Sullivan: Jaylon wearing Richie brace not AFO

[diefree666]

oh please DIE FREEZE - I am not

BET YOU HE WILL NEVER PLAY IN ACTUAL MEAHNINGFUL GAME AN WILL LMAO WHEN HE DOES NOT - LISTEN TO ALL YOU GUYS JUST WISHING ON A STAR - HE CAN ACTUALLY LIFT HIS PNKY RIGHT NOE

Smith continues to wear a brace on his left leg for foot drop. The linebacker can take part in the Cowboys' rookie minicamp this weekend because he missed all of last season while rehabbing. However, Garrett said Smith will likely only participate in meetings and walk-throughs.

"He's going to do the veteran stuff on the field on Tuesday and Thursday, so I don't anticipate him doing a lot on the field over the weekend," Garrett said. "But he'll go through the meetings and the walk-throughs (during the three-day minicamp)."


would make a nice door stop tho

a VERY small person

 

[bodi]

a VERY small person

ah just being realistic

Will he keep up that routine at camp? Will he be able to take part in team drills in addition to individual drills? With pads, some level of contact and the day-in, day-out nature of camp, Smith's current situation will become better understood. Whatever happens, it will be hyper-analyzed.


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Good news: no more knee brace & walking.
Bad news: wearing an AFO, indicates nerve issue.
Too bad.

 

[bodi]

a VERY small person

opps

More news on Jaylon Smith per source. Recent tests show increased nerve regeneration. If continues, could see full return in the 6-9 months

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

You showed one pic from November of 2016 where he was wearing the streamlined one. I gave you credit for it. The issue was that AFO went all the way up the calf and the tape jobs in question that Spring stopped right above the ankle.

He was not wearing that brace in the Spring pictures else we could see it under the knee. We did not. There were no pics from April May with him wearing that semi-rigid AFO. You are making that up.

And you are not the arbiter of the past. your recollections are conveniently obtuse of my responses.

There's nothing else to say but you're full of it.

That picture (of the streamlined AFO) was from this year not (~April/May) not November 2016 (you simply pulled that out your rear).

 

[Sydla]

ah just being realistic

Will he keep up that routine at camp? Will he be able to take part in team drills in addition to individual drills? With pads, some level of contact and the day-in, day-out nature of camp, Smith's current situation will become better understood. Whatever happens, it will be hyper-analyzed.


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David J. Chao, MD Retweeted Jaylon Smith

#JaylonSmith
Good news: no more knee brace & walking.
Bad news: wearing an AFO, indicates nerve issue.
Too bad.

LOL. Dr. Chao.

 

[Sydla]

opps

More news on Jaylon Smith per source. Recent tests show increased nerve regeneration. If continues, could see full return in the 6-9 months

You realize these updates hurt your cause, right?

 

[xwalker]

Not an AFO? The manufacturer of the Richie Brace begs to differ.

From their site (www.richiebrace.com/index.php/products/the-richie-dynamic-assist-brace.html)

THE RICHIE DYNAMIC ASSIST BRACE

"A dorsiflexion-assist AFO for Dropfoot* Conditions"


DESCRIPTION:

The Richie Dynamic Assist Brace is a custom articulated ankle-foot-orthosis with two spring-like hinges, medial and lateral, to provide up to 15 degrees of dorsoflexion of the foot at the ankle joint during the swing phase of gait.

Yes, it's just semantics of what Britt Brown calls an AFO or not AFO. In the general big picture, anything that performs that function is an AFO but obviously there a multitude of ways to make one.

 

[xwalker]

I believe that was a recent report from Eatman. There have been a lot of red flags being brought up by local beat writers and insiders lately, but everyone keeps ignoring that because they want to out-"RAH RAH" each other.

This is why I keep saying to wait and see, or everyone is going to be sorely disappointed.

The good news for fans is that Broaddus, Eatman and crew have historically been wrong way more often than not about players at this time of year.

Every year there is at least one player that Broaddus/Eatman claim is either great or terrible and when the preseason games let us actually see them, it's obvious they were wrong. Comically wrong.

A couple of comical moments that stand out:

Broaddus: 2014, training camp before the 1st preseason game. Darrion Weems looks great and will be the backup Swing Tackle and likely future RT. Parnell terrible and will be cut.

Reality: Weems active 1 game for Cowboys afterwards out of the NFL. Parnell get 32 million contract.


Eatman: Blue White scrimmage, approximately 2012 or 2013. Calling out players by name but didn't know that he had a 3 years old roster. Calling the RB wearing #35 Keon Lattimore who had been off the team for 3 years at the time. Many other players called out that were not on the team.

