Still optimistic and what happend to C-Mike?

coult44 said:
You're off your rocker today, or you don't pay attention much to what's said before and after games. Our old friend Ryan told us after the game, in case you weren't listening, that When JJ told the world that CMIKE was going to get the ball on extreme short yard situations that his defense knew exactly what to do. He was hit almost exactly when he got the ball. That was the dumbest play call we made all night. Proves how worthless our coaching really was!!!
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If you watch the play in slow motion, he had a chance if he didn't run right up Witten's backside.

Yes, I think the blocking is the problem. It was problem for C-Mike but it is also the problem with the other RBs.
 
xwalker said:
I'm still optimistic about this season.


What happened to Christine Michael? There are short yardage backs and other specialty players that have to come in to the game "cold" so that's not an excuse. They just needed him to get a yard and he went backwards.

He only got 1 carry despite the fact that the coaches appeared to be irritated with Randle and started using McFadden more (11 carries for Randle, 10 for McFadden). McFadden appeared to be injured as he was more tentative in the 2nd half than he has been in previous games. It seemed the perfect time to see Michael but I guess the coaches just don't trust him.

Now that Dunbar is out and Randle has irritated the coaches, Michael really needs to step up next week; however, he had a big chance this week and failed miserably. I'm still optimistic but he needs to get serious in practice this week and get himself ready even if he has to come in "cold".
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Great observation, he played ONE play and people are throwing him under the bus...Really....But I didn't read anything about Randle getting benched or his lack of playing time in the second half......Hey CMIKE might not be the answer,..but he deserve a fair chance to see what he has or doesnt have.... But can you really base your comments on ONE PLAY.....

You are usually pretty fair and balanced with your writings, (except for your Parnell bais) Dont ya think your just a little biased about CMIKE...
 
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Bigdog24 said:
Great observation, he played ONE play and people are throwing him under the bus...Really....But I didn't read anything about Randle getting benched or his lack of playing time in the second half......Hey CMIKE might not be the answer,..but he deserve a fair chance to see what he has or doesnt have.... But can you really base your comments on ONE PLAY.....

You are usually pretty fair and balanced with your writings, (except for your Parnell basis) Dont ya think your just a little biased about CMIKE...
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If the blocking was the problem for C-Mike, then maybe the blocking is the problem for Randle and McFadden.
 
Bigdog24 said:
Great observation, he played ONE play and people are throwing him under the bus...Really....But I didn't read anything about Randle getting benched or his lack of playing time in the second half......Hey CMIKE might not be the answer,..but he deserve a fair chance to see what he has or doesnt have.... But can you really base your comments on ONE PLAY.....

You are usually pretty fair and balanced with your writings, (except for your Parnell bais) Dont ya think your just a little biased about CMIKE...
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This is bait thread and people are falling for it.

He wants people to blame the blocking on the Michael run so he can spin it around and still support his new pet Randle.
 
xwalker said:
So when Randle fails it on him but when Michael fails it the fault of the blockers?

Maybe, just maybe the blocking is just not that good this year.
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Randle has six starts and Michael has one carry.
 
xwalker said:
If the blocking was the problem for C-Mike, then maybe the blocking is the problem for Randle and McFadden.
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It's possible but we need to see more of Michael before we can make that determination.
 
xwalker said:
If the blocking was the problem for C-Mike, then maybe the blocking is the problem for Randle and McFadden.
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And now the truth comes out about your agenda and this thread. Is CMike vs Randle your new Free vs Parnell battle cry?
 
bkight13 said:
This is bait thread and people are falling for it.

He wants people to blame the blocking on the Michael run so he can spin it around and still support his new pet Randle.
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I think Randle is a moron that should not have dived over the pile after they told him not to do it again.
 
xwalker said:
I think Randle is a moron that should not have dived over the pile after they told him not to do it again.
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Then why are you starting threads to bash CMichael who has one carry, trying to get people to criticize the OL?

Does it all still revert back to Free????
 
