Sturm Debunks Dak and Dunk

[SDCowboy]

What?
Rushing TDs are irrelevant for QBs?

Don't waste the keystrokes, man. It's not even worth the time.

 

[Direwolf63]

Again, rushing TDs for QBs are irrelevant. There is almost zero utility in them unless you are running an option style offense. The ability to throw an occasional 35 yard touchdown pass, however, is extremely valuable. It prevents your team from having to settle for field goals or grind out a long drive with flag-happy refs watching and potential turnovers looming. And it's completely missing from our dink and dunk attack.

So TD passes by a QB are relevant but running TD's by a QB are not. Gotcha.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

That is stupid, TD are relevant period that is the fircken object to put the ball in the endzone you don't understand that. Defense in redzone must account for Dak in those situation instead of just pinching down on Zeke they also have to keep 1 guy to spy on Dak if they drop into coverage they give Dak and easy run for the TD and again those TD count they mean a hell of a lot when trying to win football games.

LaDainian Tomlinson once had 28 rushing TDs in one season. His QB? The amazingly swift and elusive Philip Rivers.
QB TD runs are irrelevant. They have zero utility and can be performed by many other team members. Only the QB can throw that ball however. Nobody cares about QB TDs, except Dak slobberers trying to hide the fact he has 1 TD pass in the last 3 games I suppose.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Not trying to play a game. All I'm saying is I don't think we have the WRs on this team to make the deep ball work well consistently. We haven't had anybody like that since Terry Glenn. Or maybe TO.

And that's also the reason why I don't think they try it that often.

But that's just my opinion. Speaking for me only.

Romo managed to do it with the same cast two years ago. Butler is a much better deep threat than Harris. Throwin Lucky and its not contest which pass catching corps is better in my view.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

All that conversing hasn't won Romo a superbowl.

Don't you know. Tony is the only reason we win but you can't give him any blame if we lose. lol

 

[Clarkson]

Dak just dumps off to the safe receiver.

You got evidence for this claim?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So TD passes are relevant but running TD's are not. Gotcha.

He is saying that rushing TD are fungible while passing TD are not. I give the notion credence.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

I guess I don't understand those people.

This is the happiest and most excited I've been about the present and future of the team in a long time.

There's only been about 3 or 4 years in the last 20 that I've been excited and this is one of them. I guess some just like those 8-8 seasons.

 

[Clarkson]

Romo managed to do it with the same cast two years ago. Butler is a much better deep threat than Harris. Throwin Lucky and its not contest which pass catching corps is better in my view.

Dez has been banged up all year and missed games. Was totally healthy in 2014.
Dak has won games this year with Williams, Beasley, and Butler as his WRs.

 

[Direwolf63]

He is saying that rushing TD are fungible while passing TD are not. I give the notion credence.

Whatever. To me they are 6 points.

The rest is just gibberish that cannot be supported by numerical facts.

Dak is no more or no less a dink and dunk QB than any of the other top QB's. That's what the facts support and that's what I believe.

 

[erod]

Our line does most of that but good try in making Romo a saint. Romo is also the one who throws into crazy coverage, loses games with forced ints and has 2 playoff wins for all his brilliance. His best season was one identical to Dak right now. But hey, let's complain about an Pro Bowl rookie QB leading us to 12-2

And before you rip me I've spent years on here defending Romo. It's just laughable to say a guy is better fit a team when he hasn't played in 2 years, gets hurt and didn't even play well when he did get a game or two in

There's a big difference between 2014 Romo with a legitimate team and 2011 Romo with a band of gypsies, tramps, and thieves.

 

[NextGenBoys]

You do realize is ypa.......yards per attempt which means how far the ball went before it was caught. Has nothing to do with how many yards total after the catch

This isn't accurate at all. Yards Per Attempt is how many passing yards you rack up her attempt. You may be thinking of adjusted ypa

 

[Clarkson]

We are 20th in the league in passing TD. We are second in rushing TD.

..So what? We have one of the best running games in the league. We don't have to throw the ball very often inside the 10. No one would say our passing game is stronger than the run game. Teams play to their strengths. How often is a team top-2 in rush TD and also highly-ranked in pass TD? Can't score two touchdowns on one drive.

 

[Doomsday101]

Thing is I don't think Dak cares much about the individual stats he is trying to help his team win football games by what ever means he needs to. Hell Aikman was no different the most TD passes he had in any season was 23 to go along with 14 ints. Yet the team would go on to win the SB that season. Cowboys relied on Emmitt Smith and a great OL so what the object is to go out and win football games. Myself I don't care about most of the stats that get tossed around here, we have seen great stats on this team that have lead to nothing and has accomplished nothing. It is about winning by whatever means not some stat.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Some people would be much happier if we ended up 12-4 i guess, but Dak tossed the ball up 30 yards down field most of the game.

And anyone using one of the greatest QBs of all time as a barometer is funny too. Aikman did okay, and he couldnt hold Toms jock as far as passing.

The RZ % is skewed because we've had the toughest 3 game stretch against good defenses of anyone in the NFL. That stat alone is misleading unless you include the amount of penalties in the RZ as well, because they're killing us. Anyone watching can see that.

I can only speak for myself but if Dak was better throwing the ball downfield I would contend that we would have a better record than we have now. He is too easy to pigeonhole in the passing game.

The RZ % I have been linking is for the whole year. All teams play tough defenses.

In general, I would stay away from accusing others of not caring about winning. Personally, I am of the mindset of resting on your laurels and not looking for ways to improve is the fastest course to falling behind. Introspection and constructive criticism are tools of greatness.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

..So what? We have one of the best running games in the league. We don't have to throw the ball very often inside the 10. No one would say our passing game is stronger than the run game. Teams play to their strengths. How often is a team top-2 in rush TD and also highly-ranked in pass TD? Can't score two touchdowns on one drive.

So passing the ball is not our strength then by your logic here. I agree.

 

[gmoney112]

Can anyone provide stats/evidence that Dak is a dink and dunk QB? I've yet to see those anywhere.

There are none. An argument could be made for RZ TD efficiency (since we're still 4th in overall RZ efficiency) but a 3 game stretch against some of the best pass defense in the NFL and untimely penalties has skewed it a bit.

I'd also bet, overall, we have one of the most difficult schedules against pass defenses in the league. NFCE + AFCN + NFCN.

Here's a fun stat. Against the hottest defense in the NFL the last 5 months, Dak outperformed Brees, Wilson, and Rivers. And would have quietly led this team to putting up a 40 burger on said defense if his teammates didn't rack up penalty yardage in TB territory.

 

[erod]

Romo was excellent in 2014. That team had a chance to go to the NFC Championsjip game. Romo in 2015, however, wasn't good.

He was 3-1 though in 2015. 16-5 the past two years. 5-0 against New York.

I don't know if he can stay healthy, but if he could, he would stretch out the defenses for everybody and finish drives.

Dak is just awful in the red zone.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Actually he did throw one to Dunbar that was called back due to a Smith holding penalty remember.

Don't you know. That's Dak's fault too.

 

[Clarkson]

Dak is not dink and dunk but he is a bus driver at this point in his career. Safe and not pushing the envelope.

How many "bus drivers" put up the numbers he's put up?
How many bus drivers are top-5 in YPA and avg. air target?
Seriously, can you answer those questions, maybe with specific examples of guys you consider bus drivers who have done that?