Sturm says Dak most valuable pick in NFL history

[CWR]

Stat wise, Dak is superior.
Dan Marino - Ben Roethlisburger - Dak Prescott
11 games - 58.4 comp. 2210 yards 20 tds 6 ints
13 games - 66.4 comp - 2621 yards 17 tds 11 ints
12 games - 67.9 comp - 2974 yards 19 tds 2 ints

Who's having the best year as a rookie?

Thank you! Those guys also were not 4th round picks.

 

[ufcrules1]

Easy.. I want to see more... This greatest season ever business could be his only great season. The NFL is littered with one-hit wonders and flashes in the pan. Julius Jones anyone? lol IJS, I'm going to enjoy the mess out of this season. As a fan, I know they don't come around that often.

As for Dak... I'll be expecting to see him do it again.. next year....and then the next year.. and then... you get my drift.

I get your drift but Dak is no flash in the pan Qb.
I guess it just takes longer for some of us to realize that than others.

 

[WoodysGirl]

I get your drift but Dak is no flash in the pan Qb.
I guess it just takes longer for some of us to realize that than others.

You're right. I've never been one to just buy in right away and it doesn't matter who the player is. But best believe, I'm always supportive and want nothing, but the best for that player.

You were never a big Romo fan, but I remember when Romo first came on the scene. All of the Dak love ranks right up there with Romomania, Moxie, and any other thing that came out back then. Eventually, the mania settled down, and Romo did too as the main guy. I want that for Dak too, except with more team success.

 

[Elusive6thRing]

If you're talking about just rookie seasons of draft picks I'd probably agree. But if you expand beyond that Brady was a 6th round pick, Joe Montana was a late 3rd round pick. I wouldn't put him amongst those names quite yet.

 

[ufcrules1]

You're right. I've never been one to just buy in right away and it doesn't matter who the player is. But best believe, I'm always supportive and want nothing, but the best for that player.

You were never a big Romo fan, but I remember when Romo first came on the scene. All of the Dak love ranks right up there with Romomania, Moxie, and any other thing that came out back then. Eventually, the mania settled down, and Romo did too as the main guy. I want that for Dak too, except with more team success.

I was actually a fan if Romo until I realized he was a QB who refused to learn from his mistakes and was far from being a leader.

It's early but Dak looks like a leader right out of the gate. I'm buying into him. You don't look THAT good unless you are. Leading your team to 11-1(should be 12-0) as a rookie? This dude is the real deal.

I know you are supportive and want nothing but the best for Dak. I would never question your fandom for the Cowboys. You are here everyday.

 

[Doomsdayblitz]

Brother. Wait until Prescott takes this team to 6-7 SBs, & wins most of them, & is a first ballot HOFer. Even then, Dak was taken two rounds ahead of Brady, so I don't think you can EVER make that comparison.

 

[DFWJC]

the statement was that brady was a more valuable pick because he was a 6th rounder who won the super bowl. but brady can't take credit for that *as a rookie.* sturm's comment was about a draft pick's impact during his rookie season. that is all.

any comparison of what dak has done in 12 games to what other QBs have done in 12 years and more is absurd.

I tend to think you have the absurd part turned around.
He said he was the most valuable pick based on where he chosen in NFL history.
All that based on 12 games. Yes, in his rookie year.
I disagree.
If you dont, Im happy for you, Sam.

 

[CWR]

Is this an actual Cowboys message board? For the love of all that is good and holly Dak has been a god send and we are very lucky to have him. I honestly can not understand the mentality some of yall have here. Its ok to celebrate what hes doing. You dont have to wait until hes in the hall of fame to appreciate. The point being made is no other late round rookie qb has done this well. Is it too much to simply embrace that? I swear if we won the superbowl there'd still be a faction on this board crying "no way we win it next year."

 

[CWR]

He said he was the most valuable pick based on where he chosen in NFL history.
I disagree.
If you dont, Im happy for you, Sam.

