Video: Stephen Jones: Will Jaylon Play? Zeke Update

[JoeyBoy718]

Give him a game for the blouse incident. It was caught on camera. Hopefully it'll teach him to be an adult. As far as the DV stuff goes, too many false allegations go on these days so the NFL should wait to hear back on the results of the criminal investigation before making any decisions. I think he deserves a game for pulling down the lady's blouse. You're famous and you shouldn't be acting like that, especially not in public.

 

[The Quest for Six]

It was a sexual assault, followed by a physical assault of the sexual assaulter.

Pardon me if I don't give a crap about the physical assault.

Sexual assault, you mean when Zeke exposed a woman's Breast without her consent.... so you now believe Zeke was the assaulter and justified then, that's your stance???

 

[erod]

Sexual assault, you mean when Zeke exposed a woman's Breast without her consent.... so you now believe Zeke was the assaulter and justified then, that's your stance???

Have you ever been to Mardi Gras? Do you know that same girl was with him, went to Miami with him afterward, and filed no charges?

 

[The Quest for Six]

Have you ever been to Mardi Gras? Do you know that same girl was with him, went to Miami with him afterward, and filed no charges?

Again you and many on this forum seem to be hung up on the criminal charges or convictions, the NFL under the code of conduct policy doesn't need charges or a conviction to justify a fine or suspension of a player, it's the same for a company you work for, they can suspend you for conduct or fire you, there's no difference, stop getting hung up on criminal charges or convictions, they are irrelevant!

 

[erod]

Again you and many on this forum seem to be hung up on the criminal charges or convictions, the NFL under the code of conduct policy doesn't need charges or a conviction to justify a fine or suspension of a player, it's the same for a company you work for, they can suspend you for conduct or fire you, there's no difference, stop getting hung up on criminal charges or convictions, they are irrelevant!

The girl had been flashing everybody all day.

This isn't assault.

 

[The Quest for Six]

The girl had been flashing everybody all day.

This isn't assault.

You weren't there so you don't know...... Stop justifying behavior because you're a fan and he plays for the Cowboys.....like I said, if he is suspended a game or two or not it wouldn't surprise me, but he's pushing his luck with these constant incidents off the field...

 

[PBCCowboy]

Two words:Brian Banks.
Brian Banks was falsely accused and spent some time in jail for a crime he never committed.
The NFL would be wise to consider that case.
A man's life was destroyed over a capricious act of spite.
In Zeke's case,the law found no grounds to charge him.
The NFL has nothing to gain and plenty to lose here.

 

[erod]

You weren't there so you don't know...... Stop justifying behavior because you're a fan and he plays for the Cowboys.....like I said, if he is suspended a game or two or not it wouldn't surprise me, but he's pushing his luck with these constant incidents off the field...

She's a stripper, so.....

 

[plasticman]

The domestic violence issue is dead, no way a suspension would stick given the time frame and final disposition. Suspending him for the bar fight would meam any player could be suspended for being at tje wrong place at the wrong time.

That leaves the exposed breast issue, something that first gained national notoriety during a Super Bowl halftime show. A little hypocritical?

Other than some other unreported issue.....they got nuttin'.

 

[Cowboys22]

I think the league has leaked several possible outcomes to gauge reaction. They have a very weak case but some owners still want a suspension. I Come lad see it coming down to the league making a behind the scene deal with Jones on a one game suspension timed to allow Jerry to chose the game Zeke will miss by appealing it and a final decision not being made until the week of whatever game Jerry chooses. That may satisfy all sides and allow the league to save face. I won't like any punishment at all because it sets a precedent and anything else he may do will receive harsher punishment than is warranted because he has already been punished once.

 

[erod]

It's telling that the only story we're really interested in at this moment has to be rat-holed in the Drama Zone.

Not sure what that says, but it ain't good.

 

[erod]

The domestic violence issue is dead, no way a suspension would stick given the time frame and final disposition. Suspending him for the bar fight would meam any player could be suspended for being at tje wrong place at the wrong time.

That leaves the exposed breast issue, something that first gained national notoriety during a Super Bowl halftime show. A little hypocritical?

Other than some other unreported issue.....they got nuttin'.

If Zeke gets suspended, there had better be 20 suspensions a week in the league going forward. Every time a player touches a girl at a club. Every time a girl here mad at a player. Every time a player goes to a strip club and beers a lap dance.

 

[erod]

Give him a game for the blouse incident. It was caught on camera. Hopefully it'll teach him to be an adult. As far as the DV stuff goes, too many false allegations go on these days so the NFL should wait to hear back on the results of the criminal investigation before making any decisions. I think he deserves a game for pulling down the lady's blouse. You're famous and you shouldn't be acting like that, especially not in public.

So what about putting your hand on a girl's butt in the dance floor at the club? What about rude cat calls? What about lap dances?

 

[lkelly]

Claims that the Cowboys are going to sue the league, that there will be some sort of boycott or a player strike, or really anything other than a short statement that says that the team hopes that Zeke has learned a lesson and that they will focus on the players that are available are just delusional.

Jerry didn't fight the salary cap penalties which seemed way out of line. He's not going to fight a Zeke suspension because it is a league policy between the NFL and the player. That's the NFLPA's domain to complain on behalf of its union member.

