the roster not being drafted when and by whom.

 

[waving monkey]

So you find the prospect of rewarding mediocrity and status quo 'amusing'?

An interesting position to take.

no I think he might listening to all the outlandish insults

So you find the prospect of rewarding mediocrity and status quo 'amusing'?

An interesting position to take.

Watching Red rebuild this team and the effort theteam gives isn't mediocrity. You dont like
what is being done at VR that's fine but Red is turning this ocean liner around and thats a big curve.

 

[junk]

Watching Red rebuild this team and the effort theteam gives isn't mediocrity. You dont like
what is being done at VR that's fine but Red is turning this ocean liner around and thats a big curve.

How?

This team was a playoff team the year he took over and hasn't been back since. That is with the benefit of all the talent brought in by the former regimes.

Teams don't need 10 years to turn around. Look at the good coaches in the league and what they are able to accomplish in a short period of time.

Pete Carroll took a 5-11 (4-10 the year before) team and had them in the playoffs the next year (as did Parcells). Within 3 years, he had double digit wins and in his fourth he had a Super Bowl.

Garrett isn't even on a remotely similar track and he started out in a far better position.

 

[Stash]

I don't. I think I've made it pretty clear why I don't think Garrett is a mediocre coach for Dallas.

No, but there's no denying the results being mediocre.

8-8, 8-8, and 8-8 speak louder and clearer than any form of interpretation.

 

[Stash]

no I think he might listening to all the outlandish insults

Watching Red rebuild this team and the effort theteam gives isn't mediocrity. You dont like
what is being done at VR that's fine but Red is turning this ocean liner around and thats a big curve.

Where has that been shown?

Was it 8-8, 8-8, or 8-8?

 

[waving monkey]

How?

This team was a playoff team the year he took over and hasn't been back since. That is with the benefit of all the talent brought in by the former regimes.

Teams don't need 10 years to turn around. Look at the good coaches in the league and what they are able to accomplish in a short period of time.

Pete Carroll took a 5-11 (4-10 the year before) team and had them in the playoffs the next year (as did Parcells). Within 3 years, he had double digit wins and in his fourth he had a Super Bowl.

Garrett isn't even on a remotely similar track and he started out in a far better position.

well if you don't give any credence to tearing down from old unproductive players who were choking our
cap structure due to bad contracts then you'll dismiss my post. SF had been drafting at the top of the draft for quit
a while before the new coaching regime came on board. It's taking longer then I would like we're drafting in the middle each year.
and there's no cap space for FA. Thats what got us in this mess anyway.We'll be competitive in 2016 maybe 2015.

 

[waving monkey]

Where has that been shown?

Was it 8-8, 8-8, or 8-8?

it's a very large curve

 

[waving monkey]

I'm keeping an eye on the browns this year.They and the Rams are loaded.

 

[Zman5]

well if you don't give any credence to tearing down from old unproductive players who were choking our
cap structure due to bad contracts then you'll dismiss my post. SF had been drafting at the top of the draft for quit
a while before the new coaching regime came on board. It's taking longer then I would like we're drafting in the middle each year.
and there's no cap space for FA. Thats what got us in this mess anyway.We'll be competitive in 2016 maybe 2015.

Even with the same roster, I doubt Singletary would have done anything close to what Jim Harbaugh has done in SF.

 

[TwoDeep3]

But Jerry doesn't want to miss out on the profit from training Garrett to not speak unless spoken to.

 

[waving monkey]

Even with the same roster, I doubt Singletary would have done anything close to what Jim Harbaugh has done in SF.

Har baugh is a damn fine coach

 

[perrykemp]

I don't have the inclination to rank Garrett compared to entirety of other NFL coaches, however, if I had to rank the coaches in the NFC East it would look like the following:

• Coughlin
• Kelly
• JG
• Jay Gruden

JG gets the call over Jay Gruden because you really can't rank Gruden yet.

 

[Stash]

it's a very large curve

Ok, that was a good one!

 

[CCBoy]

How?

This team was a playoff team the year he took over and hasn't been back since. That is with the benefit of all the talent brought in by the former regimes.

Teams don't need 10 years to turn around. Look at the good coaches in the league and what they are able to accomplish in a short period of time.

Pete Carroll took a 5-11 (4-10 the year before) team and had them in the playoffs the next year (as did Parcells). Within 3 years, he had double digit wins and in his fourth he had a Super Bowl.

Garrett isn't even on a remotely similar track and he started out in a far better position.

Follow the bouncing ball and highlight changes to Green Bay and San Francisco following respective falls from grace...

 

[CCBoy]

I'm keeping an eye on the browns this year.They and the Rams are loaded.

Cincinnati is interesting again as well.

 

[junk]

Follow the bouncing ball and highlight changes to Green Bay and San Francisco following respective falls from grace...

I don't really see how GB or SF really compares to Dallas at all.

SF brought in a legit GM and HC that turned their fortunes around. That alone is different than Dallas. Not to mention that Harbaugh had SF in the NFC Championship Game in his first year and the Super Bowl in his second. That actually seems to reinforce my point more than anything. Good coaching (combined with a good front office) can turn around a team quickly. You don't need 3, 5 or 10 years to slowly build up.

GB also brought in a legit GM and HC to turn themselves around. Thompson in 05, McCarthy in 06. By 07, they were in the NFC Championship game. Again, further proving my point.

Thanks for the real world examples to really drive home what I was saying.

 

[CCBoy]

Try restudying history, and not referencing an agenda of a memory, following San Francisco's 'death sentence' by the NFL, for ownership breaking NFL rules flagrantly...and then when Green Bay was competing head to head with a strong Dallas team. They both floundered for over a decade before heading back up.

You made a carte blanche statement that no one else had floundered for a decade, but the lowly Cowboys. That is not the truth.

 

[junk]

Try restudying history, and not referencing an agenda of a memory, following San Francisco's 'death sentence' by the NFL, for ownership breaking NFL rules flagrantly...and then when Green Bay was competing head to head with a strong Dallas team. They both floundered for over a decade before heading back up.

You made a carte blanche statement that no one else had floundered for a decade, but the lowly Cowboys. That is not the truth.

Sure they floundered until they got the right front office and coach in place. Once they did, they improved rapidly. Dallas is in that floundering mode now since they don't have the right front office or coach in place

If they did, you'd see the rapid turnaround that we've seen in places like SF and GB