T.O. says Jerry 'blindsided' him - 3/28/09

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Hostile;2707843 said:
I'd wager that 99.9% of us never knew Adolf Hitler, Charles Manson, Osama Bin Laden, Jeffrey Dahmer, Ted Bundy, Richard Ramirez, John Wayne Gacy, or Ed Gein as a person either.

Damn the media for teaching us that they were dangerous. Damn them, damn them, damn them.

The point isn't simply about the media's power. Just like any other medium where information is multicast, like the television or the internet, a medium can be used for good, and it can be used for evil. Also, TO's situation isn't even remotely even comparable to the likes of Manson, Bin Laden, Dahmer, or whoever. This reminds me of the infamous internet "argument" of bringing up the ***** or Hitler in an argument, i.e. Godwin's law, and then saying I rest my case, as if that solves or is evidence of anything. Most of the accusations against TO, at least in Dallas, have come from a sensationalized media based on the use of unsubstantiated anonymous sources. I'm disappointed that you even sought to make such a ludicrous comparison.
 

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SultanOfSix;2707961 said:
The point isn't simply about the media's power. Just like any other medium where information is multicast, like the television or the internet, a medium can be used for good, and it can be used for evil. Also, TO's situation isn't even remotely even comparable to the likes of Manson, Bin Laden, Dahmer, or whoever. This reminds me of the infamous internet "argument" of bringing up the ***** or Hitler in an argument, i.e. Godwin's law, and then saying I rest my case, as if that solves or is evidence of anything. Most of the accusations against TO, at least in Dallas, have come from a sensationalized media based on the use of unsubstantiated anonymous sources. I'm disappointed that you even sought to make such a ludicrous comparison.
I was answering something ludicrous with something ludicrous.

I bet 100% of the people who decided to cut him from the Cowboys know him personally.
 

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T.O is just talking because he sees where he once WAS. (W/Dallas, The spotlight) now hes in Buffalo. I supported him when he was a Cowboy. But Now I'll just go on and say, I DONT CARE CAUSE YOU AINT A COWBOY ANYMORE.
 

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Hostile;2707964 said:
I was answering something ludicrous with something ludicrous.

I bet 100% of the people who decided to cut him from the Cowboys know him personally.

I'm sure they do. That still doesn't give the media the right to substantiate things with "anonymous" sources and demonize a man as a team wrecker. There is simply no way a single individual can polarize a team.

Really, what is so wrong with what TO said? Is it because of what he said, or is it because of who said it that makes it so wrong? If what he says is true, that Jerry told him he was safe, and then he was cut all of a sudden out of the blue which he and many in the organization among the players say he was, is that not the definition of being "blind sided"?
 

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SultanOfSix;2707969 said:
I'm sure they do. That still doesn't give the media the right to substantiate things with "anonymous" sources and demonize a man as a team wrecker. There is simply no way a single individual can polarize a team.

Really, what is so wrong with what TO said? Is it because of what he said, or is it because of who said it that makes it so wrong? If what he says is true, that Jerry told him he was safe, and then he was cut all of a sudden out of the blue which he and many in the organization among the players say he was, is that not the definition of being "blind sided"?
Baloney.
 

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Alexander;2707060 said:
Well, this is a bit sad. Owens is now reduced to getting his views voiced by Canadian news outlets. He really is in football Siberia.

in all fairness, that paper is based out of Toronto where the bills play at least one home game this year
 

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Don't any of you TO-supporters ever catch yourselves wondering what the hell you're doing giving a rip about what he says or does? Be honest.

Even if you're able to convince yourselves that he's been persecuted in every city he's played in for little or no reason, don't you just wonder at some point why you care so much about a 35 year old ego-maniac who's never had an unspoken thought in his life?
 

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poor, poor TO............always a victom.
 

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YoMick;2707954 said:
I dont who is the bigger joke as a coach. Wade or Jerry Manuel.

Sadly, it's a tie.

:lmao:

Do I not taking a beating all year round or what with the Mets and Cowboys.

Both have poor coaching and they collapse at the end of the season while everyone out there says the teams are very talented.

Drives a man nuts.
 

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dcfanatic;2708045 said:
Sadly, it's a tie.

:lmao:

Manuel gets a break. Wade wins.
BUT he should have never been made manager after his little trial. Big mistake.




dcfanatic;2708045 said:
Do I not taking a beating all year round or what with the Mets and Cowboys.

Both have poor coaching and they collapse at the end of the season while everyone out there says the teams are very talented.

Drives a man nuts.


Yeah I hear ya. But dont ever post something we have in common EVER again. :lmao::lmao::lmao:
 

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Royal Laegotti;2707537 said:
For some reason alot of people love a individual who tramples on authority and any kind of organizational structure.

Yep, there is that segment. And a lot of people also cant bring themselves to admit the media were right about a guy after theyve been playing the media conspiracy card for post after post. The tinfoil hat doesnt come off easily.
 

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SultanOfSix;2707969 said:
I'm sure they do. That still doesn't give the media the right to substantiate things with "anonymous" sources and demonize a man as a team wrecker.
There is simply no way a single individual can polarize a team.

The Cowboys last year were not a team but a collection of egocentric individuals concerned only with their own stats and highly prone to being polarized. TO was in his element, right where Jerry put him and gave him a huge amount of money and basically told him he could do anything he wanted and not to worry about anything. No wonder last year turned brown.

TO took Jerry's foolishly offerred big wad of cash and as soon as Jerry fired him he went to Buffalo and got yet another big wad of cash from another fool. Apparently it doesn't take much brains to own an NFL team, just takes some to run one.

Thank God and American Airlines, he's gone. Happiness is watching TO leave on a one-way trip.

This year is already looking a lot better, to me anyway.
 

