News: Staubach and Aikman back Dak

[Rockport]

If you want to give a perspective on my "ignorance" it helps to post something that attempts to accomplish it.

I did.

 

[RonnieT24]

I saw his concession speech as his decision to retire, not a "loser move". They'd already stated outright that there would be no competition for the starting position, IIRC, so fighting for his job when they wouldn't allow him to would be futile, and would only serve to drive a wedge through the team. I believe a big part of the reason he did that was to publicly show support for Dak and the rest of the team, which I find to be as gracious and team loyal as one can get.

Reasonable men can disagree. He didn't have to do the whole press conference thing .. He could have just sat quietly and let the team make the call. I wasn't talking about fighting for his job the following season.. I was talking about fighting for the chance to lead that loaded *** team to the playoffs. I would have asked for one game to show if I still had it or not.. then let the chips fall where they may. But that's just me.

 

[Hardline]

I did.

Where?

 

[jjktkk]

Hey @CATCH17 and @PAPPYDOG y'all should listen to the experts.

https://sports.yahoo.com/news-staubach-aikman-back-dak-125207160.html

Nice to see that Roger and Troy got their checks in the mail from Jerra.

 

[Runwildboys]

Reasonable men can disagree. He didn't have to do the whole press conference thing .. He could have just sat quietly and let the team make the call. I wasn't talking about fighting for his job the following season.. I was talking about fighting for the chance to lead that loaded *** team to the playoffs. I would have asked for one game to show if I still had it or not.. then let the chips fall where they may. But that's just me.

I know what you meant. They weren't going to allow him to compete for the job either way.

The speech was also a way to keep the fans from pitching a fit. I think he was trying to make sure we all supported Dak and the team. Guess he knows what some fans are like.

 

[RonnieT24]

I know what you meant. They weren't going to allow him to compete for the job either way.

The speech was also a way to keep the fans from pitching a fit. I think he was trying to make sure we all supported Dak and the team. Guess he knows what some fans are like.

Yeah he does live in Dallas.. probably listens to talk radio here.. so I am sure he knows..

 

[CowboyRoy]

exactly you can love what 9 did and root for Dak knowing 9's body gave out.....it doesnt have to be "I loved Romo so I hate Dak" its ridiculous.

I defended both guys against their attackers. Its very ironic to hear the same Romo defenders use the same tactics and pathetic criticisms they defended with Romo to discount Dak.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Both guys are easy to like.. Good dudes, great players. Mind you I hated Romo after the dropped FG attempt. I felt like it was a curse he would spend the rest of his career trying to live down. Which he kinda did. It was always something .. the back injuries.. the once a year visit from Mr. 3-4 INT game. EVen what should have been his shining moment in Green Bay we often forget that he had a receiver, Street? wide open for an easy first down but he went for it all with the throw to Dez. And it was a dime.. but the smarter play with Aaron Rodgers on the other sideline would have been to move the chains, and keep the ball. Green Bay hadn't really stopped DeMarco all day so we were GOING to score a TD.. The only question was how much time we were gonna leave. My preference would have been none. But that was Romo.. he couldn't help himself in that moment.. Once a gunslinger right.. All that said.. no one will ever convince me that he would not have been the better man to pilot the 2016 team in the playoffs. Not that Dak wasn't great, because he was, but I think the veteran would always be the way to go in the playoffs. Maybe with Romo they never dig the big hole.. or maybe they do dig the hole but when they come back they leave Rodgers no time, having learned from 2014 how great that dude is late in games. Maybe Romo doesn't get caught up in the excitement after Zeke's big run and doesn't throw the silly interception on first down right after. I think Garrett and Co blew it by not at least starting Romo the last two games to see what if anything he had left. If he played like crap the decision is easy. If he got hurt, the decision is easy.. If he balls out you start him in the playoffs. The only way to screw it up would be to never see if Romo could still play and play at an even higher level than Dak was that year. Which of course is exactly what Garrett did..

You sound like a classic Romo hater to me. The person you need to blame for Romo fumbling the FG kick was Parcells. What idiot had his star QB holding for FG's? That should have been a special teams specialists that had been doing his entire career.

 

[gjkoeppen]

No former Dallas Cowboys QB would say anything different just out of loyalty to the team.
I wouldn't read too much into it.
It's what they would say off the record that matters.

Obviously you don't know much about Aikman. He's been criticized in the past for being unduly hard on the Cowboys and his response has always been that he does not want to be perceived as a homer. He also said if he says something good about a Cowboys player, he means it.
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[RonnieT24]

You sound like a classic Romo hater to me. The person you need to blame for Romo fumbling the FG kick was Parcells. What idiot had his star QB holding for FG's? That should have been a special teams specialists that had been doing his entire career.

