Sturm - Marinelli Report - GB Playoff

[perrykemp]

The Marinelli defense.....always prepared and know what to do !

Rodgers is probably thinking man this is gonna be easy !
Carr is like man whats going on??
yeah JG had this team ready to play GB lol

There is a offensive formation you don't see often anymore...

2 WR
1 TE
1 FB
1 RB

 

[Doomsay]

Still spreading the lie that he was tackled from behind.

He was pancakes from the front/side. The video shows this clearly. Be an honest fan.

Maybe complain about the hold that should have been a safety earlier in the game.

Still spreading the lie that he was tackled from behind.

He was pancakes from the front/side. The video shows this clearly. Be an honest fan.

Maybe complain about the hold that should have been a safety earlier in the game.

He swings....and.... he misses!
I know you are mad at the team for benching Romo, but that shouldn't cloud your vision. Tony will play for another team next year, you can root for him there.

 

[cowboys1981]

He would have easily made the whole play a lot more difficult, breathing down the neck of Rodgers. I consider that another gift by the refs on purpose irrespective of the throw..

Very true, and that free linemen more and likely goes for Irving, leaving Durant a wide open lane to get to AR

 

[Kevinicus]

He swings....and.... he misses!
I know you are mad at the team for benching Romo, but that shouldn't cloud your vision. Tony will play for another team next year, you can root for him there.

Pathetic. The picture shows his arm on him. Where does it show that arm pulling him to the ground? The video trumps it in every way. You lose.

Maybe you should stop relying on the weakest evidence, especially when there is much stronger evidence available.

 

[visionary]

The Marinelli defense.....always prepared and know what to do !

Rodgers is probably thinking man this is gonna be easy !
Carr is like man whats going on??
yeah JG had this team ready to play GB lol

It is difficult to over state how unprepared they were under the leadership of our moronic HC

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Pathetic. The picture shows his arm on him. Where does it show that arm pulling him to the ground? The video trumps it in every way. You lose.

Maybe you should stop relying on the weakest evidence, especially when there is much stronger evidence available.

It shows his arm wrapped around the outside of his frame. It's textbook holding.

This should not be hard.

 

[Doomsday]

The link is at the top of this thread and if you actually read it, you would see this is what I said:

The video above shows that Lang certainly did something that could have been called, but definitely stopped short of tackling him, or jumping on for a horse-back ride like the picture indicates.

The center is blocking Irving and that is why Lang releases him, but the picture sure makes it look like a blown call -- and something we will talk about, along with the play itself, for decades. It is one more layer of the onion of this instant classic, when one side was elated and the other gutted at the end.

So, I must ask, where in there do you see me suggesting it was "a good no call"????

I pretty clearly said nothing of the sort.

I didn't think it was the worst hold ever allowed and I certainly didn't think it was clean. They let it go. But, you don't have to create false opinions. I provide plenty of real ones in this story.

I apologize for calling you out. Looks like I confused what you said, with something I read else where. I should of read it a second time before posting. Guess my frustrating got the best of me.

 

[Doomsay]

Pathetic. The picture shows his arm on him. Where does it show that arm pulling him to the ground? The video trumps it in every way. You lose.

Maybe you should stop relying on the weakest evidence, especially when there is much stronger evidence available.

Maybe you should follow a team that you actually root for and not against.

Here's another nice shot for you.

 

[Kevinicus]

It shows his arm wrapped around the outside of his frame. It's textbook holding.

This should not be hard.

A still frame does not indicate force. The arm slid around Irving as he went by.

It doesn't show a tackle either, which is what he said. Not hard at all.

 

[Kevinicus]

Maybe you should follow a team that you actually root for and not against.

Here's another nice shot for you.

Maybe you should google intellectual honesty. Rooting for a team doesn't mean putting blinders on and lying to yourself. I have never rooted against the Cowboys, but at least I am not so far gone that I can admit when they did commit a penalty, or the opponent did not. I certainly wouldn't resort to making things up like a tackle from behind. That's the worst kind of fan. Stop using 2 frames when there are 30-60 available. Still no still showing the arm tackling the guy.


