Twitter: Stephen Jones admits they would have reached for a cornerback had Horn or Surtain been there

[TheDude]

This was the dumbest encounter I have ever had on this site.

And that is baselined against 30ydSlant, Bob Sacamano and 4-5 other gems whom dont deserve the callout for the comparative

 

[TheDude]

And in case the noob didnt mute me. That HOF Peyton Manning best year ever in 2013, 55 TDs etc got taken to the woodshed 43-8 by Seattle. HIs last year in Denver, the HOF QB played 10 games had 9 TD against 17 INTs, got benched, but won a SB 24-10 over Carolina.

defense may matter 1 out of every 5 SB guys Reid1boys has it figured

 

[AsthmaField]

This was the dumbest encounter I have ever had on this site.

And that is baselined against 30ydSlant, Bob Sacamano and 4-5 other gems whom dont deserve the callout for the comparative

Lol @ 30 yard slant

 

[TheDude]

Lol @ 30 yard slant

His legendary meltdown during that Bears game thread after Romos 5th int was more coherant than that take

 

[gimmesix]

Sure. But you’re not supposed to draft lesser players for need. At least ideally you’re not supposed to.

I think we get more caught up in the lesser thing more than the teams do. Teams like Dallas use tiered rankings, so although one player may be higher-rated, he might not be in a separate tier. This allows the team to take a player at a position of need if he's in the same tier as a higher-rated player because there's just not that much that separates them.

Draft evaluation is far from a perfect process, so teams aren't going to be married to being able to absolutely distinguish between the top-rated defender and the second-rated one, unless there's a clear difference. Too much is being made of this IMO.

 

[kumizi]

I love to clown on the Jones family but #1 Corner is a way more important/impactful position than a 4-3 type (non edge rushing) LB.

 

[BrassCowboy]

Ain't buying it. They manipulated the draft to go exactly how they wanted it to go. They drummed up excitement for Surtain and horn for so long so that Parsons, whom they had as #1 defender on their board, would fall enough for them to be able to get him.

We got exactly who we should of.

 

[CATCH17]

Ain't buying it. They manipulated the draft to go exactly how they wanted it to go. They drummed up excitement for Surtain and horn for so long so that Parsons, whom they had as #1 defender on their board, would fall enough for them to be able to get him.

We got exactly who we should of.

You really think that?

 

[Risen Star]

i honestly don’t get the attitudes towards LB amongst some folks.

I am trying to think back to some of the best defenses in the past couple of decades. They almost all have had a stud LB or two that were a key player for the defense.

Ravens: Ray Lewis
Seattle: Bobby Wagner
Panthers: Keuchly
Bears: Urlacher
Bucs: years with Derrick Brooks. Most recently Devin White
49ers: Patrick Willis
Patriots: Hightower most recently but previously guys like Vrabel, Mcginest, Bruschi

I mean. I just don’t get where the idea came from that LB’s aren’t impact players for a defense. There is a long long list of great LB’s who have been absolute difference makers for a defense. Even in the modern NFL

Well you're just not infected. That's why you don't understand.

Anyone who has a direct impact on the line of scrimmage is an infinitely more important player than a cornerback.

 

[Risen Star]

This quote may be one of the most idiotic I have heard Stephen utter.

Give him time. He'll top it.

A chip off the old block.

 

[Risen Star]

Whatever way you want to massage what you said.

Surtain was taken 1 pick before us. We traded back afterwards.

Whatever agenda you got.

I'm not massaging what he said. I'm literally quoting him. They had Parsons the highest rated defensive player on their board but they would have taken a lower rated player on their board if they were there.

That's reaching.

 

[BrassCowboy]

You really think that?

Hiding in plain sight

 

[Proof]

Yep. We thought Parsons was the best but oh yeah we would have taken one of those cornerbacks. I mean, naturally.

This is the vaccine we should really be worried about.

i mean we’re talking degrees of separation, and CB was the much more pressing need. not to mention both cbs were drafted before micah and by teams that easily could’ve gotten a haul for their spot.

 

[Proof]

It’s obvious why they’d admit now. In case Parsons doesn’t bloom and or either CB’s do.

What a dysfunctional ownership. Lol

this is one of the weirdest takes i’ve read lol. by all accounts micah is as advertised and requires no hedging of bets. not to mention that saving face is nowhere near necessary at this stage. just sounds like some honesty and candor

 

[Diehardblues]

this is one of the weirdest takes i’ve read lol. by all accounts micah is as advertised and requires no hedging of bets. not to mention that saving face is nowhere near necessary at this stage. just sounds like some honesty and candor

But why now come out with it? What purpose does it serve?

They weren’t honest initially.

 

[Big_D]

\I saw 8-8 last year and a defense that had holes like a cheese grater. When I see a difference on the FIELD then Ill actually say there is a defensive improvement. Every year we hear how great they look in CAMP. Thats like saying I look amazing on a speed back.. then when I get in ring I learn the other guy hits back.

Who said you dont evaluate and have a plan to build a team? Try not to put words in my mouth. If you want to quote me, fine, otherwise stop making stupid comments and attributing them to me.

And Randy isnt a head case, he was working on his mental health just Like Osaka and Biles... hes a real champion and pillar of strength like those two American Heroes.

You still have to draft smart. No trade ups, no injuries, no head cases or the bare minimum in that department since they are unavoidable at times, no backup TEs or special teamers. The list goes on.. this team took ridiculous gambles early and often through the Garrett era.. Sure they found some good players, but it was offset by the foolishness of the rest of it. Everyone says build through the draft because this is where it starts. And yes these players have to show it, but at least they're being smart about it. And I'm sure they aren't done if it don't work out. They could stop drafting DTs right now for the next decade and still be ahead of what Garrett and Marinelli did. It was a sham. I don't see how I'm putting words in your mouth when you don't see the difference? You came right to Garrett's defense. Refusing to see the clown show here. Specially on the defensive side of the ball.

 

[tyke1doe]

Well you're just not infected. That's why you don't understand.

Anyone who has a direct impact on the line of scrimmage is an infinitely more important player than a cornerback.

Unless that corner is Deion Sanders.

 

[Proof]

But why now come out with it? What purpose does it serve?

They weren’t honest initially.

now this i can’t answer other than stephen is a buffoon

 

[atlantacowboy]

News travels slow in your part of the world OP.....

Were you here during the draft? Anyone who suggested the Cowboys plan A and B wasn't Parsons got crucified on here. Turns out we were right.

 

[kskboys]

I love to clown on the Jones family but #1 Corner is a way more important/impactful position than a 4-3 type (non edge rushing) LB.

It's the opposite.

A game changer such as Parsons on D is much more valuable than any corner.