Suppose we do take Shadeur Sanders?

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It's about trying to figure out, if we go Shadeur, which scenarios would be best. To me, it might make sense to either go Sanders and wait until 2027 to start him, or maybe go QB in 2026 to start at in 2027 using Dak's contract the way it is to our benefit.
No! One year removed from 3 consecutive 12 win seasons and after paying your QB 240m, you don’t draft a QB in the top 10, especially and much less to have them sit for 2 or 3 or 4 seasons. The concept is silly and absurd.
Fix the running game and middle of the defense and this offense is back in the top 5 and the team is back to 3 consecutive playoff runs. It’s really that simple!
 

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No! One year removed from 3 consecutive 12 win seasons and after paying your QB 240m, you don’t draft a QB in the top 10, especially and much less to have them sit for 2 or 3 or 4 seasons. The concept is silly and absurd.
Fix the running game and middle of the defense and this offense is back in the top 5 and the team is back to 3 consecutive playoff runs. It’s really that simple!

So, why can't we do both? That's kinda why I'd prefer to get Jeanty. My initial plan was to get Jeanty, Walker, and a guard this year. However, if we go QB like Sanders, then this thread was written to explore the best ways to go around it.
 

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To be honest Jerry directed the 25 draft when he Re signed Dak . Too many holes on defense for this franchise to pick a clip board carrier in 25 . Already blew on 4 on that clerical position .
 

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Why would Dallas do that? Jerry is not going to sit Dak when paying him $60MM per year; and with Dak’s poor performance this season, along with surgeries for his ankle and now his hamstring, his market value is not commensurate with his contract.
I think we have also seen that college talent doesn’t always translate to the NFL; the landscape is littered with QBs who couldn’t cut it in the NFL that were great in college.

Because this doesn’t make sense…Jerry would be more likely to do this…I’m sure he is thinking of the marketing buzz it would create.
 

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Why would Dallas do that? Jerry is not going to sit Dak when paying him $60MM per year; and with Dak’s poor performance this season, along with surgeries for his ankle and now his hamstring, his market value is not commensurate with his contract.
I think we have also seen that college talent doesn’t always translate to the NFL; the landscape is littered with QBs who couldn’t cut it in the NFL that were great in college.

Because this doesn’t make sense…Jerry would be more likely to do this…I’m sure he is thinking of the marketing buzz it would create.

He wouldn't be sitting Dak. If we go with either scenario, Dak plays, Shadeur sits at least for 2025 and maybe 2026. When he's ready, then Dak gets June 1 cut and Shadeur takes over. I would prefer Jeanty this year and a QB in 2026, but this is just to explore how it would work if we got Shadeur. In no way though is he staying in 2025.
 

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He wouldn't be sitting Dak. If we go with either scenario, Dak plays, Shadeur sits at least for 2025 and maybe 2026. When he's ready, then Dak gets June 1 cut and Shadeur takes over. I would prefer Jeanty this year and a QB in 2026, but this is just to explore how it would work if we got Shadeur. In no way though is he staying in 2025.
If only Jerry was that strategic…
 

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He wouldn't be sitting Dak. If we go with either scenario, Dak plays, Shadeur sits at least for 2025 and maybe 2026. When he's ready, then Dak gets June 1 cut and Shadeur takes over. I would prefer Jeanty this year and a QB in 2026, but this is just to explore how it would work if we got Shadeur. In no way though is he staying in 2025.
First and foremost no way Shadeur sits for 2years.
No way Dak survives injury-free free the 2 years heck he won't survive 2025.
If daddy Deion is the coach expect his son to follow and start ASAP.
Dak is DONE one way or another.
Eyes do you have them?
Brains are they in working order?
People this guy got his money and is done with football.
He wont mind at all sitting on the bench and still unfortunately sweating.
 

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They'd only draft this guy to be the star of the circus. Especially if they can land Deon back here as coach. Could you imagine it'd be like the Superbowl size audience watching.
 

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Shadeur ain’t coming here first off. Second off he is far from a can’t miss prospect imo. His tools are his head and his accuracy, everything else is pretty average At best.
 