Jerry's just putting the sunshine spin on things with his statement. Have you not learned from him spinning good news to the press for the last quarter century? He's a salesman, not a renegade Al Davis litigious combatant.

 

[diefree666]

You weren't there so you don't know...... Stop justifying behavior because you're a fan and he plays for the Cowboys.....like I said, if he is suspended a game or two or not it wouldn't surprise me, but he's pushing his luck with these constant incidents off the field...

guess what? YOU WEREN'T THERE EITHER.

 

[dogunwo]

I think he's getting suspended. I think it's going to be 4 games or so and I don't really think the Cowboys can do anything about it, other then waste money on a Lawyer. Nobody in the league is going to support Jerry on this IMO. I think it is what it is.

On what grounds? Domestic Violence? Surely that can't be it because that is supposed to be an automatic 6 games. Personal conduct policy? That can't be it either. Pac Man Jones has done way worse, including being a repeat offender and he only received a 1 game suspension.

"On January 3, 2017, Jones was arrested in Cincinnati's central district. According to court documents, Jones was arrested around 1 AM for obstructing official business, disorderly conduct, assault, and a felony charge of harassment with a bodily substance. On May 15, 2017 Jones accepted a plea agreement, pleading guilty to one count of obstructing a police officer. He received credit for time served - two days in jail. Jones received a one game suspension from the NFL on July 21, 2017, regarding the incident."

Source: Wikipedia

 

[erod]

On what grounds? Domestic Violence? Surely that can't be it because that is supposed to be an automatic 6 games. Personal conduct policy? That can't be it either. Pac Man Jones has done way worse, including being a repeat offender and he only received a 1 game suspension.

"On January 3, 2017, Jones was arrested in Cincinnati's central district. According to court documents, Jones was arrested around 1 AM for obstructing official business, disorderly conduct, assault, and a felony charge of harassment with a bodily substance. On May 15, 2017 Jones accepted a plea agreement, pleading guilty to one count of obstructing a police officer. He received credit for time served - two days in jail. Jones received a one game suspension from the NFL on July 21, 2017, regarding the incident."neighbour

Source: Wikipedia

Exactly. If Pacman only got one game for that after his decade of behavior, how could Zeke get suspended at all for this?

 

[Sydla]

The NFL is in a real pickle on this.

Jerry, and now Stephen, have sent a warning. Any suspension will be challenged, so get ready for it. Don't you dare do it.

The league wants to suspend Zeke, and owners are pressuring for it (especially one), but there simply isn't adequate grounds to do so, and the NFL knows it. When you take over a year on an investigation, you look really stupid if you don't suspend him. (What in the world have you been doing all this time then?)

The NFL is trying to find a way to save face. I think they're trying to "negotiate" behind the scenes as to what Zeke and the Cowboys will accept. But the Cowboys are balking at any suspension, so here we are. The league is stuck, and they know it.

The NFLPA is perched and waiting, too.

This could get messy. The NFL needs to do the right thing, and just drop it.

It also compounds things if people in the league office have been leaking info to guys like Schefter and Carter and others in the media.

They've now set the expectation that a punishment is coming. So the league is really stuck now. If they do the right thing and admit there just isn't enough evidence to punish Elliott and don't suspend him, they are going to take a ton of heat from some owners and media around the country.

But if they push forth with a punishment and the Jones' decide to fight this thing, it could potentially expose the NFL to some embarrassing moments.

This is precisely the problem with the league dragging this out a year. It allows the NFL to lose control of the issue and now they are stuck. If they had conducted a thorough investigation in a few months (which easily could have been done), they could have put this thing to rest and no one would even care by today. But instead, they dragged this out for as long as they could and now they've put themselves smack dab in the middle of a real sticky situation.

 

[Sydla]

I think he's getting suspended. I think it's going to be 4 games or so and I don't really think the Cowboys can do anything about it, other then waste money on a Lawyer. Nobody in the league is going to support Jerry on this IMO. I think it is what it is.

Jerry doesn't need the support of the other owners. If they believe they have the law on their side, there is nothing the other owners can do about it.

Let's also remember, that it was reported that Jerry took one for the "team" after the arbitrator ruled against him and Synder in that uncapped year fiasco. Most legal experts said if the Cowboys and Commanders had pushed it, they had a pretty legit case if they wanted to push the NFL on it. But Jerry decided that he would defer to the rest of the league and move on.

So it's quite possible Jerry remembers being the good soldier then and if the league wants him to do it again, Jerry might tell them tough $%#@. You screwed me once and I let you, it's not going to happen again.

 

[Jarv]

On what grounds? Domestic Violence? Surely that can't be it because that is supposed to be an automatic 6 games. Personal conduct policy? That can't be it either. Pac Man Jones has done way worse, including being a repeat offender and he only received a 1 game suspension.

"On January 3, 2017, Jones was arrested in Cincinnati's central district. According to court documents, Jones was arrested around 1 AM for obstructing official business, disorderly conduct, assault, and a felony charge of harassment with a bodily substance. On May 15, 2017 Jones accepted a plea agreement, pleading guilty to one count of obstructing a police officer. He received credit for time served - two days in jail. Jones received a one game suspension from the NFL on July 21, 2017, regarding the incident."

Source: Wikipedia

What, no 13 months of investigation and the hiring of 4 special agents?