Stephen Jones says the 1 priority in the offseason is to find a backup Qb

[BigStar]

 

[IrishAnto]

Of course there's a bigger problem.


A -15 turnover differential.

If we go defense with our first pick who would realistically make a significant dent in that number?

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I'm talking top two rounds. Anything else is not taking it seriously.

I feel ya.

If he gets a top pick in here, or he does sign Johnny (Which, as I've stated I'm totally against) I would have believe they were doing so with the idea of the person being Romo's eventual replacement.

Anything else and it's obvious they're just looking at the right then, with no planning for beyond.

 

[Sydla]

Bringing Manziel here would patently stupid and typical Jerry. Manziel will be on and off suspension the rest of his career. He's a tiny alcoholic headcase who refuses to watch film.

Perhaps Sam Bradford as a backup?

I do not want to spend a top pick on a backup anything. This team needs more Byron Jones and La'el Collins, not clipboard holders.

With the way he's been playing recently, which isn't awful but somewhat good, he's about to get a payday. Rumors are the 49ers would have serious interest if he hit free agency, the Browns also covet him and the Eagles are stuck in a situation where if he finishes the season halfway decently, they might have no choice but to resign him because they have no options themselves.

 

[BigStar]

Gotta read between the lines. Even a number one pick would be a backup to Romo beginning next year hopefully that's what he means because if they're not going to bring in a legit quarterback we're doomed again

When I hear back up QB specifically, I'm not getting a rd 1 pick vibe from Stephen (unfortunately). But who knows, it may be a PR thing to prevent Romo from being asking if the team has moved on from him, etc. until the team does snatch one early 1st round.

 

[Sydla]

Its based on other things he has said and his actions over the last 20 years. He did the same thing with Aikman. Was too much of a wussy to draft Aikmans replacement before he retired because he didnt want to offend Aikman. These are Jerry's own words. Until then it was all backup veteran journeymen. Then he got desperate and used a 3rd round pick on Quincy and handed him the keys to the franchise. Its happening all over again.

He has already said that he would be worried that drafting a young QB would offend Tony. The guy is out of his mind.

They saying the #1 priority is backup QB instead of saying a QB of the future is just more evidence they are still in the dumb and dumber mind frame. The Cowboys are a joke and its no mystery why. And Stephen apparently is just as clueless as his father. Sadly enough.

Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, Jason Garrett. That has to be the worst management team in the history of sports. It really is a complete hose job being a Dallas Cowboys fan. I wish I could like another team. Really, I wish I could. This franchise and team is much easier to hate than love. No question.

Unless of course you enjoy embarrassment, mediocrity, disappointment.

And yet two years ago, if Jerry got his way, we would have drafted Manziel in the first round. His own words confirm it. So there goes the current theory Jerry doesn't want to hurt Romo's feelings and take a QB in the draft. Maybe he learned from the Aikman situation?

 

[BigStar]

How about you find two competent safeties.

One decade and running...this band aid approach doesn't allow for foresight.

 

[Sydla]

It really is funny when you think about it.

For years, people killed Jones for too often drafting for need. Then in recent years, we've seemed to go strictly BPA in the first round and now people want to rip him if he doesn't use a Top 10 pick on a QB who we don't even know might be high on their own board.

 

[Frozen700]

Back up? How about Romos replacement. No time like the present.

Exactly.....

I'm ready to move on

 

[Doc50]

I will say this, if Jones ends up signing Griffin after the Commanders dump him, I will go mental. Straight jacket, padded room, whole nine yards.

Any asylums nearby?

Naw, I don't think even JJ would want that; RG has proven to be famously unreliable.

 

[LucaBrasi]

Any asylums nearby?

Naw, I don't think even JJ would want that; RG has proven to be famously unreliable.

"you don't get to the SB laying up, you go for the green." - GM that drafted Quincy Carter in round 2 of NFL Draft.

history has taught us anything is possible.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Ever consider both those roles could be the same player? Do you know for a fact that isn't what Stephen was thinking?

Yes I considered it. And if it was anyone else but the Jones, I might believe it. Knowing them and their past history its pretty clear to me what it means. They arent even thinking about Romo's successor. In their minds they are doing everything they can to win NOW with Romo while he still has life left in him. They will worry about the future when that is over. So using a top 5 pick on a QB that wont play for 3 to 5 years doesnt jive with that plan. For the last 10 years they begin every year as if we are only one or two players away from winning it all. In their minds. Short term thinking is the norm.

Or do you disagree?

 

[CowboyRoy]

Hard to believe they were a blown call away from the NFC championship game less than one year ago isn't it?

Not really. They have some good talent and when you add an incredible run game to Romo playing 16 games with our Oline, that is pretty powerful. But of course they screwed up the run game all on their own. Everybody and their brother was telling them they were screwing up. They stuck their noses up at everyone and did what they wanted. And lets not forget what a pitiful division we reside in. We should have won the NFC East the last 5 years in a row. This year with Romo missing most of the season is the only legitimate excuse.

 

[CowboyRoy]

And yet two years ago, if Jerry got his way, we would have drafted Manziel in the first round. His own words confirm it. So there goes the current theory Jerry doesn't want to hurt Romo's feelings and take a QB in the draft. Maybe he learned from the Aikman situation?

