Staubach: There’s accuracy issues but Dak’s gonna continue to be a great quarterback **merged**

DuncanIso

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The OL wasn’t anywhere close to elite this past season. They were average at best, due to injuries.

Dak also didn’t have the elite WR until halfway through the season. His numbers since getting the elite WR? Top 10 in the NFL with a 7-2 W/L record and a playoff win.

Let’s be honest about the facts.

Ask Zeke about the OL.

He’s the 2018 rushing champ.
 

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Ask Zeke about the OL.

He’s the 2018 rushing champ.

Obviously you have no desire to be honest about the situation.

Yes Zeke was the rushing champ. Because 1. Zeke is a great RB. And 2. Run blocking is different than pass blocking.

If you watched the OL actually play this season you would know the pass blocking was nowhere close to elite. So just stop with the BS already. Be honest.

You want to say Dak sucked the first half of the season that’s fine. He did.

Once he had an elite WR he played above average.

Both of those things are facts.
 

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LT and RG.

Elite.

Fred will be back soon.

LT dinged up most of the year.
RG messed up his knee.
C missed the entire season.
Two blanks.

Maybe we are talking about something different here. Our O-Line hasn’t been stable the past two seasons.
 

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Would be great if Staubach would bring up how much easier it is now for QBs in this league opposed to nearly 20 years ago when Brady first got his start. Even Brady mentioned how much easier it is to dissect defenses now.

Mahomes wouldn't be throwing for 50 TDs in 2000. The majority of QBs in the league wouldn't have had 65% completion rating 20 years ago (which was near that average this year)

Dak not topping over 24 TD passes in this era really isn't all that impressive - and it's not like Zeke is scoring a ton either.

Dak's important stats are good compared to QBs that played in 2018 and the previous few years.

TDs stats don't correlate to much.

The goal is to win games and ultimately Super Bowls.

Aikman had 165 career TD passes in 165 starts and won 3 Super Bowls.

Dan Mario had 420 TD passes in 240 starts which on a per start basis is almost double Aikman's TD numbers. Mario won Zero Super Bowls.

2018 passing TDs:
Brady 29
Mahomes 50

Which one is playing in the Super Bowl?
 

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your thread got merged

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Do you think they would have made the same decision based on 2017 performance?
Based on the first 6-7 games of 2017, I believe so.
Because it aligns with his narrative. If Roger had come out with a more negative statement like Troy has before then he wouldn’t embrace it.

AC was one of the leading Romo bashers and has taken a lead role hopping on Daks wagon because whoever takes us further than Romo did will in his mind prove he was right about Romo.
I was right about Romo after he pulled that Cabo crap during the 2007 playoffs! I told you guys then Romo showed he simply didn't get IT, especially with his inexcusably lame response about not worrying about "perception". Even Troy came out and bashed him for it. That should have shown you Romosexuals how much of a mental midget Romo truly was and was going to be. The guy went Hollywood. He craved the limelight much more than he did wanting to reach a Super Bowl, and the results proved that. I told you back then after that 2007 fiasco that he didn't have what it takes to ever take the Cowboys to a Super Bowl, no matter how talented of a passer he was, and time proved that to be true. For that, you hate me because you simply didn't see the signs? lol. Remember, I told you so. The signs were there. You refused to see or accept them. Not my problem you were wrong.
 

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Translation: Dak has accuracy issues. But if we build a super team around him, the team will overcome his accuracy issues.
Way to dress a pig, Roger. :clap:

Maybe the super bowl winning QB knows that it takes a team to win a super bowl. Maybe the hall of fame QB knows that its foolish that some fans believe there are QB’s who “carry” teams all by themselves, to anything significant.
 

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There's accuracy issues, but you'll see those probably with

There's accuracy issues (a factual opinion)

. . . but you'll see those probably with (is a nonsensical statement that actually discredits any statement he makes about Brady it opens it up toconjecture and in no way could be considered a "factual opinion")

The placement of "probably" makes the statement true or not true or wrong or not wrong. It doesn't compare what Brady has or has not done in the past.

It implies that the inaccuries of Dak are in fact a quality Brady "probably" also possessed. Without committing to the fact if Brady did or did not possess the inability to be accurate only " probably".
 

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Maybe the super bowl winning QB knows that it takes a team to win a super bowl. Maybe the hall of fame QB knows that its foolish that some fans believe there are QB’s who “carry” teams all by themselves, to anything significant.
No quarterback carries a team "all by himself." But there are quarterbacks who have more than enough ability to be that X factor who lifts a team.
Dak with his indecision and inaccuracy isn't one of those quarterbacks. And when that occurs, you need a complete team, a super team.
A super team makes a Trent Dilfer Super Bowl winning quarterback. A great quarterback makes a John Elway a Super Bowl participating team. A great team makes a greater John Elway a Super Bowl winning team.
Dak is more on the Dilfer side than the Elway side. That's why he needs a super team. Rogers was being honest. Dak is inaccurate. Dak needs to improve on his accuracy. If Dak remains Dak, he's going to need a super team.
 

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Sigh. 2016. The season when historical football perspective took a backseat to mass euphoria. Prior to that season, 180 NFL, AFL, NFC and AFC quarterbacks reached NFL, AFL, and Super Bowl championship games. 90 winning quarterbacks. 90 losing quarterbacks.

Anyone know the number of winning and runner-up rookie quarterbacks in NFL playoff history at that time?

Zero.

A Super Bowl opportunity is the highest and most difficult achievement in professional football (sorry Grey Cup lovers). Owners, coaches and players dream about playing for an NFL championship. Owners, coaches and players who have played in a Super Bowl dream of playing in more Super Bowls. Much is sacrificed by those lucky few who reach the rare pinnacle of football.

So.

Based on NFL history.

The odds of rookie quarterback-led teams, both reaching and/or achieving the sport's ultimate victory, are those akin to a gambler wagering his life savings on the Alabama Crimsom Tide winning the Super Bowl. Essentially, that season, decision-makers like Jerry Jones and Jason Garrett, along with a significant number of onlookers--some of whom I will always respect their opinions--adopted this mindset:

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Fascinating.



Knock knock.

Who's there?

It's 2019.

It's 2019 who?

It's 2019 and no rookie quarterback has still never competed for or won a championship in NFL playoff history.
This is pathetic. Dak carried the team and brought them back from being down 18 points halfway through the 2nd quarter to tie the game at 31 all with 39 seconds to play in regulation against an Aaron Rodgers led Packers playoff team. To incessantly throw out the "well it's never been done so it can never happen with a rookie QB" mantra simply to ease your pain of watching Romo sit on the bench is pathetic, especially considering Dak as a rookie threw for over 300 yards and 3 TDs in his very first playoff game against a SB Championship proven team... Numbers Romo never reached in any of the 6 playoff games he played in throughout his 10 seasons as a starter.

The Cowboys didn't lose that 2016 division playoff game versus the Packers because of Dak. They lost it because the Defense never showed up and the officials as usual helped out the Packers. To assume Romo could have performed stat-wise better and accomplished game numbers he never once did before, especially at that stage of his career being old, so fragile and easily injured, is unbelievable.
 
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