Cmon man do you actually think Sturm was trying to say Dak is more valuable than Brady? Seriously? I think its pretty clear he ment as a rookie contributor. If not he should be fired, immediately.

 

[percyhoward]

Not in his rookie year. Stats prove it.

Rookie season
Marino 96.0
Prescott 108.6

Rookie season, adjusted for era
Marino 113.9
Prescott 108.6

The passer rating for the league in 1983 was 73.1, compared to 89.0 now.

If my sig were adjusted for era, it would show Marino with 9 games above a 100 rating in his rookie season instead of 6. Interestingly, Marino played large parts of 2 of the first 5 games, but didn't start until week 6 of his rookie season. Then he suffered a knee injury in the 14th game and didn't play the last two games.

 

[DFWJC]

Cmon man do you actually think Sturm was trying to say Dak is more valuable than Brady? Seriously? I think its pretty clear he ment as a rookie contributor. If not he should be fired, immediately.

He was saying it was the most valuable pick based on where he was taken and compared to how the team did the previous year. It is exactly what he said.

Because Brady didnt start his rookie year, Im assuminghe felt he was disqualified. Or else he honest.y just overlooked that Brady was picked so late. One or the other.

Just taking him for his word.
Read what he said.

 

[pansophy]

I get your drift but Dak is no flash in the pan Qb.
I guess it just takes longer for some of us to realize that than others.

People said that about RG3 and Nick Foles too. Washington learned their lesson so well that they made Cousins play under the tag to make sure he could repeat his performance.

Say the O-line isn't the same next year - pick a reason - is Dak a guy that still play at a high level? Of course stats would drop in less than ideal conditions, but is he fundamentally the same guy? His footwork still isn't there and other things that could cause him to falter.

So if you want to say he has had the best rookie year ever I'm mostly okay with that, but no way is there enough data to say that he is the most valuable draft pick of all time.

 

[DandyDon52]

I'm generally a fan of Sturm's work, but that's preposterously silly at this stage.

6th rounder Brady has gone to how many Super Bowls?

No denying Dak in the 4th is a home-run though.

brady didnt set the records, and have the stats and QB ratings dak has right now.
The season isnt over, so we just have to wait and see how it ends up.

Brady had a good offense, and a very good defense to help him get to and win that first SB.
So it is too early to say best ever, but he would be 2nd to only brady who most see as the best ever .

Brady wasnt that good back then, but he made good decisions, and found a way to win, and kept cool
at end of games, very similar to Dak.

 

[TimHortons]

I'd probably pick the 6th rounder who's got 4 rings and the most wins by a QB ever.

 

[bodi]

LOL

 

[Silver N Blue]

I was surprised to see this from Sturm, but here it is:

"Based on the position of the pick and the team's distance from the playoffs without the pick, the value of Dak Prescott's selection and subsequent success is perhaps the best value for any franchise and any year since the draft started.

In other words, bonita fish are big and Dak Prescott is your answer. What he is doing is upsetting the apple cart for the entire history of football. There are probably no real comparisons. Either rookie QBs have limited success or they were taken at the top of the draft and still had limited success. This is absurdly unprecedented."

http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...ekly-mailbag-sorts-playoff-scenarios-concerns

Over Tom Brady? Give me a break...Sturm has gone nuts...

 

[TNCowboy]

Foolish comment in any context by Sturm. Tom Brady was a 6th rounder and arguably the greatest QB of all time.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Over Tom Brady? Give me a break...Sturm has gone nuts...

That's not what Sturm posted.

He's combining the factors of Dak's play during his rookie season and his draft position (4th).

Brady barely played his rookie season.

So yeah, within that context Sturm does have a leg to stand on.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Foolish comment in any context by Sturm. Tom Brady was a 6th rounder and arguably the greatest QB of all time.

Again...

That's not what Sturm posted.

He's combining the factors of Dak's play during his rookie season and his draft position (4th).

Brady barely played his rookie season.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

There needs to be a "Reading Comprehension Zone".