That is actually a valid point. But that would have been foolish. He liked the flash and dash of Manziel. Which has been his undoing.

But Jerry has said himself that he isnt drafting Romo's successor this year. He said he wouldnt want the controversy.

Just another indication that Jerry changes with the wind. No set plan. Every year its some dumb new idea or holding onto some dumb idea too long. Like thinking that continuity in coaching is important. Yah, well not when your current head coach is horrible.

 

[silver]

Peyton can barely feel or grip a football because his nerve is too damaged in his neck. Romo has a broken bone that he pushed to get back too early. He took a chance and lost. It'll heal.

The bigger worry is the back, but by most accounts, his type of back injury isn't as problematic as most if he just manages his throwing schedule during the week.

And yes, ALL quarterbacks can get hurt. Romo, Flacco, Luck, Hoyer, Brees, Peyton, Bradford, Palmer, Stanton, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Cutler, Tannehill....lots of guys have had significant injuries in the past 12 months.

That's the game. People act like it's only Romo.

Exactly, which is why we need a quality back-up. And if he can be groomed to be the heir apparent all the better. It's time.

 

[Junglist]

Agree.

His arm looks stronger than I expected.


As a backup for Romo I think he is absolutely perfect.. I just don't know if he is worth the circus he brings.

He's not.

 

[Sydla]

Yes I considered it. And if it was anyone else but the Jones, I might believe it. Knowing them and their past history its pretty clear to me what it means. They arent even thinking about Romo's successor. In their minds they are doing everything they can to win NOW with Romo while he still has life left in him. They will worry about the future when that is over. So using a top 5 pick on a QB that wont play for 3 to 5 years doesnt jive with that plan. For the last 10 years they begin every year as if we are only one or two players away from winning it all. In their minds. Short term thinking is the norm.

Or do you disagree?

Then why did Jerry admit multiple times he wanted Manziel and if he had gotten his way they probably would have taken him?

To run the concession stands at AT&T?

My guess is the reason why no QB has been taken in recent years is because there was none that really peaked their interest at the spots they were drafting. Not because Jones is afraid to insult Romo. If that were the case, Jones would never had admitted multiple times he wanted Manziel and had to be talked into taking Martin instead.

And people better get prepared.............. the Cowboys may not view Lynch or Goff as elite level QBs to waste a Top 5 pick on. In recent years, they've gone BPA on their board in the first round and they won't reach just for the sake of filling a need.

 

[erod]

You're in the best position to get a quarterback of the future that you've been in years. And everyone hopes that this is an anomaly and not something that will soon be repeated. If we're drafting in a similar position next year, there will be more changes than just a quarterback. So, if not now, when do you draft a quarterback of the future?

I'm not advocating forcing one, but if the talent is there, why wouldn't you draft him? This team needs more long term thinking and less 'missing piece of the puzzle' decision-making.

Are the Cowboys good enough to win big next year with Romo? Yes, so you go get someone that can contribute now.

While you're grooming your next drafted QB, half your team will retire, leave in free agency, get hurt, or decline. That's why you strike while the iron is hot.

Stay young, but win now, especially if you're lucky enough to have a Romo. I'd rather go out and trade for a Mettenberger than draft some coin flip from Memphis.

Treadwell from Ole Miss. Ragland from Alabama. Somebody immediately awesome.

 

[Sydla]

That is actually a valid point. But that would have been foolish. He liked the flash and dash of Manziel. Which has been his undoing.

But Jerry has said himself that he isnt drafting Romo's successor this year. He said he wouldnt want the controversy.

Just another indication that Jerry changes with the wind. No set plan. Every year its some dumb new idea or holding onto some dumb idea too long. Like thinking that continuity in coaching is important. Yah, well not when your current head coach is horrible.

Where is this quote? And when was it said? last week? 2 years ago? 5 years ago?

 

[Doc50]

So you all believe that there is a quarterback in this upcoming draft that is worth a top 3 pick?

I don't and I am not on board for drafting a quarterback that early just to say we did. What good does it do to draft a quarterback that high with limited talent to learn behind Romo for a couple of years if that quarterback isn't worth a darn.

There are going to be options in free agency to upgrade our backup spot. We can even draft a quarterback in the middle rounds to see what they have, but if you are going to spend a top 3 or 5 pick on a quarterback you better make sure that the consensus between scouts and talent evaluators is that he is a sure thing. Of course with these players you never really know, but you can get a pretty good idea.

I also hope that we aren't seriously considering making a play for Manziel in the offseason. He is a waste of time.

I think any QB taken in this year's draft will need to sit for at least 2 years. Of course, the higher picks certainly may be relatively more likely to succeed, but we all know how uncertain that is. So if the first pick is used on someone who won't see much of the field for 2 years, that is very poor production and may not be worth the value of such a high pick.

I'm all in for having the most highly researched big board and going BPA, but that board should be constructed by thinking about what our system's top priorities are, and that of course considers need. But even if we'd drafted a QB gem in the 5th round 4-5 years ago, he'd now be ready to start for someone else as a FA (same problem GB had with Favre). One could likewise say that a 2nd was wasted on Escobar, as it was too early to replace Witten.

Let's try to get someone with the highest value to our team in rounds 1 & 2; someone who could start next year.