Stephen Jones says the 1 priority in the offseason is to find a backup Qb

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QB is the most important position on the field. There is no way you pass up good QB's every year and certainly not now. And the answer is "maybe", not "yes". Or more like "not likely".

But you seem to agree with Jones thinking so I dont see anything changing there. For me, I draft as many good QB's as I can and let the chips fall where they may. If that is at the expense of the LB position or WR position ect...ect... then so be it. Finding and maintaining stellar QB play is the best way to stay competitive year and year out and the best way to build a championship caliber team. I could care less if the next Aaron Rogers sits on the bench for 2 or 3 years. If he is so great, then trade Romo or trade him.

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Here is a snippet I found when he was asked if he would use a first round pick in the upcoming draft on a young QB:

"Well, I don’t know about first round, necessarily – at all," he said. "But again, I go back to Weeden. Weeden was an opportunity to develop the future. Again, he hadn’t played much football and he had some age on him because he played baseball – but still it was an opportunity for us to develop for the future. It did not work. There’s your first-round pick. Half of the first-round picks that are made don’t work."

now combine it with this snippet and you basically get the full picture that he isnt doing it. And then throw in his love for Weeden and you just have to shake your head. This clown really thinks Romo is going to be good for another 4 or 5 years?

"This is not a damn debate, guys," Jones said. "This is not a debate we're having here. Do you know that I don't know if he's got four or five years? You asked me my opinion and I can give you all the reasons why: the back, or I can give you clavicle, or I can give you any other type of injuries that are there.

"But you're asking me what I think, and I think we've got outstanding quarterbacking ahead of us for the next four or five years."

The old man is still in denial and still thinks (applying these above quotes to the situation back in early 2000's) Aikman had a coulple of SBs left in him even with the concussion and back problems the rest of the league could see. From JJ's inner thought process is true he still clings to the belief that he was robbed in regards to Aikman's capability; IF HE ONLY HAD SOME LUCK WITH INJURY. You don't throw away a QB JJ, but damn there is a middle line to prepare yourself for this second round of heartbreak and he still can't face the music. :oops::(
 

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Are the Cowboys good enough to win big next year with Romo? Yes, so you go get someone that can contribute now.

You state this as a forgone conclusion when any impartial observer can see that the issues run much further than Romo. Even Jerry Jones, the eternal optimist, has said so.

While you're grooming your next drafted QB, half your team will retire, leave in free agency, get hurt, or decline. That's why you strike while the iron is hot.

"Half"? Please tell me which "half" of this team will retire while you're grooming a quarterback. And let me know how long you think this grooming will take?

Stay young, but win now, especially if you're lucky enough to have a Romo. I'd rather go out and trade for a Mettenberger than draft some coin flip from Memphis.

And Mettenberger is some proven commodity?

Treadwell from Ole Miss. Ragland from Alabama. Somebody immediately awesome.

This season clearly illustrated that a quality quarterback behind Romo must be added, both for now and for the future. That can be one guy, or it can be two guys, but it clearly needs to happen.
 

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According to Mickey Spagnola who interviewed Stephen Jones today, The backup Qb position will be the teams #1 priority in the offseason.

Don't be shocked if the Cowboys start dangling draft picks to get a backup qb they really want.
I have a feeling Johnny Football will be a Cowboy for like a 3rd or 4 th rd pick or something. If Stephen says it's the #1 priority I don't think they will be taking a chance that someone gets released, That sounds like they will be making some phone calls and being very proactive in getting a quality backup.

Thoughts?

Sadly. Too late and not soon enough. We have bigger issues believe it or not. There were wins in those 9 losses.

We don't know what the heck we are doing ... In many ways.
 

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According to Mickey Spagnola who interviewed Stephen Jones today, The backup Qb position will be the teams #1 priority in the offseason.