You get sound on this thing? I want that feature too!!!! Saying it was Parcells' fault Romo dropped a snap is like saying it's McCarthy's fault when Zeke fumbles because he should know when his head is not into the game. Parcells made Romo the holder a) because he was good at it and b) because he liked using it to keep Romo engaged. Maybe he knew something about Romo's focus or lack thereof when he had no chance of playing but after making him the backup he knew he was one hit away from it. It also made the fake FG a much more viable option when you have an actual QB holding. Parcells didn't relieve Romo of that duty because changing that operation in mid-season is wrought with peril. You just don't do it unless you have to. Romo dropped the damn ball.. Not Parcells.. not the longsnapper.. Romo.. He would tell you that himself.. I was done with Romo after the boneheaded INT which ended our 2012 season. But he won me back over with that super gutsy performance against those same Commanders in game 15 of 2013. Like I've said before.. the look I saw in his eyes as he led that final drive to win that game showed me what I needed to see from him.. Resolve.. toughness.. winning.. I saw it again nearly all of 2014.. and again to start the 2015 season before he got hurt.. But that was the last we saw of peak Romo. When he came back from the injury that year he was not the same guy.. probably because he wasn't fully healthy. I think he would have done great things with the 2016 team.. and I am still mad that we didn't put him back in for that playoff run. But to your original point.. I don't hate anybody.. not Romo, not Jason Garrett not even my ex-wife.. though believe me I've tried.. It's not in me to hate. Romo was a borderline great QB and a good Cowboy. There is no reason for me to hate him. It's not anybody's fault that he dropped the snap but his own nor is it anybody's fault that he became so fragile at the end that a routine hit in the back essentially ended his season. That was Father Time, who you may have heard is undefeated. He got Romo just like he has gotten every other athlete before and will get every one to come.

 

[CowboyFrog]

You get sound on this thing? I want that feature too!!!! Saying it was Parcells' fault Romo dropped a snap is like saying it's McCarthy's fault when Zeke fumbles because he should know when his head is not into the game. Parcells made Romo the holder a) because he was good at it and b) because he liked using it to keep Romo engaged. Maybe he knew something about Romo's focus or lack thereof when he had no chance of playing but after making him the backup he knew he was one hit away from it. It also made the fake FG a much more viable option when you have an actual QB holding. Parcells didn't relieve Romo of that duty because changing that operation in mid-season is wrought with peril. You just don't do it unless you have to. Romo dropped the damn ball.. Not Parcells.. not the longsnapper.. Romo.. He would tell you that himself.. I was done with Romo after the boneheaded INT which ended our 2012 season. But he won me back over with that super gutsy performance against those same Commanders in game 15 of 2013. Like I've said before.. the look I saw in his eyes as he led that final drive to win that game showed me what I needed to see from him.. Resolve.. toughness.. winning.. I saw it again nearly all of 2014.. and again to start the 2015 season before he got hurt.. But that was the last we saw of peak Romo. When he came back from the injury that year he was not the same guy.. probably because he wasn't fully healthy. I think he would have done great things with the 2016 team.. and I am still mad that we didn't put him back in for that playoff run. But to your original point.. I don't hate anybody.. not Romo, not Jason Garrett not even my ex-wife.. though believe me I've tried.. It's not in me to hate. Romo was a borderline great QB and a good Cowboy. There is no reason for me to hate him. It's not anybody's fault that he dropped the snap but his own nor is it anybody's fault that he became so fragile at the end that a routine hit in the back essentially ended his season. That was Father Time, who you may have heard is undefeated. He got Romo just like he has gotten every other athlete before and will get every one to come.

Father Time is undefeated....All Tom is doing is prolonging the OT, he will get ole Brady too.

 

[JJHLH1]

Of course Roger and Troy are correct.

Dak is an elite level player as demonstrated this season by shattering the all-time NFL passing records thru the first 5 games.

It’s hard to believe that some on this forum still fail to recognize how good Dak is, even though our #1 ranked offense has cratered since Dak’s injury and all the other Cowboys QB’s are looking for their first win.

 

[OmerV]

Obviously you don't know much about Aikman. He's been criticized in the past for being unduly hard on the Cowboys and his response has always been that he does not want to be perceived as a homer. He also said if he says something good about a Cowboys player, he means it.
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Plus that he has expressed criticisms of Dak in the past, so he hasn't been one sided.

 

[cern]

i think's troy's dislike for jerry stems from the fact jimmy is not in the roh. that i agree with. however, troy does diss the cowboy owner too much. and he uses his platform as an announcer to do so. the networks should talk to him about that.

 

[khiladi]

Romo kinda screwed himself with the whole concession speech nonsense. Frankly it was a loser move IMHO. A competitor should want to fight for his position. If he felt he was the better player he should have said "I'll be ready whenever the coaches call on me.." Not, "Dak's playing well I'm gonna fade into the background now." Basically it says the same thing but conveys a completely different message. In Romo's last full season he was playing at a level that Dak only just now got to this year. He was probably still better than Dak in 2016 and should have been given the opportunity to show it.

No, they actually refused to let him compete for the job back. This was well-documented back then, meaning this organization screwed him over because of short-term success in a simplified offense that was exposed the very next year especially, when defenses started doubling Beasley and Linehan was stuck with this mediocre QB. When Romo finally had a team and an offense built on HIS DESIGN with Linehan and Garrett out the picture, an all pro-line and Zeke, they went with this scrub. After all the beatings he took under a Garrett led offense, whose play calling is on full display in NY, they benched him for this mediocrity at QB.

