CowboyRoy
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You hopeTranslate: If he's there we're taking him
You hopeTranslate: If he's there we're taking him
I think there are some posters who feel like they are cap magicians and, from their sofa, can run an NFL team.Right, let’s just move on from one of our best players because you don’t want to pay them. If it was up to some of you none of our best players would get an extension.
There’s some fans that want to move on from every young player as soon as they become a real good player and are going to command a big contract. I’ve already seen several posts with fans wanting to unload Parsons before he commands a big deal. You have fans bellyaching all the time about the Cowboys not being able to win a Super Bowl but they don’t want to pay the teams best players. They wouldn’t rather have cheaper downgrades. It’s crazy some of the stuff you read here.I think there are some posters who feel like they are cap magicians and, from their sofa, can run an NFL team.
It’s like they think you can have an entire roster of players on a rookie deal and when it’s up, we just let them go and “draft another one”.
When we pay CD, Parsons, QB, LT and DE at their market value we will wish we hadn’t paid this over rated CBHe’s actually a very good player and a playmaker. Fans are a down on him after last season, because his INTs dropped way off and he doesn’t tackle but he’s one of our cornerstone players. You can’t just move on from every real good player because of a flaw or two. If it was up to fans on this board we would move on from Dak and we would have moved on from Zeke at least a couple of years ago. We’re already starting to see threads with fans wanting to know what Parsons trade value would be because some don’t want to pay him. There’s fans that don’t want to pay CeeDee.
The Cowboys have been 12-5 the past two seasons, and have made the playoffs both seasons. To stay competitive and have a chance to reach the level we want to reach we have to hang onto our best players. If we move on from them we have to try and replace them in free agency, or with a draft pick when we could be addressing another need. Some of you look for every reason not to pay a real good player and go with someone cheaper. That’s not the recipe for winning a championship.
I don’t “assume” there will be a CB there. Just look at those available this year. There are a lot of starting caliber CBs available in the draft who would be on a rookie deal for years.Corner is a position where Dallas hasn't found a ball hawk like Diggs in years. You propose we just trade him away, create an area of need and assume a corner will be there at 26......
And what in recent history tells you they would put significant money into the DT position?
You want to trade our only top level wide receiver for a first round pick, when we took him at #17 just three years ago.- Bijan Robinson? "You never know."........ yes we do, he wont be there at 26.
pick 26 will be whoever is blinking !
- They don't have a couple of the QBs rated nearly as highly as most do........of course not lol jones boys want their qb from the 5th down.
- Lamb and Diggs extensions will be more of a priority after the draft.... either one or both could be a mistake, they should try and trade lamb
just to see if anyone offers a 1st, heck put both on trading block just to see what their value is, and that could help in getting a cheaper extension.
He’s had 15 INTs the past two seasons. We finally landed a real playmaker at the position, but you want to move on from him because he doesn’t tackle and is going to cost a lot of money. If we don’t re-sign him, it will leave a hole at that position and we’ll likely end up with a downgrade, because good young corners don’t come cheap. It’s not like Gilmore is going to be here a long time, he’s aging. He may only be here a couple of seasons and if you move on from Diggs then what are you going to do at corner? The Cowboys are finally building a real good secondary but fans like you, would rather have lesser, cheaper players.When we pay CD, Parsons, QB, LT and DE at their market value we will wish we hadn’t paid this over rated CB
Til Jason Witten, the best right end the team has ever had, was a scrub.I love you so much lol thank you thank you!!! Get the kind of TE we play against that give us problems!! Enough with the wittens , get a guy that will create mismatches down the field giving us another weapon
It’s the same mentality that posters have when it comes to QB.Corner is a position where Dallas hasn't found a ball hawk like Diggs in years. You propose we just trade him away, create an area of need and assume a corner will be there at 26......
And what in recent history tells you they would put significant money into the DT position?
Because great and consistent defense is built by great front 7 and safety play not by overpaying for good CBsHe’s had 15 INTs the past two seasons. We finally landed a real playmaker at the position, but you want to move on from him because he doesn’t tackle and is going to cost a lot of money. If we don’t re-sign him, it will leave a hole at that position and we’ll likely end up with a downgrade, because good young corners don’t come cheap. It’s not like Gilmore is going to be here a long time, he’s aging. He may only be here a couple of seasons and if you move on from Diggs then what are you going to do at corner? The Cowboys are finally building a real good secondary but fans like you, would rather have lesser, cheaper players.