There are/were bad calls made/missed. Stick to those as examples when you are going to complain.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

A still frame does not indicate force. The arm slid around Irving as he went by.

It doesn't show a tackle either, which is what he said. Not hard at all.

This is so full of it. He let go sure but you cannot wrap your arms around a defender like that. I guess you think he was just hugging him lightly?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Maybe you should google intellectual honesty. Rooting for a team doesn't mean putting blinders on and lying to yourself. I have never rooted against the Cowboys, but at least I am not so far gone that I can admit when they did commit a penalty, or the opponent did not. I certainly wouldn't resort to making things up like a tackle from behind. That's the worst kind of fan. Stop using 2 frames when there are 30-60 available. Still no still showing the arm tackling the guy.


There are/were bad calls made/missed. Stick to those as examples when you are going to complain.

I don't need to google it but you demonstrate none of it with this post. You don't even argue on merit here. You just go with repeating your original assertion and cowardly try to discredit the still with derision.

You claim that the arm just slid by and there was no force. The still clearly demonstrates his shoulder being pulled back. You are wrong demonstrably.

 

[Kevinicus]

This is so full of it. He let go sure but you cannot wrap your arms around a defender like that. I guess you think he was just hugging him lightly?

Maybe you should watch the video too. At the snap the lineman jammed Irving inside with his left hand. Irving pushed through it and the OL spun around. As he spins around his arm which was inside on Irving spins with him and slides off of Irving. It's physics. You can't HOLD a lineman with your arm like that. He did not hold him as his arm spun and slid off with him.

And even if he did hold him, he didn't tackle him.

 

[Kevinicus]

I don't need to google it but you demonstrate none of it with this post. You don't even argue on merit here. You just go with repeating your original assertion and cowardly try to discredit the still with derision.

You claim that the arm just slid by and there was no force. The still clearly demonstrates his shoulder being pulled back. You are wrong demonstrably.

Video >>>> still. The merit of the video >>> the merit of the still.

Those arguing based on the still are arguing without merit.

 

[TNCowboy]

So the position of some of you, including Sturm, is that it's a marginal call, because the OG held Irving, but let him go quickly, so the center could then hold Irving?

Holding someone but letting them go quickly is still a hold. Both guys held Irving and the garbage official refused to throw the flag. Don't really get why anyone is still arguing about that.

 

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

I'm a major Marinelli supporter and want him back, but this game plan was inexcusable

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Video >>>> still. The merit of the video >>> the merit of the still.

Those arguing based on the still are arguing without merit.

The video shows his shoulder being drawn back too or do you think he stood up like that and bent backwards because Marinelli teaches that?

They are both evidence as much as you would like to just blanket dismiss.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Maybe you should watch the video too. At the snap the lineman jammed Irving inside with his left hand. Irving pushed through it and the OL spun around. As he spins around his arm which was inside on Irving spins with him and slides off of Irving. It's physics. You can't HOLD a lineman with your arm like that. He did not hold him as his arm spun and slid off with him.

And even if he did hold him, he didn't tackle him.

You cannot hold a linemen by wrapping your arm around him and grabbing his shoulder pad? It's to the point now where I am laughing at you.

Youre right that Irvin blew past him and turned the OL. That is how a DL wins. You don't know much about football it would seem. You do realize that OL grab onto the shoulderpad to hold on regularly. It's not a problem unless you lose and get turned which is what happened.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Rodgers consistently made throws in this game that probably only one QB in NFL history is physically capable of, particularly on the move. No coverage was going to beat him on this day unless you had elite talent across the entire secondary. The only way to overcome this type of juggernaut is relentless pressure, which our DL isn't really equipped to provide.

 

[Doomsay]

A still frame does not indicate force. The arm slid around Irving as he went by.

It doesn't show a tackle either, which is what he said. Not hard at all.

Sounds like you are describing a dance move, compelling stuff.