T-New to Pro-Bowl, REALLY!!

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AdamJT13;3247657 said:
Notice that none of our cornerbacks are pressing, and none of our cornerbacks jammed the receiver on those plays.

And like I told you before, it doesn't mean Newman wasn't supposed to. Cover 2 doesn't necessarily mean both sides of the field and the Cowboys know that more than most since they used it when Deion was in town.

The only difference in both plays is Sensanbaugh attempting to disguise the cover 2 against the Vikings, which he didn't against the Chargers.
 

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AdamJT13;3247667 said:
You cannot be serious. Newman is far better on the outside and would be better in the slot than Scandrick is.

Newman, at this stage of his career, would get his lunch money taken if he's put at the slot on a regular basis. He's not as fast as he once was, and quicker receivers would kill him.

There's a reason that our coaches match up Newman -- not Jenkins or Scandrick -- with an opposing receiver, when we use that defensive game plan.

a) match up with whom ?
b) which defensive game plan ?

When the Cowboys played the Eagles, it was Jenkins, virtually, one on one with Maclin for most of the game. Newman was matched with Jackson, always with a safety over the top.

When they played the Saints, Newman was matched up with Colston ( who is the type of receiver he can still match up well with ) while Jenkins was covering Henderson or Meachem on the other side..
 

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Randy White;3247648 said:
2 more:

The San Diego game where he was supposed jam Vincent Jackson, but let's him go, which resulted in a key reception of the game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcO7srR3pS0


And it happened AGAIN, same exact play, only this time is a 47 yards touchdown in the playoffs:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzFGkbUZPqY


It seems like if anybody is on somebody's " nuts ", it's you on Newman's...

lol, I'll give you that catch in the San Diego game.. but he was playing cover 2 in the Minnesota game, Sensabaugh had perfect coverage just made the mistake of not looking for the ball.. not T-New's fault, funny you brought up the San Diego game, Jenks was getting burned all game.. I was there in person and the Chargers WR's had him beat time and time again. Why don't you go buy NFL rewind and watch all 18 games and see how many times teams threw at him my friend. By the way, I said 1 or 2 games meaning there was prolly more than just the Giants game where he and the rest of the secondary stunk. He had a great year, you need to chill
 

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Randy White;3247668 said:
And like I told you before, it doesn't mean Newman wasn't supposed to. Cover 2 doesn't necessarily mean both sides of the field and the Cowboys know that more than most since they used it when Deion was in town.

The only difference in both plays is Sensanbaugh attempting to disguise the cover 2 against the Vikings, which he didn't against the Chargers.

If both corners are not pressing, that is an excellent clue that the D was called for them not to press. I don't get the hate on TN for running the coverage as it was called for. Blame Campo, not TN.

And it still doesn't excuse the brain cramp Sensabaugh had. That was his play the entire way.
 

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M'Kevon;3247761 said:
If both corners are not pressing, that is an excellent clue that the D was called for them not to press. I don't get the hate on TN for running the coverage as it was called for. Blame Campo, not TN.

And it still doesn't excuse the brain cramp Sensabaugh had. That was his play the entire way.

Thats the way in CZ though, dont blame the guy who clearly could have done something about it.
 

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People griping about what Newman makes are total morons. He was paid what a TOP CB in the NFL was worth at the time he got his extension. Money talks and BS walks.

The newman haters like randy and ninja are kind of funny in a pathetic way.
 

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burmafrd;3247768 said:
People griping about what Newman makes are total morons. He was paid what a TOP CB in the NFL was worth at the time he got his extension. Money talks and BS walks.

The newman haters like randy and ninja are kind of funny in a pathetic way.

Hey look! We agree on something!
 

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burmafrd;3247768 said:
People griping about what Newman makes are total morons. He was paid what a TOP CB in the NFL was worth at the time he got his extension. Money talks and BS walks.

The newman haters like randy and ninja are kind of funny in a pathetic way.


A total moron is somebody who doesn't look past the next 3 minutes, much less the next 3 years, when making a business decision.

I don't hate Newman, nor begrudge the money he's making. If the NFL agreed to get rid of the salary cap for good, then by all means, keep T-New for as long as he can step on the field and allow him to retire a Cowboy.

However, unlike YOU, I don't have my head up my butt when it comes to players or reality. The fact of the matter is that T-new is getting OLDER, not BETTER. The fact of the matter is that his contract will out perform him, if it's not outperforming him now. The fact of the matter is that we don't know what kind of cap the NFL is going to implement on the next CBA. The fact of the matter is that this capless season MIGHT present a unique opportunity for the Cowboys to reset their payroll where it doesn't hurt them down the road. An opportunity they had in 1993 before the salary cap was implemented the following season (iirc ) for the for the first time, and never took advantage of it. As a result, a loaded franchise eventually lost key players like Ken Norton, Mark Stepnoski, and Kevin Gogan to free agency because they didn't have room under the cap to keep them.

If you bother to read more than a comic book, you'd probably could deduce that going by the way the NFL owners themselves are divided and WHY they're devided, the next cap will probably be alot stricter ( because they sure as heck are not going to give themselves any paycuts and IF they agree to include other source of revenues into the pot, the owners who are against it will demand a stricter cap ). That would " NOT " be good news for the Cowboys IF they keep T-New's contract, or similar cases, around. Also, If you were paying attention around the early part of this century, you'd know why that is bad news as well.
 

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M'Kevon;3247761 said:
If both corners are not pressing, that is an excellent clue that the D was called for them not to press. I don't get the hate on TN for running the coverage as it was called for. Blame Campo, not TN.

No, it isn't. When this first came up after the Chargers game, that was the argument that was used to excuse Newman. However, going back to even the middle 90's, when the Cowboys used Cover 2 as their base D with Campo as the coordinator, that defense didn't mean that both CBs had to press. It was adapted to, essentially, protect the other CB playing opposite of Deion, who everybody knew the ball wasn't going to be thrown to and didn't need any help from the safeties. Deion was going to do his thing ( as he's often said on TV ) and the rest of the defensive backfield was going to do another.

That was not a coincidence that Tony Dungy, who made his coaching career using that defense, and Troy Aikman, who was the starting QB for the Cowboys during that time, came up with the same, exact criticism on two incredibly similar plays in 2 different games. Neither of them are going to call out players unless they have a good reason to.

And it still doesn't excuse the brain cramp Sensabaugh had. That was his play the entire way.

I completely agree with this on the Vikings play. It was a poor, poor, poor technique from him not to turn around and look for the ball. My only guess is that he lost the ball and gave up on it midway through the play and didn't want to cause a pass interference. But that still does not excuse him losing the ball to begin with.

Still, had Newman " checked " Rice, Sensanbaugh would have had more time and might have located the ball or the ball would have been a long incompletion.
 

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Terence is on lunch break right now and said that he played the scheme exactly the way it was called for him to do. He was not suppose to redirect the receiver. He said it was not cover 2 but a form of cover 2. He also said that Jenkins is next in line as an alternate if Winfield doesn't play.
 

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Doomsday101;3246475 said:
Unlike some I like Newman but I do not think he deserves to be named to the Pro Bowl. If a Dallas CB is to be added his name is Mike Jenkins.

What this guy said ^^^
 
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