 

[Sydla]

The good news for fans is that Broaddus, Eatman and crew have historically been wrong way more often than not about players at this time of year.

Every year there is at least one player that Broaddus/Eatman claim is either great or terrible and when the preseason games let us actually see them, it's obvious they were wrong. Comically wrong.

A couple of comical moments that stand out:

Broaddus: 2014, training camp before the 1st preseason game. Darrion Weems looks great and will be the backup Swing Tackle and likely future RT. Parnell terrible and will be cut.

Reality: Weems active 1 game for Cowboys afterwards out of the NFL. Parnell get 32 million contract.


Eatman: Blue White scrimmage, approximately 2012 or 2013. Calling out players by name but didn't know that he had a 3 years old roster. Calling the RB wearing #35 Keon Lattimore who had been off the team for 3 years at the time. Many other players called out that were not on the team.

In this case, Eatman was actually talking like he believed Smith would play but that the Cowboy would bring him around slowly. To use Eatman's comment as support for bodi's claim that Smith will never play a game was bizarre, but hilarious.

 

[xwalker]

In this case, Eatman was actually talking like he believed Smith would play but that the Cowboy would bring him around slowly. To use Eatman's comment as support for bodi's claim that Smith will never play a game was bizarre, but hilarious.

Since Eatman said they would bring him along slowly, that probably means Jaylon starts the 1st preseason game and the 1st regular season game.

 

[bodi]

You realize these updates hurt your cause, right?

I still bet we never see him in a meaning full game

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

There's nothing else to say but you're full of it.

That picture (of the streamlined AFO) was from this year not (~April/May) not November 2016 (you simply pulled that out your rear).

He was with the team practicing in the pic. Shall we go over the team's schedule and when he returned to practice last season once again?

I actually searched for the pic on Dallas Cowboys.com and pulled it from the mothership's weekly practice montages. Gave you credit for it too.

I rubbed the more recent pics in your face pointing out that the brace which nearly went up to the knee was not apparent. But if you can show a pic from the spring showing a brace that would be interesting. It also would have been huge news yet did not happen.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yes, it's just semantics of what Britt Brown calls an AFO or not AFO. In the general big picture, anything that performs that function is an AFO but obviously there a multitude of ways to make one.

Yeah cause what does a trainer with decades of experience plus the contacts to go with it know? We should assume he made a mistake and the great xwalker is right anyway.

 

[xwalker]

Yeah cause what does a trainer with decades of experience plus the contacts to go with it know? We should assume he made a mistake and the great xwalker is right anyway.

I think I made an entire thread awhile back about how some people couldn't see the big picture or deal with general concepts, but could only comprehend specifics.

I would say "Can't see the forest for the trees" but you would only understand that statement if I identified the exact type of tree, it's height and width, where the observer was relative to the forest and the trees, the temperature that day, the moisture content in the soil, the observers eyesight in terms of was he wearing glasses or contact lenses, what was the age of the observer, his nationality, skin color, his preference in food and movies, the observers education level, does he also believe that Martin Lawrence is the greatest actor ever, etc.. Whoops, etc.. is probably not specific enough.

Example of someone that obsesses on details and can't comprehend a generalization:

Forest Ranger: There's a Bear, run.

Non-Generalist: Could you give me the GPS coordinates.

Forest Ranger: He's over there (points). You need to run this way (points).

Non-Generalist: I can't run without the coordinates. You must give me the coordinates of the Bear, our current location and all of the exit points.

Forest Ranger: I'm outta here.

Non-Generalist: I will need your badge number and your bosses name and phone number. I'm going to report that you did not provide me with GPS coordinates.

Bear: Rarr.

Non-Generalist: I'll need you to state your intentions. I also need to know the size of your claws and teeth in case you bite me, then you can be identified later.

Bear: Yum.

 

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

Every one of us on this board can flex our toes. None of us can shed NFL blocks. This isn't a package deal. If this is the bar we're setting, we're all in for a major disappointment when the pads come on.

Lies I could shed Free and I weigh 165

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

The good news for fans is that Broaddus, Eatman and crew have historically been wrong way more often than not about players at this time of year.

Every year there is at least one player that Broaddus/Eatman claim is either great or terrible and when the preseason games let us actually see them, it's obvious they were wrong. Comically wrong.

A couple of comical moments that stand out:

Broaddus: 2014, training camp before the 1st preseason game. Darrion Weems looks great and will be the backup Swing Tackle and likely future RT. Parnell terrible and will be cut.

