Sturm - Marinelli Report - GB Playoff

[ghosttown cowboy]

Irving had great penetration and they tackled him ... from behind. Such BS

If you watch the ref, he watched that hold unfold and didn't look at Rogers until he was close to releasing the ball...He chose not to throw the flag...We have been flagged for much less all year long...

 

[Western]

What would have been.
When Heath sacked Rodgers, the proverbial opportunity to knock the ball out of Rodger's hands and cause a fumble with Scandrick right there to scoop up the ball existed.
20 seconds left, Dallas has the ball at the Green Bay 30 yard line, with Bailey ready to kick the game winner.
Rodgers was so damn lucky on that play.

Nonetheless, Heath showed up in that game.

 

[percyhoward]

I assume people want to see that call allowed to go, but it also seemed pretty cut and dried that any tugging in the open field with the intended target was likely going to attract the attention. Perhaps a five-yard defensive hold, but they charged 10 yards for pass interference. Both come with an automatic first down.

Both come with an automatic first down, but the huge, game-changing difference was that the PI penalty got them 5 yards closer to FG range and they ended up kicking the 56-yarder.

With a defensive holding penalty, they're punting instead.

And Witten's no-call showed us that not all tugging in the open field with the intended target was likely to attract equal attention.

 

[TNCowboy]

I don't blame the refs for the Cowboys losing, but I'm sorry, that's about as cut and dried a holding penalty as you'll see.

 

[Alexander]

It is not a coincidence that blitzing did not help and the two highest blitz percentage games against Minnesota and GB were losses or near losses.

Marinelli does not like blitzing, does not practice it enough and frankly his scheme integrity is not the same when it is done too much.

That is my big complaint with that scheme. It needs either an elite front four or you are playing with fire by blitzing to get the pressure.

It is not a defense capable of switching it on and off.

 

[perrykemp]

You cannot rush 3 and get virtually no pressure on Rodgers. Then on top of it allow Rodgers outside the pocket for even more time.

Even 8 in the secondary can only cover for so long.

Rodgers is an Elite NFL quarterback and he will simply murder you no matter how many you drop back into coverage if you allow him that kind of time. As we saw.

And what really makes me angry is that everyone already knows this about Aaron Rodgers.

Yet we did it anyway.

If we were going to get beaten by Aaron Rodgers, I would have preferred to go down fighting. Rush 4. And blitz every other down. Let the chips fall where they may.

It would have been far preferable to getting blown out in the 1st half the way it went down.

It looked like he was setting up for a Hail-Mary and the defense began to react accordIngly. When Rodgers decided <not> to throw a Hail Mary coverage broke down.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

You cannot rush 3 and get virtually no pressure on Rodgers. Then on top of it allow Rodgers outside the pocket for even more time.

Even 8 in the secondary can only cover for so long.

Rodgers is an Elite NFL quarterback and he will simply murder you no matter how many you drop back into coverage if you allow him that kind of time. As we saw.

And what really makes me angry is that everyone already knows this about Aaron Rodgers.

Yet we did it anyway.

If we were going to get beaten by Aaron Rodgers, I would have preferred to go down fighting. Rush 4. And blitz every other down. Let the chips fall where they may.

It would have been far preferable to getting blown out in the 1st half the way it went down.

I don't have a problem with rushing 3 in that instance.

What I do have a problem is with Lawrence taking an inside rush and allowing Rodgers to get outside the pocket. If he's in the pocket he doesn't make that throw IMO.

 

[Doomsday]

Another option the Cowboys had, that is dirty but not against the rules, is something I saw 2 other teams do this year.

Hold EVERY single receiver on the Packers. Yea you get a 5 yard penalty but who cares the clock runs out and they have to take a knee after that. Why even let them run down the field, just bear hug and hold the heck out of them.

 

[Meat-O-Rama]

It really bugs me that DLaw uses an inside pass rush here. It is just plain stupid, the one thing you don't want is Rodgers to get outside the pocket.

That throws isnt there if they contain him and the clock runs out as Cook caught that ball with 2 seconds left.

This. But not just on the last play. All day long they kept rushing inside and losing contain on Rodgers, who is at his absolute most dangerous rolling out of the pocket.

 

[Doomsday]

This. But not just on the last play. All day long they kept rushing inside and losing contain on Rodgers, who is at his absolute most dangerous rolling out of the pocket.