You obviously haven’t been following football long with that reply. Lol Great defense may start upfront but you have to have outstanding coverage/corner play with all the passing today. You need playmakers in the secondary who can take the ball away. If you look at all the championship teams the Cowboys have had they had great corners. They had a corner win Super Bowl MVP in their last Super Bowl win. Diggs is still a young developing player who hasn’t reached his full potential. He makes mistakes just like a lot of players on the team but he’s still one of our best players and a cornerstone. What’s your plan if you don’t want to re-sign him? Do you think Stephon Gilmore is going to be here long at age 33? With you running the team the Cowboys won’t have any corners worth a damn in a couple of years. LolBecause great and consistent defense is built by great front 7 and safety play not by overpaying for good CBs
The niners scored one TD in that game and your “playmaker” whiffed on 2 critical plays on that drive in not tackling the TE and dropping a pick that hit him in the hands LOL. A playmaker that whiffs on plays at the most critical times
LOL giving an example from almost 3 decades ago. Thank you for making my pointYou obviously haven’t been following football long with that reply. Lol Great defense may start upfront but you have to have outstanding coverage/corner play with all the passing today. You need playmakers in the secondary who can take the ball away. If you look at all the championship teams the Cowboys have had they had great corners. They had a corner win Super Bowl MVP in their last Super Bowl win. Diggs is still a young developing player who hasn’t reached his full potential. He makes mistakes just like a lot of players on the team but he’s still one of our best players and a cornerstone. What’s your plan if you don’t want to re-sign him? Do you think Stephon Gilmore is going to be here long at age 33? With you running the team the Cowboys won’t have any corners worth a damn in a couple of years. Lol
If anyone needs to get with the times it’s you. Lol If you don’t think corner play is just as important today as ever you’re really behind the times. All the rules have been bent to favor the passing game to create more scoring, making it more difficult to play corner. Just look at the size of receivers these days. Answer the question, if you move on from Diggs what’s your plan at corner? We’ll see if we end up better off with your bright idea. LolLOL giving an example from almost 3 decades ago. Thank you for making my point
Get with the times old man
well they dont have to trade him just act like he is available and see if another team values him as much as you do lol.You want to trade our only top level wide receiver for a first round pick, when we took him at #17 just three years ago.
The guy who has made the pro bowl twice and was 2nd team all-pro just last year.
The guy who would be a top 8 pick in a redraft of his class.
That’s just crazy talk.
If anyone needs to get with the times it’s you. Lol If you don’t think corner play is just as important today as ever you’re really behind the times. All the rules have been bent to favor the passing game to create more scoring, making it more difficult to play corner. Just look at the size of receivers these days. Answer the question, if you move on from Diggs what’s your plan at corner? We’ll see if we end up better off with your bright idea. Lol
This is Booger you know better than to think hell use common sense. hes all about the Diggs jerseys. I like Trevon but hes feast or famine. hes an above average cover guy who going to break the bank. Its how it is in jerrys world and precisely why well be on the outside looking inI’ve been saying from beginning of off season, trade Diggs for a rd 1 pick. Take CB with that pick. There are at least 4-5 CBs worthy of a late rd 1 pick in this draft. You then have a CB on their rookie deal and you saved the 22 million/y you were going to pay Diggs. With that my plan was to sign Hargrave and Robinson. Now you have replaced Diggs with rd 1 CB+Hargrave+ Robinson
Defense relies on consistency, attitude, discipline, front 7 and safety play. CBs are shiny toys that fools line up to overpay.
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That is how a real GM builds a real consistent defense not by blindly paying an above average CB elite money
I’m sure that two of the stars on on the roster will be thrilled with this plan.well they dont have to trade him just act like he is available and see if another team values him as much as you do lol.
Then you can take the offer and have 2 # 1 picks, + maybe a lower pick, or you can keep him and know his true value.
If no team offers a 1, then that would help negotiate a lower future contract with him. same for diggs.
You’re claiming Diggs is overrated and are acting like he’s not that good a player but you think he’s worth a first round pick? You’re not making any sense. Your plan is ridiculous! First of all, you’re devaluing corners, acting like you don’t need them in today’s game. You want to trade away a proven player who we got in the second round who hasn’t even reached his full potential for a roll of the dice in the draft. There’s no guarantee the player you draft is going to end up developing into a good player and how do you even know there’s going to be a corner worth taking with that first round pick? Even though you’re the devaluing corners, you still want to use a first round pick on one. Lol Once again, you’re not making any sense! The smart move is to re-sign Diggs who’s a proven player and use our round pick on an another position. It would be absolutely stupid to trade away a young, talented corner and use the pick on another corner who may not end up as good.I’ve been saying from beginning of off season, trade Diggs for a rd 1 pick. Take CB with that pick. There are at least 4-5 CBs worthy of a late rd 1 pick in this draft. You then have a CB on their rookie deal and you saved the 22 million/y you were going to pay Diggs. With that my plan was to sign Hargrave and Robinson. Now you have replaced Diggs with rd 1 CB+Hargrave+ Robinson
Defense relies on consistency, attitude, discipline, front 7 and safety play. CBs are shiny toys that fools line up to overpay.
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That is how a real GM builds a real consistent defense not by blindly paying an above average CB elite money
So, this assumes that the magic cornerback we select can immediately step in and perform at a pro bowl level?I’ve been saying from beginning of off season, trade Diggs for a rd 1 pick. Take CB with that pick. There are at least 4-5 CBs worthy of a late rd 1 pick in this draft. You then have a CB on their rookie deal and you saved the 22 million/y you were going to pay Diggs. With that my plan was to sign Hargrave and Robinson. Now you have replaced Diggs with rd 1 CB+Hargrave+ Robinson
Defense relies on consistency, attitude, discipline, front 7 and safety play. CBs are shiny toys that fools line up to overpay.
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That is how a real GM builds a real consistent defense not by blindly paying an above average CB elite money
I don’t get that indication from anyone associated with the team, but it’s possible it may go that way. Hopefully the new OL coach gets to make his own determination.Dallas redid Tyron's contract for him to be the RT if Steele isn't ready or the LT if Steele is ready.
We'll see at training camp if Steele is ready. All signs point to him being ready.
As long as Tyron Smith is healthy he will be the LT. This was the plan when Tyler Smith got drafted.
If both Steele and Smith are healthy the draftee will be a backup.