In essence, they did him dirty. And after that, everybody else was thrown under the bus to cater for the QB ON THE CHEAP failed Dak experiment that took 1 week to throw a TD in training camp in year 3 as a starter. And now our OL is in complete disarray and Zeke's career has been wasted to cater to this mediocre stat padder, who gains all his yardage off play-action anyways.

And probably the same people defending this benching of Romo under 'injury' and 'we cared for his health' are the same people thinking LVE should be playing as LB with a fused vertebrae.

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1157655

 

[gjkoeppen]

You sound like a classic Romo hater to me. The person you need to blame for Romo fumbling the FG kick was Parcells. What idiot had his star QB holding for FG's? That should have been a special teams specialists that had been doing his entire career.

There was a time when just about every team's holder for field goals and extra points was their starting QB. It was that way from the 30's until around 1979. The a starting QB got injured on a field goal and missed a couple of games. After that teams started using their backup QB as the holder and that lasted until a backup QB got injured and as it turned out the following week the starting QB got banged up later in the 4th quarter. So then by the 1990's the started having the punters doing the holding.

Parcells tried several players as holder in training camp and the kicker, Nick Folk, told Parcells he preferred Romo so Romo did the holding. It's also been noted that because of not just that muffed snap but because it happened on 8 other times during the season because the league had switched to special kicking balls that the time allotted to scuff up those balls was only 5 minutes and only 1 or 2 got scuffed and the rest were slick like every other new ball. Add in the rainy day and a wet slick ball, and the muff happened. After that season the league gave kicking balls the same time limit as the regular balls for scuffing. Parcells wasn't to blame for that anymore than blaming him for Witten not getting 10 more inches on the play before.\
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[CowboyFrog]

No, they actually refused to let him compete for the job back. This was well-documented back then, meaning this organization screwed him over because of short-term success in a simplified offense that was exposed the very next year especially, when defenses started doubling Beasley and Linehan was stuck with this mediocre QB. When Romo finally had a team and an offense built on HIS DESIGN with Linehan and Garrett out the picture, an all pro-line and Zeke, they went with this scrub. After all the beatings he took under a Garrett led offense, whose play calling is on full display in NY, they benched him for this mediocrity at QB.

In essence, they did him dirty. And after that, everybody else was thrown under the bus to cater for the QB ON THE CHEAP failed Dak experiment that took 1 week to throw a TD in training camp in year 3 as a starter. And now our OL is in complete disarray and Zeke's career has been wasted to cater to this mediocre stat padder, who gains all his yardage off play-action anyways.

And probably the same people defending this benching of Romo under 'injury' and 'we cared for his health' are the same people thinking LVE should be playing as LB with a fused vertebrae.

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1157655

Did the undrafted FCS QB dirty did they?

 

[cern]

No, they actually refused to let him compete for the job back. This was well-documented back then, meaning this organization screwed him over because of short-term success in a simplified offense that was exposed the very next year especially, when defenses started doubling Beasley and Linehan was stuck with this mediocre QB. When Romo finally had a team and an offense built on HIS DESIGN with Linehan and Garrett out the picture, an all pro-line and Zeke, they went with this scrub. After all the beatings he took under a Garrett led offense, whose play calling is on full display in NY, they benched him for this mediocrity at QB.

In essence, they did him dirty. And after that, everybody else was thrown under the bus to cater for the QB ON THE CHEAP failed Dak experiment that took 1 week to throw a TD in training camp in year 3 as a starter. And now our OL is in complete disarray and Zeke's career has been wasted to cater to this mediocre stat padder, who gains all his yardage off play-action anyways.

And probably the same people defending this benching of Romo under 'injury' and 'we cared for his health' are the same people thinking LVE should be playing as LB with a fused vertebrae.

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1157655

the decision to stick with dak was not made without asking many of the starters their thoughts on the issue. overwhelmingly, they chose to stay with the hot hand. romo wasn't the future. he was the past. and he had become one hit and out the last two years.

 

[khiladi]

the decision to stick with dak was not made without asking many of the starters their thoughts on the issue. overwhelmingly, they chose to stay with the hot hand. romo wasn't the future. he was the past. and he had become one hit and out the last two years.

Yeah, they asked a bunch of young guys who were 'cool with Dak' and 'hip to his partying', blinded by the temporary success of the record and the team suffered for it. The last thing they should have done is asked the 'team' which more than played out the last few years.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Yeah, they asked a bunch of young guys who were 'cool with Dak' and 'hip to his partying', blinded by the temporary success of the record and the team suffered for it. The last thing they should have done is asked the 'team' which more than played out the last few years.

If he was healthy, why did he retire instead of going to another team? are you telling me no other team wanted a healthy Romo as there QB... by the way this isn't exagerated nonsense not meant to be taken literally...I would literally like to know.....