Suppose we do take Shadeur Sanders?

[Boysdaboys]

This guy isn't good enough to be demanding where he goes. Nor is he good enough for the circus that would follow.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Draft Shedeur and figure everything else out later.

I agree. The no-trade clause thing can certainly be figured out in time. But i would lean Cam Ward.

 

[Boysdaboys]

Am I the only one that would stay away from Shedeur Sanders? I watch him play now and I do not see what all the noise is about. If he was not Deion's son I don't think he would be anywhere near the top of the QB prospects list.

I will watch him play as much as I can the rest of the year but what I see is an over-hyped product of the media fascination with Deion's family.

Can a Shedeur fan please enlighten me? I am willing to listen.

Completely agree.

I'd be stunned if this guy had a career as good as Dak. For all the hate Dak gets, he was/is a legit starting QB. 3 Pro Bowls. MVP runner-up.

This guy isn't good enough to warrant the circus that would follow.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Nice talking to you it’s refreshing not to be called a idiot, moron, durrrrr durrrrr , you don’t know football, find a new team, have a nice weekend and enjoy the game, remember it’s only a game

Pleasure speaking with you too

 

[maryquality]

I just don't see all the hype with Shedur Sanders....other than being the son of Deion, I don't think he's all that. But, what the heck do I know.

 

[CowboyStar88]

Dude is gonna be a bust in the PRO’s. Guess that’s gonna make him the pick.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

The entire premise of this idea is planning to cut a player you signed to a record breaking 4 year extension (5 years under contract total) after 8 games.

No, you’re not cutting him now, but by planning to draft Shedeur, you’re already planning to cut Prescott in the future. The primary issue with this isn’t eternal infamy, it’s what happened every year of Dak’s previous contract: Jerry stayed competitive by restructuring him. You do not throw away 2025 and 2026 by eating all that cap without fielding a better team, so Jerry is going to restructure Dak 2-3 times on this new deal, which will make cutting him before 2028 all but impossible.

Just because Atlanta did it and they don’t suck doesn’t mean it was a good idea. If they had Rome Odunze, Jared Verse, or Quinyon Mitchell right now they’d be a dramatically better football team.

 

[Hawkeye19]

DO NOT WANT SANDERS.

But this is exactly the kind of “sizzle” JJ loves to make— so I know he will be tempted by the potential headlines and jersey sales lol

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

The entire premise of this idea is planning to cut a player you signed to a record breaking 4 year extension (5 years under contract total) after 8 games.

No, you’re not cutting him now, but by planning to draft Shedeur, you’re already planning to cut Prescott in the future. The primary issue with this isn’t eternal infamy, it’s what happened every year of Dak’s previous contract: Jerry stayed competitive by restructuring him. You do not throw away 2025 and 2026 by eating all that cap without fielding a better team, so Jerry is going to restructure Dak 2-3 times on this new deal, which will make cutting him before 2028 all but impossible.

Just because Atlanta did it and they don’t suck doesn’t mean it was a good idea. If they had Rome Odunze, Jared Verse, or Quinyon Mitchell right now they’d be a dramatically better football team.

Right, and I'd imagine he will probably restructure Dak, so I will adjust my plan accordingly. But, assuming he doesn't restructure Dak, this is what I'd do.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Right, and I'd imagine he will probably restructure Dak, so I will adjust my plan accordingly. But, assuming he doesn't restructure Dak, this is what I'd do.

Even then you’d have to eat Dak’s 90m$ cap hit next year (you read that right), which would be bleeding more talent. With him staying like that on the books, you only have 24m$ in cap space in 2025. Then by June 1sting Dak in 2026, you take a 27m$ cap hit that year and a 34m$ cap hit the year after. If you cut Zack Martin, that’s another 26m$. If you don’t re-sign Tank (which you may not be able to afford), you take a 7m$ hit in dead money. Cutting Terrence Steele would be another 14m$. It’s never just about Dak, it’s how the rest of the team is impacted by Dak’s deal.

Without restructuring him you can’t cut certain players due to their dead money cap hits, which would also make re-signing Micah significantly harder. And if you do cut Dak along with those other players, you’ve got enormous amounts of dead money in 2025, 2026, and 2027. This is cutting off your nose in spite of your face. “Well the Cowboys’ cap is ruined to the point Shedeur can’t possible succeed here, but at least we got rid of Dak” is not the solution to any problem.