Don't be shocked if the Cowboys start dangling draft picks to get a backup qb they really want.
I have a feeling Johnny Football will be a Cowboy for like a 3rd or 4 th rd pick or something. If Stephen says it's the #1 priority I don't think they will be taking a chance that someone gets released, That sounds like they will be making some phone calls and being very proactive in getting a quality backup.

Thoughts?

How completely clueless are these guys? Complete idiots

Reminds me of the "special teams" draft that we had
 

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FIFY. Hardest to find too.

Absolutely. Which really gives more credence to the theory that you have to search consistently hoping to nail a good one somewhere along the line. You have to be a franchise committed to the development of young QB's.
 

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The old man is still in denial and still thinks (applying these above quotes to the situation back in early 2000's) Aikman had a coulple of SBs left in him even with the concussion and back problems the rest of the league could see. From JJ's inner thought process is true he still clings to the belief that he was robbed in regards to Aikman's capability; IF HE ONLY HAD SOME LUCK WITH INJURY. You don't throw away a QB JJ, but damn there is a middle line to prepare yourself for this second round of heartbreak and he still can't face the music. :oops::(

Its really simple stuff and the brass doesnt get it.

Why wouldnt you want your next young QB to learn from Tony Romo? Be groomed by one of the best for a few years?

Its like they have no clue about any of it?
 

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Romo's clavicle didn't break because it was old; it was because of the specific impact position and amount of force applied.

His back will be more prone to injury, but our OL is supposed to keep the QB clean.

He may play 16 games next year ( I'd rather it be 19). But I'm not taking any bets on that.

Isn't it involved with his spin move to avoid rushers and the prone position he takes while hitting the ground simultaneous with the big defenders landing on him and the it pressure it adds specifically to that area of his body?

That's Romo though and could be a small adjustment to make? (take the sack; pains me to say that)

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Well those aren't easy questions to answer.

One, I don't think Jones is really the GM anymore. I think Stephen has a lot more influence now. If Jerry Jones were still the GM and made all the decisions, we'd be wondering if we are going to cut Manziel this offseason instead of thanking our lucky stars that we have Zach Martin for the next 8-10 years.

Two, it's hard to argue with their first round picks over the last 4-5 years. 4 out of the last 5 years they hit home runs. They went need with Claiborne and that bit them in the *** but they stuck to their boards in the other years and ended up with 4 pro bowlers. They took heat for the Frederick pick and they proved everyone wrong. So it's hard for me to call this front office awful or bad when they've done fairly well in the draft. 2nd round has been kind of a disaster, I admit, but Lawrence might buck that trend.

Three, I don't particularly like the way they've handled the QB situation but I also know that it's not easy finding a capable backup. I also am not sure that Weeden and Cassel are incapable of winning a game here or there. I think our coaching is a bigger problem than player selection but that's another discussion. In terms of the future, how many teams really do what people here are *****ing about? Everyone keeps talking about the Packers but that was a bizarre situation where a guy that some thought might go Top 3 slipped to 24. I suspect if the Cowboys were picking 24th next draft and Lynch was their #2 prospect and he slipped to them, they'd probably take him too. But what other teams have invested #1 or even a high #2 pick in the heir apparent? NE took Garappolo at the end of the 2nd round a few years ago. Guess that works and frankly, I am hoping that maybe we take a kid like Wentz in the 2nd this year or Hackenberg if he even slips to the 3rd.

Fair enough.
 

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It's really sad. Let's shop for a backup and ignore finding the replacement for Romo. If this is the plan, we are in serious trouble.
 

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Isn't it involved with his spin move to avoid rushers and the prone position he takes while hitting the ground simultaneous with the big defenders landing on him and the it pressure it adds specifically to that area of his body?

That's Romo though and could be a small adjustment to make? (take the sack; pains me to say that)

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Whenever you see someone go down on their shoulder, with their torso perpendicular to the ground, and some monster DL crashing down on that with about 500-1000 pounds of force, then something's gonna give and it's usually the clavicle. It can also be the labrum, which is the cartilaginous cup that the head of the humerus rest in....... Neither injury is humerous.
 