Mike was setup to fail miserably, give them man a solid chance
 
That lone carry by C-Mike was merely one play and a highly obvious playcall vs. a loaded box. It's surely not like he failed to deliver despite a variety of opportunities. Let's not place too much emphasis nor blame on one fleeting attempt that was, at best, an obvious call to begin with. If he had failed to deliver anything of note after 15 or 20 attempts, then I might be concerned.
 
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bkight13 said:
Then why are you starting threads to bash CMichael who has one carry, trying to get people to criticize the OL?

Does it all still revert back to Free????
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I'm not bashing anybody (unless his name if Doug Free).

You guys hyped up C-Mike and said he would be a great power back for short yardage. He got his chance and failed. I'm disappointed. Hopefully he is good next week.

I think Randle is a moron but he's generally gotten what the blocking allowed and sometimes much more. There have only been a few plays where I thought he could have done better. If Randle or McFadden and probably C-Mike get the blocking that Murray got last season then they'll start to have success. I don't see any of them succeeding without decent blocking because none of them (or Murray) are like Adrian Peterson in his prime.

Part of the blocking is related to not having Dez and Romo to back defenses off the line. Part of it is injury issues with Leary, Martin and Free. Some of it could be the TEs, FB, etc.. Swap Clutts out for Atlanta FB and there is a great chance the Cowboys are 4-0.

I would be happy if C-Mike or anybody beats out Randle but none of them are going to have success without reasonable blocking.
 
xwalker said:
Watch it in slow motion. He hesitated and didn't get low and try to power through. There was a smaller guy to his right that he could have powered over but he ran into the bigger DL and gave up. Very disappointing. I had high hopes for this guy.
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Maybe true but those split second decisions would normally be there with a bit more playing time.
 
Wolfpack said:
A JG team with out Calllahan. He used to call traps and pulls on the goal line…he doesn't get the running game.
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Exactly. It's becoming more and more clear that Callahan was the reason for our OL dominance and that without him our OL is average, and incredibly stupid, at best.
 
Just my opinion:

Ive been beating the drum for Michael for a while now. I was one of the " Trade for C Mike" guys in preseason, but I've been getting very discouraged.

Randle to me isnt not a starting quality HB in a traditional offense. I think he could well in a spread type offense running with space. As a pure player he has a very middling skill set where he doesn't do anything particularly well. His best traits are good quickness and cutting ability and slightly above average vision. However he doesnt have the speed or power to truly exploit those as an every down runner. He needs much more support then a starting HB should. Not good blocking but almost impeccable blocking. In a traditional offense he is purely a backup capable of slashing through a worn out defense.

Now back to Michael. Ive grown discouraged with him because its taken him a month to even get on the active roster despite the fact that our lead back is a glorified backup. And when he does get activated he gets all of 1 carry. He must not have shown enough in practice to make them believe he is better then Randle.

Maybe its a situation like 2011 with Felix Jones and Demarco Murray where they kept playing Jones and once Murray got a legit chance he blew up. But im not counting on it

I think we should make a move for a legit HB
 
darthseinfeld said:
Just my opinion:

Ive been beating the drum for Michael for a while now. I was one of the " Trade for C Mike" guys in preseason, but I've been getting very discouraged.

Randle to me isnt not a starting quality HB in a traditional offense. I think he could well in a spread type offense running with space. As a pure player he has a very middling skill set where he doesn't do anything particularly well. His best traits are good quickness and cutting ability and slightly above average vision. However he doesnt have the speed or power to truly exploit those as an every down runner. He needs much more support then a starting HB should. Not good blocking but almost impeccable blocking. In a traditional offense he is purely a backup capable of slashing through a worn out defense.

Now back to Michael. Ive grown discouraged with him because its taken him a month to even get on the active roster despite the fact that our lead back is a glorified backup. And when he does get activated he gets all of 1 carry. He must not have shown enough in practice to make them believe he is better then Randle.

Maybe its a situation like 2011 with Felix Jones and Demarco Murray where they kept playing Jones and once Murray got a legit chance he blew up. But im not counting on it

I think we should make a move for a legit HB
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I've heard you can have AP for three 1st round picks.
 
CMike got his chance on a 4th and 1 and what did he do? He got swallowed up in a sea of humanity. I'll admit I only caught it on the replay and thought to myself, Demarco Murray is that you?
 
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