Twitter: Steve Young thinks the Cowboys can learn a lot from Cooper Rush's performance

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So the formula for winning is a defense and a running game....but Dallas thinks so much of Dak they move away from that instead ofgoing with what wins games?? Interesting theory.
It's odd.
This was the formula in 2014 but Romo could win a game with his arm if required or make the necessary throws to win games. The Saints did this with Brees in the last 3-4 years of his career as well. Interesting as the team (Saints) had winning regular seasons during this time unlike the prior three seasons.
 

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Yeah dak is far away the more skilled and high ceiling player. I can’t argue that rush is better at playing quarterback as of right now though…..that can change quick.

Thats not an accurate description of Dak at all. We saw Daks ceiling last year. In the end, winning is what matters. Cooper won a big game that nobody picked us to win and he did it in style engineering that drive at the end ........a rarity for Dak.
 

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So then why has Dak's pass attempts gone from 459 in 2016 (when Dallas went 13-3) to career highs of 596 in 2019 and 2021 (when Dallas went 8-8 and 11-5)? Based on the previous logic shouldn't Dak's attempts stayed lower instead of increasing so much year after year?
It should’ve stayed lower. What’s your point?
 

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There actually quarterbacks in the Hall of Fame that didn't go to, and/or win a Superbowl until after their 6th, 7th season. Oh, but I forgot..... other quarterbacks can get the benefit of the doubt around their 7th year except for Dak.

By the way, this would actually be his 6th full year.

Its also hilarious how some of you REACH, trying to paint a false narrative of Dak being injury prone. Dak is one of the toughest quarterbacks in the league....

With that said, the only major injuries Dak has was his ankle and hand.... let me ask you this.
Name me ONE quarterback in the history of the NFL, who's ankle wouldn't have snapped like Dak's did with 200 plus pounds of a grown man falling on it???

Name me ONE quarterback in NFL history who's fingers/thumbs could have sustained back to back collisions with another man's powerful arm swinging on a crash course with the quarterback's hand while its coming forward??? Its not like Dak has weak tendons, bone structure problems or hamstring issues. Nobody would have avoided those injuries he got. Thats not called injury prone. Try harder next time.... enjoy the fact that we got a solid backup who's playing well.

Some people must have miserable lives to go through such great lengths to discredit another person. You put that much energy into hardwork, you all would be rich. **** is too funny!!
We've been getting along pretty well lately, let's not ruin it okay?

You're wasting your time trying to convince me that Dak is this high level QB just like I chose not to waste my time trying to convince you that he's not as great as you think he is.

Neither one of us is going to convince the other, so let's just not try, okay? lol
 

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We've been getting along pretty well lately, let's not ruin it okay?

You're wasting your time trying to convince me that Dak is this high level QB just like I chose not to waste my time trying to convince you that he's not as great as you think he is.

Neither one of us is going to convince the other, so let's just not try, okay? lol


Nah, we're good!!! But your we're reaching on that "injury" angle, I mean cmon....
 

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We ran the ball more when Rush played this week than when Dak played last week. Is that an excuse or real facts?? Care to explain?

So what?

We ran the ball 14 times against TB last year in arguably Dak’s greatest game as a Cowboy. Dak was given 28 run plays and checked out of 12. So Dak was checking out of the run plays Moore called. You guys had no problems then. You have ZERO credibility in your claims regarding what Moore did or did not do, when this whole franchise has been tailored to this mediocre scrub we have at QB who can’t even run his own offense as good as a backup QB who looked better in his second game starting than Dak does regularly in year 7 of his own offense.

This year, we ran ELEVEN times the whole first half against Tampa and 14, by our first series in the third by the time we were down 19-3. Claiming we didn’t run the ball with Dak when we ran it 14 times with a half to go is a joke.

We also were up this second game by 2 TDs, not down 19-3. Obviously we’d start to be more conservative this game. I’m surprised garbage-stats Dak didn’t do better than he normally does at padding stats when down by more than three scores.

Further, that says ZERO about the claim about plays being different. Rush has been practicing in this offense for 4 years and he ran the same offense against the Vikings and looked better doing it than Dak normally does and in the process was able to get the ball to Amari Cooper, along with the rest of the WRs.