If you look at Sturm's chart of Rodgers you can see A LOT of them are throws to the sidelines. I think that is because when he is out of the pocket it makes it almost impossible for a defender to be in position to break up the pass. Perfect coverage if he is in the pocket is out of position when the angle of the pass is straight up the sidelines.

 

[gmoney112]

If you look at Sturm's chart of Rodgers you can see A LOT of them are throws to the sidelines. I think that is because when he is out of the pocket it makes it almost impossible for a defender to be in position to break up the pass. Perfect coverage if he is in the pocket is out of position when the angle of the pass is straight up the sidelines.

That's Rodgers whole thing. He "throws guys open" exactly like this.

 

[black label]

If Jaylon is 100 percent I cant wait to see what Marinelli is going to do with him

 

[DandyDon52]

What the heck are you supposed to do vs this?

There is a pump fake, a rollout, a throw with a guy barreling down on Rodgers and in his face, a laser shot throw with one leg in the air (terrible mechanics), and a ball that can only because by a WR because it is thrown slightly out of bounds.

Where Tom Brady said earlier this week that he stays up late past his bedtime to watch Rodger's night games, I suspect it's to see plays like that one.

Crazy.

Cook is rodgers go to guy, has been for the 7 game win streak, he should have been jammed and dbl covered,
take him out of the equation then these plays dont happen, which many were to cook.
On the last play cook was uncovered and free off the line .

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Cook is rodgers go to guy, has been for the 7 game win streak, he should have been jammed and dbl covered,
take him out of the equation then these plays dont happen, which many were to cook.
On the last play cook was uncovered and free off the line .

They were in a deep prevent which negates "jamming" at the LOS.

In addition if they doubled Cook then they're no longer playing zone, which again goes against the grain of prevent.

The throw to Cook could have been prevented by Lawrence not taking an inside pass rush and creating a log-jam of players in the middle thus allowing Rodgers to roll to his left.

 

[Hawkeye19]

If Jaylon is 100 percent I cant wait to see what Marinelli is going to do with him

Yah-- if he is able to play up to his potential and is 100% healthy, he is an amazing MLB prospect. Sideline to sideline guy, speed to drop deep and cover, brings the wood when he tackles, and he can blitz.

He can become the focus of the offensive gameplan-- which would let Sean Lee operate even more as a terror at WLB. Shift Hitchens to SLB and main backup and you have a very solid LB corps. That just leaves us to figure out fixing the DL and secondary lol...

 

[mahoneybill]

Thanks Bob for putting this together with the GIFs. I was waiting until Sturm posted this because I just read it. I'm actually way less mad at the defense after reading it and seeing some of these plays again.

A lot of the big throws Rodgers made which changed the game (particularly the 3rd and long after our Brice Butler gaffe punt, and the final throw) were just out of this world. No other QB makes those throws out of the pocket, period. Certainly not Dak, not 2014 Romo, and even Sturm intimates Rodgers himself couldn't make them most of the time. There were some bad plays/preparation by our defense for sure, but on the margin we were just beat by an insane performance by the best QB in the league. The last Heath sack also ends the game 90% of the time with a fumble.

One thing for sure the Pack practices these backup, run sideways, work the sidelines on a straight throw to a spot..... The videos Strum included show why its hard to get him once he escapes as he has a deeper drop and goes into his escape mode and has the arm strength accuracy to
pinpoint an area, plus his receivers come up big time with catches...

 

[mahoneybill]

If you watch the ref, he watched that hold unfold and didn't look at Rogers until he was close to releasing the ball...He chose not to throw the flag...We have been flagged for much less all year long...

Agree. I'm sure Tyron Smith is thinking, why do they flag me when I pancake someone and that other player gets away with it on a game changing play...

 

[Alexander]

This. But not just on the last play. All day long they kept rushing inside and losing contain on Rodgers, who is at his absolute most dangerous rolling out of the pocket.

We certainly seemed to be a little more under control with gap integrity in the first matchup.

I just think here there were a lot of blown assignments and blind rushing because we knew he was in the zone.

You cannot say Marinelli did not try everything. Just some of the blitzes especially did not get home, in particular when he sent Sean Lee. He just does not have a knack for it.

 

[jwooten15]

While I loved reading this article, it made me sick to relive that game. SO many plays that did/didn't happen and we would be preparing to host the Falcons in 3 days.

Chances like that don't come very often.

 

[jwooten15]

Agree. I'm sure Tyron Smith is thinking, why do they flag me when I pancake someone and that other player gets away with it on a game changing play...

This is why, Tyron. That was such an obvious call, there just isn't any other explanation.