 

[irishline]

Go to Spotrac and read the details of his contract. You can't wait for June first. 2026 is fully guaranteed on the 5th league day of 2025. 2027 is fully guaranteed on the 5th league day of 2026. This is stuff that we don't see now because we haven't reached the 5th day of those seasons. His dead cap will go up for those seasons on the 5th day. That's how I'm reading it.

You can release someone with a June 1st designation before June. In fact you can do it the first day of the new season (before the guarantee kicks in). You just can't used any cap savings until aftet June 1st. Not sure if someone answered that, but just in case.

https://decyfrsport.com/nfl-101-post-june-1-designation-explained/#:~:text=What are Post-June 1,dead money over two seasons.

 

[TRUTH87]

DO NOT WANT SANDERS.

But this is exactly the kind of “sizzle” JJ loves to make— so I know he will be tempted by the potential headlines and jersey sales lol

Deion makes sense bc not only are the cowboys bad rn. they're Boring. Prime would change all that. they need that splash to get fans engaged. i don’t think Moore, BB, or any other coach outside of maybe Ben Johnson creates that. m

thing is, i don’t see Deion coming to dallas or wanting his son here. with how Jerry manages this damn team? worst GM in the league. Money would be great but that’s it. i don’t see prime coming here

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Deion makes sense bc not only are the cowboys bad rn. they're Boring. Prime would change all that. they need that splash to get fans engaged. i don’t think Moore, BB, or any other coach outside of maybe Ben Johnson creates that. m

thing is, i don’t see Deion coming to dallas or wanting his son here. with how Jerry manages this damn team? worst GM in the league. Money would be great but that’s it. i don’t see prime coming here

I don’t take Deion for a dishonest or aloof person. When he says he doesn’t want to coach in the NFL because the reason he coaches is to connect with kids and not NFL men playing for checks, believe him.

 

[KingCorcoran]

The Cowboys are still seen as a premiere organization.

If Prime came here with Shadeur, the "ill coached" part of it goes away. But if Prime doesn't come here, he will know who the new coach will be by draft time.

As for the managed part, any decent Cowboys Qb can build his brand and be marketable for many years after they retire regardless of the management.

It doesn't seem right, but it's just the reality of what happens here

Maybe they were seen as a “premiere organization“ in the past. The Cowboys’ own fans don’t see them as premiere now. “Prime” doesn’t strike me as thinking his son should sit and watch an experienced quarterback play while sitting on the bench. As far as Prime coming to Dallas, he says he’s happy where he is.

Jerry claims he’ll do anything to make the Cowboys better, but won’t even close curtains to keep the glare of the sun off the field in his team’s stadium. The NFL is moving in a direction that is leaving Jerry Jones behind. There is nothing Prime or his son can do to change that.

 

[kumizi]

Dak has a cap hit of over $100 million if traded next year. I just don't see any way they draft a QB unless Jerry is willing to go through another season like this one.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Even then you’d have to eat Dak’s 90m$ cap hit next year (you read that right), which would be bleeding more talent. With him staying like that on the books, you only have 24m$ in cap space in 2025. Then by June 1sting Dak in 2026, you take a 27m$ cap hit that year and a 34m$ cap hit the year after. If you cut Zack Martin, that’s another 26m$. If you don’t re-sign Tank (which you may not be able to afford), you take a 7m$ hit in dead money. Cutting Terrence Steele would be another 14m$. It’s never just about Dak, it’s how the rest of the team is impacted by Dak’s deal.

Without restructuring him you can’t cut certain players due to their dead money cap hits, which would also make re-signing Micah significantly harder. And if you do cut Dak along with those other players, you’ve got enormous amounts of dead money in 2025, 2026, and 2027. This is cutting off your nose in spite of your face. “Well the Cowboys’ cap is ruined to the point Shedeur can’t possible succeed here, but at least we got rid of Dak” is not the solution to any problem.

It's not so much about getting rid of Dak just for the sake of doing so. It's about trying to find the most ideal time to get the most cap relief for the least dead hit. Even if we don't go Shadeur, we need to be using the time between now and 2027 to get the team ready for the next QB to be able to succeed.

 

[G2]

No more shiny toys.

 

[diamonddelts]

No more shiny toys.

Only broken ones.

 

[exciter]

Did you even read it and contemplate it?

I read enough to determine it was nonsense and gibberish!

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I read enough to determine it was nonsense and gibberish!

It's about trying to figure out, if we go Shadeur, which scenarios would be best. To me, it might make sense to either go Sanders and wait until 2027 to start him, or maybe go QB in 2026 to start at in 2027 using Dak's contract the way it is to our benefit.