Reality: Weems active 1 game for Cowboys afterwards out of the NFL. Parnell get 32 million contract.


Eatman: Blue White scrimmage, approximately 2012 or 2013. Calling out players by name but didn't know that he had a 3 years old roster. Calling the RB wearing #35 Keon Lattimore who had been off the team for 3 years at the time. Many other players called out that were not on the team.

To be fair, when a guy is getting paid to give an opinion and he must give one as part of his job hundreds of times over the course of a few years, that guy will inevitably be wrong on multiple occasions. Not to excuse Eatman not even knowing who is on the team.

 

[xwalker]

To be fair, when a guy is getting paid to give an opinion and he must give one as part of his job hundreds of times over the course of a few years, that guy will inevitably be wrong on multiple occasions. Not to excuse Eatman not even knowing who is on the team.

Sure, I get that will a lot of media types, but Broaddus says things just to try to prove himself to be correct. The Weems thing was based on him predicting a year or so earlier that Weems would be good, which was OK. But then the first week of training camp before we can see the players, he tries to prove himself to be correct, but then just a couple of weeks later it was obvious to anyone that Weems was not that good. He does the same thing basically every year, but it's usually with drafted players. Any player that he liked in the draft is having the best training camp in history while any player he didn't like is probably going to be cut this week.

Eatman is just a dummy. Anybody on CZ would have known that he was calling out the wrong players, but he didn't know and he works there everyday.

 

[GhostOfPelluer]

Sure, I get that will a lot of media types, but Broaddus says things just to try to prove himself to be correct. The Weems thing was based on him predicting a year or so earlier that Weems would be good, which was OK. But then the first week of training camp before we can see the players, he tries to prove himself to be correct, but then just a couple of weeks later it was obvious to anyone that Weems was not that good. He does the same thing basically every year, but it's usually with drafted players. Any player that he liked in the draft is having the best training camp in history while any player he didn't like is probably going to be cut this week.

Eatman is just a dummy. Anybody on CZ would have known that he was calling out the wrong players, but he didn't know and he works there everyday.

I don't doubt that Broaddus hammers home points to try to prove his initial prediction - regardless of the evidence to the contrary. I've seen it. He's also been right at times, too. You have to take every person who gives an opinion with a grain of salt.

I don't fault people who were skeptical of Jaylon ever recovering, it's not like there is much precedent set with his type of injury and recovery. I've not been unbiased with Jaylon myself from the beginning because he's such a good dude and I've liked him since he played at ND. I'm actively rooting for him. But the news person in me sees the skepticism and can't criticize it.

I think Broaddus' strengths are when he simply breaks down film on a player. He's good at that. When he starts trying to predict and project is when gets out of his element - which is why he's no longer doing it for an actual team.

 

[xwalker]

I don't doubt that Broaddus hammers home points to try to prove his initial prediction - regardless of the evidence to the contrary. I've seen it. He's also been right at times, too. You have to take every person who gives an opinion with a grain of salt.

I don't fault people who were skeptical of Jaylon ever recovering, it's not like there is much precedent set with his type of injury and recovery. I've not been unbiased with Jaylon myself from the beginning because he's such a good dude and I've liked him since he played at ND. I'm actively rooting for him. But the news person in me sees the skepticism and can't criticize it.

I think Broaddus' strengths are when he simply breaks down film on a player. He's good at that. When he starts trying to predict and project is when gets out of his element - which is why he's no longer doing it for an actual team.

 

[Screw The Hall]

Sure, I get that will a lot of media types, but Broaddus says things just to try to prove himself to be correct. The Weems thing was based on him predicting a year or so earlier that Weems would be good, which was OK. But then the first week of training camp before we can see the players, he tries to prove himself to be correct, but then just a couple of weeks later it was obvious to anyone that Weems was not that good. He does the same thing basically every year, but it's usually with drafted players. Any player that he liked in the draft is having the best training camp in history while any player he didn't like is probably going to be cut this week.

Eatman is just a dummy. Anybody on CZ would have known that he was calling out the wrong players, but he didn't know and he works there everyday.

It's an ole' Billy Packer ploy. I'm a huge college BB fan, and the late Billy Packer was vastly overrated by most. He would routinely make his pregame analysis including what the keys for each team winning were in his estimation, then he would spend the rest of the game framing the action to match his pregame commentary perfectly. It drove me absolutely bonkers. To make it worse his broadcasting partner would almost always slobber all over him rejoicing at what a genius he was ... Broaddus does this ad nauseam.