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5Stars;2707518 said:
Again, like I posted the other day, it's a phenomenon how somebody can get so attached to a player like TO!

Even when Emmitt got released I never read the outrage over that like those guys do with TO! And Emmitt was a Cowboy from the beginning, with rings to prove his worth! :confused:

Absoutely amazing...

There wasnt this much emotional outcry over the Cowboys cutting Emmitt, Jay Novacek, Nate Newton, Tony Tolbert combined. If he has this kind of mesmorizing effect on his worshipers on an anonymous internet messageboard, who have never met the man, think of the effect he must have in a lockerroom on the people he interacts with daily. Too bad he is a certifiable nutcase and cant use his charisma for good.

Then again, check this ..... he might not be as appealing if he couldnt play the martyr who has been brought down by 'the establishment' because he wouldnt play by 'their rules', can you dig it man?
 

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CanadianCowboysFan;2708002 said:
in all fairness, that paper is based out of Toronto where the bills play at least one home game this year

In Bills related news...
Bills fans are getting their first taste of TO dissing them. He's talking more to the Toronto press than the Buffalo press and allegedly he is looking for a home in the Toronto area instead of Buffalo/Orchard Park.
 
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Cowboys2008;2707388 said:
I sure hope we know what we're talking about.. We may be in search for a new QB if we don't.

One thing we seem to be forgetting, TO has been here for every step of Romo's short career. In fact, a intricate part in even getting him on the field. Perhaps even the dagger that left Drew Henson lying dead on the sideline bench for good and not our current QB in need of replacement.

Aside from that all though, there has been one other constant going on beneath our open eyes.. Tony Romo. His lackluster attitude and his golden eye for the starlight twinkles he seems to always have to date and let interfere with his game.

He can't even keep them at home, he has to bring them to games and propel them right into the spotlight. Doesn't matter if he's been dating them for a year or a day.

Then when he loses it's almost like he's got this "aw shux" attitude, which I bet plays great with the ladies "feeling his pain" after the game.

Reality really is, TO could have been a very convenient finger to point for Romo to divert the attention off of what happen to him.

Then let's not overlook that injury to his finger, which seemed to trigger the start of our problems, not mentally on the field with Romo but physically on the field. Also something I don't think one person can say for certain whether or not he's fully recovered from, if he ever will be.

Personally, I think Dallas went about this the wrong way. Fact is, the guy produced for us. And he still produced up to the point of being forced out. Which has many fans still crying out his name and could be something we continue to hear this whole next season, especially if things go wrong for us. IMO the best remedy would have been to cause a real "stink" around the whole matter. I mean it's not like drama wasn't already circulating the entire previous season as it was. At least this would have given it meaning and closed out any doubts fans may have about the former #81 wearing the Star

But that's not what happen. Instead, another "rich boy" who just always has to see his name in the paper for some reason, pulled a crybaby with daddy and got what he wanted instead. Of course though, using the help of Garrett and Romo, two individuals seriously on the hot seat, themselves, after last year's performances.

I'm just saying I hope we didn't listen to the wrong people.

Very insightful post.... Romo will be the scapegoat in three years after Cowboys fans realize that he can't lead this team over the hump.
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;2708119 said:
Very insightful post.... Romo will be the scapegoat in three years after Cowboys fans realize that he can't lead this team over the hump.

Because he's dating Jessica Simpson right?

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
 

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Hostile;2707993 said:

Not much of a "team" then, eh?

Idgit;2708011 said:
Don't any of you TO-supporters ever catch yourselves wondering what the hell you're doing giving a rip about what he says or does? Be honest.

Don't any of the anti-TO crowd ever catch themselves wondering why they hate the guy, and vociferously mock or antagonize him? It makes perfect sense to intently defend someone that you are a fan of. This is a natural reaction that may or may not cloud your objectivity. I think the question that needs to be answered is what makes someone hate an individual so much whom they have never met or dealt with on an individual basis that they persistently attack his character?

I wouldn't say I'm so much of a TO supporter, as much as I a feel a sense of inherent injustice in persistently antagonizing the man via the media's use of anonymous sources.
 

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SultanOfSix;2708143 said:
Not much of a "team" then, eh?



Don't any of the anti-TO crowd ever catch themselves wondering why they hate the guy, and vociferously mock or antagonize him? It makes perfect sense to intently defend someone that you are a fan of. This is a natural reaction that may or may not cloud your objectivity. I think the question that needs to be answered is what makes someone hate an individual so much whom they have never met or dealt with on an individual basis that they persistently attack his character?

I wouldn't say I'm so much of a TO supporter, as much as I a feel a sense of inherent injustice in persistently antagonizing the man via the media's use of anonymous sources.

It's utterly amazing.

You. Just. Don't. Get. It.

The media is what it is. And really that comes down to opinion.

The FACT of the matter is, this is a guy, who was an immensely talented player that got released from three - not one, but three - different teams while he could still play.

Talk conspiracy all you want. But even the dumbest owners of all time will not release a very very good player WITH NOTHING IN RETURN based on media opinion. Unless of course, the guy was criminally charged or something outlandish.

You speak of defending someone you like -- as another poster said, it's simply about truth. Defend all you want, but to not acknowledge the fact that this guy was cut for non-performance, non-criminal issues and to chalk it up to the media is complete and utter fantasy, not truth.

Yeah, billionaire Jerry Jones is going to release a talented player based on "anonymous sources" in the media. Not a chance. This is the guy who signed Pacman for crying out loud after every credible and verifiable news source said he was nuts to do so. Man, he really bows down to media pressure.

Inherent injustice? Can any TO supporter just once admit the guy played a role in what happens to him? Just a little bit? Because the way I read it here, he is the most victimized, mischaracterized, person ever to wear an NFL uniform.
 
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