Rush got the ball out quicker period and used the middle of the field better and didn’t look like a deer in the headlights in the pocket.
 
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It seems Cooper is running the offense the way it's supposed to be run. Take your shots downfield to spread the defense. Dak seems to see ghosts out there and his vision is limited. Unsure of himself which causes inaccuracy on his passes. Someone on the forum said his problems are mental and i agree.... he does not look to run anymore and is more concerned with the rush and his check downs. Hampers the offense.
NFL QBs need a very rare trait to excel at a high level, the ability to make multiple decisions and reads in nanoseconds. At this point, I think Dak quite simply doesn't have this ability. That would explain why he looks so good at times and so bad at other times.
 

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I said this yesterday but I feel this offense is more suited for Rush. Rush took snaps under center in college so he’s use to it. Dak is by far the more dynamic player but probably not in this offense
 

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I said this yesterday but I feel this offense is more suited for Rush. Rush took snaps under center in college so he’s use to it. Dak is by far the more dynamic player but probably not in this offense
Dynamic? yes. Consistent? no
 

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So what?

We ran the ball 14 times against TB last year in arguably Dak’s greatest game as a Cowboy. Dak was given 28 run plays and checked out of 12. So Dak was checking out of the run plays Moore called. You guys had no problems then. You have ZERO credibility in your claims regarding what Moore did or did not do, when this whole franchise has been tailored to this mediocre scrub we have at QB who can’t even run his own offense as good as a backup QB who looked better in his second game starting than Dak does regularly in year 7 of his own offense.

This year, we ran ELEVEN times the whole first half against Tampa and 14, by our first series in the third by the time we were down 19-3. Claiming we didn’t run the ball with Dak when we ran it 14 times with a half to go is a joke.

We also were up this second game by 2 TDs, not down 19-3. Obviously we’d start to be more conservative this game. I’m surprised garbage-stats Dak didn’t do better than he normally does at padding stats when down by more than three scores.

Further, that says ZERO about the claim about plays being different. Rush has been practicing in this offense for 4 years and he ran the same offense against the Vikings and looked better doing it than Dak normally does and in the process was able to get the ball to Amari Cooper, along with the rest of the WRs.

Rush got the ball out quicker period and used the middle of the field better and didn’t look like a deer in the headlights in the pocket.


I agree that Moore got it out quicker, I never said he didn't....

But you have ZERO credibility claiming which plays Dak audibled out of runs. Did Dak or Kellen tell you that themselves???
 

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Thats not an accurate description of Dak at all. We saw Daks ceiling last year. In the end, winning is what matters. Cooper won a big game that nobody picked us to win and he did it in style engineering that drive at the end ........a rarity for Dak.
So you really think cooper rush has more physical talent than Dak? I’m far from the crowd that wants to claim dak as a top qb in this league, but the Cooper Rush fanatics right now are more dak haters than rush supporters. The fact that so many are threatened by the idea that Dak Prescott is being labeled as more talented than a guy who wouldn’t start for 90% of the league is just crazy to me.
 

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Thats not an accurate description of Dak at all. We saw Daks ceiling last year. In the end, winning is what matters. Cooper won a big game that nobody picked us to win and he did it in style engineering that drive at the end ........a rarity for Dak.
7th year. Upside waning. Or gone.
 

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So the formula for winning is a defense and a running game....but Dallas thinks so much of Dak they move away from that instead ofgoing with what wins games?? Interesting theory.
Passing fills the seats.

This goes directly to the fact that Jerry does not care about winning. Posters keep claiming that he does, but then he goes straight back to the passpasspass sort of O, the one that loses. Meanwhile, every time we start running the ball more, we win.
 

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Jerry will stick with Dak obviously given the contract but Steve is right: both Dak and Moore need to realize the game that was called for Cooper is how it should be called for Dak. Dak tries to play beyond himself instead of just doing what needs to be done.

Re watched the game. Big difference to me is Rush gets the ball out quicker, and makes decisions faster. Dak to me is always surveying the field. With great blocking and a good scheme it works when receivers are open, but otherwise the difference is very noticeable.
 
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