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Absolutely. Which really gives more credence to the theory that you have to search consistently hoping to nail a good one somewhere along the line. You have to be a franchise committed to the development of young QB's.

This FO is just afraid to draft QBs,they have afraid of missing as badly as the last few Qbs they drafted and its why they will bring in terrible QBs for Backups rather than take draft QBs.
 

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You state this as a forgone conclusion when any impartial observer can see that the issues run much further than Romo. Even Jerry Jones, the eternal optimist, has said so.



"Half"? Please tell me which "half" of this team will retire while you're grooming a quarterback. And let me know how long you think this grooming will take?



And Mettenberger is some proven commodity?



This season clearly illustrated that a quality quarterback behind Romo must be added, both for now and for the future. That can be one guy, or it can be two guys, but it clearly needs to happen.

This roster is more complete than the 12-4 roster of a year ago. Need a bellcow RB.

I didn't say half will retire. I hyperbolically said half will retire, leave, get hurt, or decline.

Mettenberger is more proven than that guy you want to risk a 5th pick on.

Add them, just not by wasting a first-round pick. And for the love of God, not a loser like Johnny Manziel. Enough with these wastoids.
 

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It's really sad. Let's shop for a backup and ignore finding the replacement for Romo. If this is the plan, we are in serious trouble.


As its been stated in this thread, I'm sure. I want to do both...........
 

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It's really sad. Let's shop for a backup and ignore finding the replacement for Romo. If this is the plan, we are in serious trouble.

Other than a random person here or there, has many people suggested this?

What most people have said, who are now being made out to be people who don't want to find a replacement for Romo, is that you can't just draft a QB for the sake of drafting a QB now that you will have a Top 6 pick most likely. Drafting for need is always a bad strategy and that if the Cowboys take a QB with that to pick, it had better be because they have that QB ranked as the top player or close to top player on their board at that pick.

There aren't many posters here who would argue with the BPA strategy, if that strategy resulted in the Cowboys taking Lynch or Goff. The problem is that we don't know how the Cowboys look at them or where they will fall on the board and to pound one's fist on the table and say they have to take a QB with their first is more emotional than rational thinking at this point.
 

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When I hear back up QB specifically, I'm not getting a rd 1 pick vibe from Stephen (unfortunately). But who knows, it may be a PR thing to prevent Romo from being asking if the team has moved on from him, etc. until the team does snatch one early 1st round.

They talked Jerry out of a qb last year no wayit happens again. Besides I'll never forget the look on the Jones's face when Tony went down the last time, reality slapped them hard
 

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This roster is more complete than the 12-4 roster of a year ago. Need a bellcow RB.

In what way exactly? If it truly were, the team would not be 4-9 with more losses to come. As I've said, the issues are bigger than Tony Romo and it's optimistic to the point of reckless to believe otherwise

I didn't say half will retire. I hyperbolically said half will retire, leave, get hurt, or decline.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum

Mettenberger is more proven than that guy you want to risk a 5th pick on.

Certainly not proven enough for the Titans not to use the #2 overall pick on his replacement though. It looks to me like he's 'proven' to LSU fans, but for everyone else, the jury is still out.

Add them, just not by wasting a first-round pick.

So is using a first round pick a 'waste' if the talent warrants it and the need obviously exists?

And for the love of God, not a loser like Johnny Manziel. Enough with these wastoids.

In his defense, he's looked much more capable this year than the likes of anyone we've put on the field...[/quote]
 
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Whenever you see someone go down on their shoulder, with their torso perpendicular to the ground, and some monster DL crashing down on that with about 500-1000 pounds of force, then something's gonna give and it's usually the clavicle. It can also be the labrum, which is the cartilaginous cup that the head of the humerus rest in....... Neither injury is humerous.

Mockig my lack of medical expertise, not Romo. Love Romo
 
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