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Dak has a cap hit of over $100 million if traded next year. I just don't see any way they draft a QB unless Jerry is willing to go through another season like this one.
Not early, agree mazes ZERO sense too many holes to fil and daks here 3 more years, maybe 2 but maybe a 4th-5th rounder with upside similar to how they viewed dak and get rid of Rush and or lance if this bad play continued. We have the rest of long season left for playing many players as interviews to whom, stays or goes next year..they are all ON Notice..If lance shocks us toward the end of the year maybe we elevate him to 2..
 

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So, why can't we do both? That's kinda why I'd prefer to get Jeanty. My initial plan was to get Jeanty, Walker, and a guard this year. However, if we go QB like Sanders, then this thread was written to explore the best ways to go around it.
Here's my take on that Jeanty sounds great but even BIjan Robinson having some growing pains, he's not what they thought and I'm a Longhorn fan,

so you gotta be careful up that high picking a running back however think of this I feel like this scenario if we pass up on Jeanty and we pick up Travis hunter if he's still there or a guy like him ie a top WR/Pass rush/DT?.

I wouldn't say can't miss but get get you a better position that you utilize better that warrants picking somebody that high,

like passing on Ezekiel Elliott for Ramsey and then in the second round because I heard this is a very deep draft for running backs, you can get your running back in the second round, very much like we could have got Henry... so this year we could get Travis hunter and the next best running back in the second round, even though we lucked out and we got Ezekiel Elliott and Prescott and ends up Prescott in the fourth round was steal,

so you could just flip their effect on the draft it doesn't matter because they both worked out.. think that might be smarter play given we have hindsight in history with zeke/Ramsey and not getting henry, do it differently this time.. but i wouldn't be made Jeanty at 8-12 but rather not.
 

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love love jeanty but i'm not taking him in the first even though he deserves to be. with such a deep rb class i'm taking wr/DT/ol and going rb in 2nd or 3rd.

and no to the circus of either sanders as qb or coach. can't wait to see this board explode when he walks off the field while losing with 2 minutes left....
 

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So, why can't we do both? That's kinda why I'd prefer to get Jeanty. My initial plan was to get Jeanty, Walker, and a guard this year. However, if we go QB like Sanders, then this thread was written to explore the best ways to go around it.
Why would someone consider dropping a top 15 pick on a 5’9 RB (assuming that even hasn’t been exaggerated)? There’s 3 DT being projected in the top 15. Get one, get an end… he’ll even a cornerback. You can get a starting caliber RB in both the second and 3rd and a capable backup in the 5th. Again, this team is one year removed from 3 consecutive 12 win seasons. Going to assume this is an outlier season. When the 49ers had an outlier season they didn’t drop the pick 4 a down the road QB. They got Bosa. Go get a Bosa caliber defensive player, preferably front 7 to pair with Parsons. Switch back to the outside zone running scheme with a 2nd/3rd round RB which should an easiest fix team wise. And most importantly, stop focusing so much on the outliers as if it’s been the norm!
 

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Maybe they were seen as a “premiere organization“ in the past. The Cowboys’ own fans don’t see them as premiere now. “Prime” doesn’t strike me as thinking his son should sit and watch an experienced quarterback play while sitting on the bench. As far as Prime coming to Dallas, he says he’s happy where he is.

Jerry claims he’ll do anything to make the Cowboys better, but won’t even close curtains to keep the glare of the sun off the field in his team’s stadium. The NFL is moving in a direction that is leaving Jerry Jones behind. There is nothing Prime or his son can do to change that.
Jerry wouldn't aquire them to win a Championship....he would get them for 4 more years of media attention and hype......and Premiere doesn't always mean the best....it can be the most lucrative..

I don't make these rules....I just observe them
 

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Yeah. I’m out on a top five pick on a RB. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze in today’s league.
Depends on whether or not you hit on the pick. It's risky, but having a Derrick Henry, Saquan Barkley, or Bijan Robinson makes life a lot easier for an offense. But you have to make sure you have the personnel up front to take proper advantage of the RB. This idea that you can just plug in any back is ridiculous. Swap out the backups for Henry and Barkley this season. You think those offenses are at or near the top of the league like they are now?
 
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