Sullivan: Jaylon wearing Richie brace not AFO

[Trouty]

@Trouty where'd you get a hand grenade?

I have my ways, man

 

[jobberone]

Two of you better chill!

 

[Trouty]

Two of you better chill!

Sorry, Jobber, was legitimately just having fun. Not trying to stir the pot. Will heed your warning, Doc.

 

[jobberone]

If the Cowboys had a past player with drop-foot, we would likely know about it.

Richie is a brand. The only experts in regards to the brand names for their products is the company itself.

That is not entirely factual. These docs and trainers are very familiar with appliances and often know more than the reps.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Yes I did. It is interesting where you show no proof of your assertions and when called on it avoid specifics. I guess we do need to go over specifics.

The pic was from a Cowboys practice. He left the team in January and did not return until late May. It is what it is.

Um, no you didn't.

This is your classic charade game where you claim I didn't provide something when in fact I did, you simply ignored it and repeated the claim.

Folks also should note your latest pivot. There is thread after thread of you claiming Jaylon not needing to wear a brace AT ALL. Now, that conclusive evidence has demonstrated your claims were completely ignorant and baseless, in true irony we now see you trying to argue what type of brace he is actually wearing.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Um, no you didn't.

This is your classic charade game where you claim I didn't provide something when in fact I did, you simply ignored it and repeated the claim.

Folks also should note your latest pivot. There is thread after thread of you claiming Jaylon not needing to wear a brace AT ALL. Now, that conclusive evidence has demonstrated your claims were completely ignorant and baseless, in true irony we now see you trying to argue what type of brace he is actually wearing.

You: You claim that he did not need to wear a AFO.
Me: Wrong. I said that there was no proof of one at that time. Nuance is hard for you.
You: I showed him wearing a semi-rigid AFO. You never acknowledged it.
Me: I acknowledged it but it was a pic from November.
You: You lie. I showed several pics.
Me: It was one and he was with the team. Do we need to go over the team schedule again? And if you had more to show from the Spring it would have been big news. There was nothing.
You: I showed several pics. You lie.
Me: I guess we need to go over the schedule again. The pic in question was from DC.com and their practice montages. He left the team with his teammates in January. Again you have no proof of any of this.
You: You lie. You said he did not wear a brace.

So you can go back to my first line.

 

[LocimusPrime]

http://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/201...ett-dr-daniel-cooper-mike-and-mike-interview/

Oh and the Richie brace is an afo per its inventor- just passing on info

 

[risco]

As I've said back in April, his moving about with the injured leg does not look natural. There seems to be an unnatural pull due to a delay- just a little. But by now I'd hoped he'd have been past that.

 

[xwalker]

That is not entirely factual. These docs and trainers are very familiar with appliances and often know more than the reps.

I'm referring to the people that designed the device, not their sales force. A rep is just a a salesperson that might have started yesterday and be trying to sell something tomorrow.

It seems to be a common name vs proper name issue.

People in Texas often say they are going to get a "Coke" when in reality they mean any Soft Drink.

Britt Brown is likely accustomed to an AFO being a specific type of device (likely a non-hinged device). He therefore does not think of a hinged device as the same as the device he is accustomed to calling an AFO.

Regardless, it apoears that the manufacturer, Richie, does indeed consider the device that Jaylon is using as a type of AFO.

AFO appears to be a name for a class of devices. It appears that all devices used for drop-foot problems would be within that classification of device.

People that design these devices spend all day, everyday doing it. Britt Brown likely spends a fraction of his time involved with these devices and before Jaylon was here that fraction was likely near zero.

It's like a mechanic vs the Engineers that designed a specific car engine. The mechanic can't know more than the designers.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Not what we had in mind but with the latest news/update, I'm fine with him possibly being a spot player in '17 with it looking more and more likely he'll be 100% in '18. Assuming this '17 draft class is even just solid, we should be in position to not have to pinpoint any position early in next year's draft. TE is the only possibly as it stands now.

 

[diefree666]

I'm referring to the people that designed the device, not their sales force. A rep is just a a salesperson that might have started yesterday and be trying to sell something tomorrow.

It seems to be a common name vs proper name issue.

People in Texas often say they are going to get a "Coke" when in reality they mean any Soft Drink.

Britt Brown is likely accustomed to an AFO being a specific type of device (likely a non-hinged device). He therefore does not think of a hinged device as the same as the device he is accustomed to calling an AFO.

Regardless, it apoears that the manufacturer, Richie, does indeed consider the device that Jaylon is using as a type of AFO.

AFO appears to be a name for a class of devices. It appears that all devices used for drop-foot problems would be within that classification of device.

People that design these devices spend all day, everyday doing it. Britt Brown likely spends a fraction of his time involved with these devices and before Jaylon was here that fraction was likely near zero.

It's like a mechanic vs the Engineers that designed a specific car engine. The mechanic can't know more than the designers.

The mechanic knows when the engineers screw up.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

You: You claim that he did not need to wear a AFO.
Me: Wrong. I said that there was no proof of one at that time. Nuance is hard for you.
You: I showed him wearing a semi-rigid AFO. You never acknowledged it.
Me: I acknowledged it but it was a pic from November.
You: You lie. I showed several pics.
Me: It was one and he was with the team. Do we need to go over the team schedule again? And if you had more to show from the Spring it would have been big news. There was nothing.
You: I showed several pics. You lie.
Me: I guess we need to go over the schedule again. The pic in question was from DC.com and their practice montages. He left the team with his teammates in January. Again you have no proof of any of this.
You: You lie. You said he did not wear a brace.

So you can go back to my first line.

Cute let me try:

You: "You said Jaylon hasn't made progress and that he can't lift his foot."

Me: No, actually here's me saying the exact opposite (post #, date and thread link included).

You: "You said Jaylon hasn't made progress and that he couldn't lift his foot."

Me: Read my previous post. I just gave you proof you're full of it.

You: "You said Jaylon hasn't made progress and that he can't lift his foot."

Me: Read the post and click the link.

You: "You said Jaylon hasn't made progress and that he can't lift his foot."

Me: You're worthless.

You: "Heehaw, heehaw! You can't produce the proof when asked if you!"

 

[Trouty]

Cute let me try:

You: "You said Jaylon hasn't made progress and that he can't lift his foot."

Me: No, actually here's me saying the exact opposite (post #, date and thread link included).

You: "You said Jaylon hasn't made progress and that he couldn't lift his foot."

Me: Read my previous post. I just gave you proof you're full of it.

You: "You said Jaylon hasn't made progress and that he can't lift his foot."

Me: Read the post and click the link.

You: "You said Jaylon hasn't made progress and that he can't lift his foot."

Me: You're worthless.

You: "Heehaw, heehaw! You can't produce the proof when asked if you!"

Lmao!!! Cal, you're taking no prisoners!

Hey, my son and his mom are up in Morro Bay right now

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Cute let me try:

You: "You said Jaylon hasn't made progress and that he can't lift his foot."

Me: No, actually here's me saying the exact opposite (post #, date and thread link included).

You: "You said Jaylon hasn't made progress and that he couldn't lift his foot."

Me: Read my previous post. I just gave you proof you're full of it.

You: "You said Jaylon hasn't made progress and that he can't lift his foot."

Me: Read the post and click the link.

You: "You said Jaylon hasn't made progress and that he can't lift his foot."

Me: You're worthless.

You: "Heehaw, heehaw! You can't produce the proof when asked if you!"

You sure like moving the goalposts. My narrative was about what we were talking about now.

You are still butthurt over something from 3 months ago apparently. It's not my fault that you quoted Chao and Fisher saying he had made no progress. You like to have it both ways that way you are never wrong.

Where am I saying Jaylon for sure was not wearing a brace? Where are the pics from the Spring, cal?

 

[xwalker]

The mechanic knows when the engineers screw up.

Yes, that's what the mechanic tells himself and his buddies.

Them thar co-LEEGE boi's done screwed up.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm referring to the people that designed the device, not their sales force. A rep is just a a salesperson that might have started yesterday and be trying to sell something tomorrow.

It seems to be a common name vs proper name issue.

People in Texas often say they are going to get a "Coke" when in reality they mean any Soft Drink.

Britt Brown is likely accustomed to an AFO being a specific type of device (likely a non-hinged device). He therefore does not think of a hinged device as the same as the device he is accustomed to calling an AFO.

Regardless, it apoears that the manufacturer, Richie, does indeed consider the device that Jaylon is using as a type of AFO.

AFO appears to be a name for a class of devices. It appears that all devices used for drop-foot problems would be within that classification of device.

People that design these devices spend all day, everyday doing it. Britt Brown likely spends a fraction of his time involved with these devices and before Jaylon was here that fraction was likely near zero.

It's like a mechanic vs the Engineers that designed a specific car engine. The mechanic can't know more than the designers.

You don't get to speak for Brown, his dialect, or jargon.

It's like a random internet poster vs rehab specialist.

Brown expert not xwalker.

 

[xwalker]

You don't get to speak for Brown, his dialect, or jargon.

It's like a random internet poster vs rehab specialist.

Brown expert not xwalker.

It's a message board. I can do whatever I want as long as it's within the rules of the message board. You don't make the rules here.

It's too difficult of a concept for you, but if Jaylon still has a device that helps him with drop-foot, it's by definition something that fits into the generic category of AFO.

This comes from an article, not a video or audio recording. Britt Brown my not have even said it the way that it was reported in the article.

FYI, John Wayne >> Denzel Washington.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's a message board. I can do whatever I want as long as it's within the rules of the message board. You don't make the rules here.

It's too difficult of a concept for you, but if Jaylon still has a device that helps him with drop-foot, it's by definition something that fits into the generic category of AFO.

This comes from an article, not a video or audio recording. Britt Brown my not have even said it the way that it was reported in the article.

FYI, John Wayne >> Denzel Washington.

It's a direct quote. Xwalker may not have any basis at all whatsoever for his claims.

And you have no credibility to speak for those things. We get that you like to front anyway but that is besides the point.

Your assumptions and speculations are mighty convenient.

Denzel Washington objectively has more Academy Awards than Wayne. That is what the experts as to film actors think. I personally see Washington as a limited actor who really plays only 3 different characters. Waynes problem is he was worse with only 1. You are of course entitled to your opinion. You have no basis for it though.

 

[tm1119]

Still can't believe we didn't bring in a better LB than Durant. Especially now with Wilson almost a guarantee to get suspended at some point. I have no idea if Jaylon will play or at what level, but there almost HAS to be a certain level of doubt and it the front office hasn't really done anything to back that doubt up. Hitch is a valuable backup with versatility, but I really don't want to see him playing MIKE on a full time basis for long stretches.

 

[xwalker]

It's a direct quote. Xwalker may not have any basis at all whatsoever for his claims.

And you have no credibility to speak for those things. We get that you like to front anyway but that is besides the point.

Your assumptions and speculations are mighty convenient.

.

These are not assumptions or speculation.

The company that makes the device says it's and AFO.

I'm a fan of John Wayne because in at least one of this roles he was in Law Enforcement. I believe that Law Enforcement officers are the greatest Americans.